MC Prussian Posted 4 July 2018 Posted 4 July 2018 Yohan Cabaye leaves Crystal Palace for Al-Nasr in the UAR. Meanwhile, Lee Grant gets a goalkeeper's dream move and goes Manchester United.
CosbehFox Posted 5 July 2018 Posted 5 July 2018 Televised fixtures supposed to be announced tomorrow but will be surprised if they do them on time.
Nickfosse Posted 5 July 2018 Posted 5 July 2018 12 minutes ago, The Bear said: What a deterrent!! People in glass houses mate. We can’t complain after our antics, and you’re methods last year weren’t exactly squeaky clean were they? Congrats on the promotion though. I work the odd day in Wolves and it’s good to see them buzzing with the promotion and the great season you had.
The Bear Posted 5 July 2018 Posted 5 July 2018 You at least tried to get round it by other means. Bournemouth just said ahh **** it, if we go up it doesn't matter. Which essentially is what the message of that fine is. We did nothing wrong last season. We wouldn't have failed FFP even if we didn't go up. We'd have had to reign in our spending this season, and maybe one of our players would have left to help balance the books. We definitely gambled, but not to the point of overstepping the rules. At least we have Villa as a cautionary tale to other clubs at the minute I guess. That's more down to their owner/manager combo than anything though.
Nickfosse Posted 5 July 2018 Posted 5 July 2018 2 minutes ago, The Bear said: You at least tried to get round it by other means. Bournemouth just said ahh **** it, if we go up it doesn't matter. Which essentially is what the message of that fine is. We did nothing wrong last season. We wouldn't have failed FFP even if we didn't go up. We'd have had to reign in our spending this season, and maybe one of our players would have left to help balance the books. We definitely gambled, but not to the point of overstepping the rules. At least we have Villa as a cautionary tale to other clubs at the minute I guess. That's more down to their owner/manager combo than anything though. I wasn’t referring to your finances. A lot of clubs felt that your agent getting his players on loan was stretching the rules to the limit, if not overstepping them. Again, nothing we can can crow about with OH Leuven and our work there.
The Bear Posted 5 July 2018 Posted 5 July 2018 But again, all of that was cleared by the EFL. Twice. The PL have no problem with it either judging by us getting our official league status at the annual PL meeting. Other Championship clubs complaining was just them being bitter that our owners were cleverer and had a better plan than them. Look at Forest this season trying exactly the same.
Nickfosse Posted 5 July 2018 Posted 5 July 2018 4 minutes ago, The Bear said: But again, all of that was cleared by the EFL. Twice. The PL have no problem with it either judging by us getting our official league status at the annual PL meeting. Other Championship clubs complaining was just them being bitter that our owners were cleverer and had a better plan than them. Look at Forest this season trying exactly the same. Yeah I know. All fair points. I guess what I was trying to say from the outset is that we’ve all been good at slipping off hooks and finding loopholes etc. ?
Donut Posted 5 July 2018 Posted 5 July 2018 This is nothing against "the bear" as I read his posts with interest But why do fans of other clubs, like that Burnley fan that comes on here, choose our forum to regularly post in? Do they have accounts with all the teams in the Premier League and regularly post on all of them??
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 5 July 2018 Posted 5 July 2018 8 minutes ago, Donut said: This is nothing against "the bear" as I read his posts with interest But why do fans of other clubs, like that Burnley fan that comes on here, choose our forum to regularly post in? Do they have accounts with all the teams in the Premier League and regularly post on all of them?? I think they secretly wish they were Leicester fans.
sylofox Posted 5 July 2018 Author Posted 5 July 2018 15 minutes ago, Donut said: This is nothing against "the bear" as I read his posts with interest But why do fans of other clubs, like that Burnley fan that comes on here, choose our forum to regularly post in? Do they have accounts with all the teams in the Premier League and regularly post on all of them?? They show more respect to our club than some of the tossers that come on here claiming to be fans.
Ric Flair Posted 5 July 2018 Posted 5 July 2018 33 minutes ago, The Bear said: But again, all of that was cleared by the EFL. Twice. The PL have no problem with it either judging by us getting our official league status at the annual PL meeting. Other Championship clubs complaining was just them being bitter that our owners were cleverer and had a better plan than them. Look at Forest this season trying exactly the same. You boys seem confident you've not breached FFP but with little knowledge it surprises me where the money to buy Costa and Neves for best part of £25m has come from when your parachute payments ran out. Did you sell some players I've forgotten about?
Donut Posted 5 July 2018 Posted 5 July 2018 5 minutes ago, sylofox said: They show more respect to our club than some of the tossers that come on here claiming to be fans. Absolutely
The Bear Posted 5 July 2018 Posted 5 July 2018 It's a fair question. I post on here because I like talking with other fans and seeing different opinions and perspectives to my own club and theirs as well. And I'm sure other Leicester fans who wouldn't ever go on a Wolves board find out stuff about us they normally wouldn't. If they're not interested I'm sure they'll skip past it. And I only talk about us in this thread anyway. The other non-football parts of the site is just because I'm usually bored! It's just another message board ultimately. As long as you're not here to deliberately provoke arguments then it should all be dandy no matter who you support.
Jimothy Posted 5 July 2018 Posted 5 July 2018 5 minutes ago, The Bear said: It's a fair question. I post on here because I like talking with other fans and seeing different opinions and perspectives to my own club and theirs as well. And I'm sure other Leicester fans who wouldn't ever go on a Wolves board find out stuff about us they normally wouldn't. If they're not interested I'm sure they'll skip past it. And I only talk about us in this thread anyway. The other non-football parts of the site is just because I'm usually bored! It's just another message board ultimately. As long as you're not here to deliberately provoke arguments then it should all be dandy no matter who you support. Also, admit it, it's a bloody good forum
The Bear Posted 5 July 2018 Posted 5 July 2018 12 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: You boys seem confident you've not breached FFP but with little knowledge it surprises me where the money to buy Costa and Neves for best part of £25m has come from when your parachute payments ran out. Did you sell some players I've forgotten about? Without wanting to go over it all again, after the 15/16 season we had operated at a £7m profit thanks to our previous owners. That gave our new owners three seasons of spending before reaching the £39m loss allowed. Costa (£13m) + Neves (£15.8m) were purchased in separate seasons for accounting purposes (Costa Jan '17, Neves Jul '17). Several players last season were on loan with an option to buy (Boly, Jota, Afobe, N'Diaye). This also helps with the spending. The first three have since been made permanent for £35m (this season's accounts though) and in Afobe's case sold on for a couple of £m profit. We sold players last season for more than we thought we'd get too. Reading paid us £3m for Bodvarsson!
The Bear Posted 5 July 2018 Posted 5 July 2018 1 minute ago, Facecloth said: Also, admit it, it's a bloody good forum I wouldn't still be here if it wasnt!
Ric Flair Posted 5 July 2018 Posted 5 July 2018 1 hour ago, The Bear said: Without wanting to go over it all again, after the 15/16 season we had operated at a £7m profit thanks to our previous owners. That gave our new owners three seasons of spending before reaching the £39m loss allowed. Costa (£13m) + Neves (£15.8m) were purchased in separate seasons for accounting purposes (Costa Jan '17, Neves Jul '17). Several players last season were on loan with an option to buy (Boly, Jota, Afobe, N'Diaye). This also helps with the spending. The first three have since been made permanent for £35m (this season's accounts though) and in Afobe's case sold on for a couple of £m profit. We sold players last season for more than we thought we'd get too. Reading paid us £3m for Bodvarsson! Fair enough, I was just surprised because we got done for FFP having spent only £500,000 in transfers for the whole of 2013/14 and not that much in the year before, but it just shows the massive gamble we must have taken when we appointed Sven and blew a shit load. Pearson came back and was cutting costs left, right and centre.
Ted Maul Posted 5 July 2018 Posted 5 July 2018 14 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Fair enough, I was just surprised because we got done for FFP having spent only £500,000 in transfers for the whole of 2013/14 and not that much in the year before, but it just shows the massive gamble we must have taken when we appointed Sven and blew a shit load. Pearson came back and was cutting costs left, right and centre. What a job Nige did... managed to cut costs whilst putting together a side who would go onto absolutely smash the top two tiers.
Finnegan Posted 5 July 2018 Posted 5 July 2018 2 hours ago, The Bear said: But again, all of that was cleared by the EFL. Twice. The PL have no problem with it either judging by us getting our official league status at the annual PL meeting. Other Championship clubs complaining was just them being bitter that our owners were cleverer and had a better plan than them. Look at Forest this season trying exactly the same. I think people know that what you did was within the rules, when we got promoted after going in to administration we broke no rules, when Watford went up after abusing their parent / feeder clubs they broke no rules. The question was less the legality and more the ethics of it. The rules were changed after we went up, the fa should take a look at the growing influence of agents and really be asking themselves some difficult questions.
ealingfox Posted 5 July 2018 Posted 5 July 2018 37 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Fair enough, I was just surprised because we got done for FFP having spent only £500,000 in transfers for the whole of 2013/14 and not that much in the year before, but it just shows the massive gamble we must have taken when we appointed Sven and blew a shit load. Pearson came back and was cutting costs left, right and centre. FFP rules were different before we went up and were far stricter. Piece of piss to get around them now.
Corky Posted 5 July 2018 Posted 5 July 2018 What deterrent can you give, though? Borunemouth, or most clubs now, will comfortably pay any fine off. You'd have to start looking into points deductions, stopping transfers and the like to really hit a club that has been promoted and have the resources to cope with fines.
PhillippaT Posted 5 July 2018 Posted 5 July 2018 Note: the fantasy football section is up for the new season on the premier league site. I've never done this before! Are we having a fantasy football section? (I dunno what I'm doing )
The Bear Posted 5 July 2018 Posted 5 July 2018 Looks like we're trying to sign Zinchenko from Man City. £12m rising to £16m agreed. Will likely play next to Neves in CM (he's been used at LB by Pep because of injuries).
Xen Posted 6 July 2018 Posted 6 July 2018 12 hours ago, PhillippaT said: Note: the fantasy football section is up for the new season on the premier league site. I've never done this before! Are we having a fantasy football section? (I dunno what I'm doing ) There'll probably be a league set up in the General Football subforum in the next few weeks. Think @StanSP usually sets it up.
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