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MC Prussian

Mendy injured again

By MC Prussian, in Leicester City Forum

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Lesta2014

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4 hours ago, themightyfin said:

Injury has not been assessed yet so could even be back for the weekend. He's not been ruled out of anything. 

 

Is he in Puel plans do you know? Personally would like to see more of him.

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UniFox21

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Feel it's harsh calling the lad a walking sick note; prior to coming to us he'd played 36, 36 and 38 games the 3 years before he joined. Hugely unfortunate first year at Leicester, hope this is a minor knock and he gets chances

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murphy

murphy

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2 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

Really,  and how would he be responsible? His stats were superb, no doubt scouts had watched him, he'd even played under Ranieri. Rudkin just does the deals and at the time he seemed a good on. No real history of being injury prone he suffers a bad one in his second game for us, who knows how good he could have been poor chap it's just one of those things. So ... how exactly is Rudin responsible or are you just jumping on a popularist band wagon.

Not true, his stats were ordinary.  Another signing that made no more sense at the time than it does now.

 

If he's injured for the rest of the window, we're stuck with him for another year.

Babylon

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10 hours ago, lgfualol said:

Wouldnt Ulloa be off the wage bill if we never gave him that contract. Shows the direction Shakespeare was taking us. 4 years for James and 2 for Ulloa. Fackin ell.

 

 

 

10 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Be intrigued to know if this was Shakespeare's doing or the DOF? Blurred lines with many manager and DOF roles these days, either way was abysmal decision making.

It's been repeated numerous times, but I think the reasoning was the CS was trying to take a leaf out of NP's book and look after his players, be seen to be looking after players and having their backs. Ulloa from what he said had been screwed over by Ranieri by not being sold, not being played and not getting a new contract. James by all accounts is great around the club, just like King.

 

I have no issue with it personally, except perhaps the length of the James contract. It looked a managers decision in an attempt to keep the Pearson spirit going by following his template. Which worked, we kept popular players like Was around long after his sell by date.

 

Their two wages aren't going to be causing major issues.

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Fox92

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Two players in midfield with constant injuries. Both wages could / should be used on a more fit player.

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volpeazzurro

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56 minutes ago, murphy said:

Not true, his stats were ordinary.  Another signing that made no more sense at the time than it does now.

 

If he's injured for the rest of the window, we're stuck with him for another year.

As a promising former French youth international I don't feel that the record below is mediocre or ordinary. Looking at the below and his age 'at the time', to me, on the face of it, he would appear to be a sound investment that unluckily for one reason or another as yet, does not appear to have worked out,  a main one possibly being his initial bad injury and any susequent after effects both physically and confidence wise. If you personally can't see why he would have appeared to be a reasonable prospect at the time then perhaps is just as well your not buying our players. Though I would suggest it's more to do with the fact you know very little about his previous career and are just jumping on another popularist band wagon. See below for your information :

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Mendy was linked to teams such as Manchester United and Arsenal.[7] Despite calling Manchester United his "dream club", Mendy rejected the move to the English side because he wanted to stay in France.[8] After some positive talks with Nice's manager, Claude Puel, Mendy decided to join OGC Niceon a free transfer.[9]

Mendy made his debut on 17 August 2013, in a 2–1 win against Stade Rennais.[10] After club captain Didier Digard left for Real Betison a free transfer at the end of 2014–15 season,[11] and new captain Mathieu Bodmerwas injured, Mendy was named captain.[12]

Mendy made 110 appearances in three seasons for Nice and helped them to a fourth-place finish in Ligue 1 in 2015–16.[13] He had the second highest number of passes behind Thiago Motta (2950), the most passes per game (78), and a passing accuracy of (92%), best of any player not a member of Paris Saint-Germain.[14]

murphy

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13 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

As a promising former French youth international I don't feel that the record below is mediocre or ordinary. Looking at the below and his age 'at the time', to me, on the face of it, he would appear to be a sound investment that unluckily for one reason or another as yet, does not appear to have worked out,  a main one possibly being his initial bad injury and any susequent after effects both physically and confidence wise. If you personally can't see why he would have appeared to be a reasonable prospect at the time then perhaps is just as well your not buying our players. Though I would suggest it's more to do with the fact you know very little about his previous career and are just jumping on another popularist band wagon. See below for your information :

 

NiceEdit

Mendy was linked to teams such as Manchester United and Arsenal.[7] Despite calling Manchester United his "dream club", Mendy rejected the move to the English side because he wanted to stay in France.[8] After some positive talks with Nice's manager, Claude Puel, Mendy decided to join OGC Niceon a free transfer.[9]

Mendy made his debut on 17 August 2013, in a 2–1 win against Stade Rennais.[10] After club captain Didier Digard left for Real Betison a free transfer at the end of 2014–15 season,[11] and new captain Mathieu Bodmerwas injured, Mendy was named captain.[12]

Mendy made 110 appearances in three seasons for Nice and helped them to a fourth-place finish in Ligue 1 in 2015–16.[13] He had the second highest number of passes behind Thiago Motta (2950), the most passes per game (78), and a passing accuracy of (92%), best of any player not a member of Paris Saint-Germain.[14]

Ok, well you said his stats were superb.

 

Let's leave behind the fantasy that he turned down Man Utd and look at those stats, pre LCFC.  You highlight passing, averaging 41 successful per game, which is pretty good, compared to say Matty James 33, however chances created at 0.5 per game compared to James 1.7 suggests a rather unambitious range. 

 

Considering we had just lost Kante, if we look at tackles won per game NM averaged 1.39, again, less than Matty James 1.76 and less than Andy King 2.46.

 

Perhaps when I called his stats ordinary I was a little harsh but definitely not 'superb' as you suggest compared to the midfielders we already had.

volpeazzurro

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2 hours ago, murphy said:

Ok, well you said his stats were superb.

 

Let's leave behind the fantasy that he turned down Man Utd and look at those stats, pre LCFC.  You highlight passing, averaging 41 successful per game, which is pretty good, compared to say Matty James 33, however chances created at 0.5 per game compared to James 1.7 suggests a rather unambitious range. 

 

Considering we had just lost Kante, if we look at tackles won per game NM averaged 1.39, again, less than Matty James 1.76 and less than Andy King 2.46.

 

Perhaps when I called his stats ordinary I was a little harsh but definitely not 'superb' as you suggest compared to the midfielders we already had.

I think his stats in France for his age when compared to someone like Motta are superb. Are you seriously trying to compare his stats to King and James? Two experienced Premiership older players compared to a young, new to the Premiership foreign player who had barely little  more than a debut to be judged upon? The point your dodging is that given all the above facts, he had all the hallmarks at that time of a good buy and it would make complete sense in any reasonable eye contrary to your original assertion that it made no sense at all at the time. It probably wouldnt have made sense to you because you had never gone and scouted him over a period of time or studied him like the club did. If Ranieri and Puel have worked with him and rated him in the past, it would suggest that there was a player in  there somewhere. Would an unknown Marhez or to many people a little known Kante have made sense at the time? A lot less money and risk admitedly, but sometimes you have to pay more for what on paper appears to be less of a risk. Whoever it was who recommended his signing I suggest noted his stats, watched him play and deduced from that, that at his his age had good potential. The truth is we still don't know and probably never will, but I think it's unfair of people to almost castigate him as an individual  due to an unfortunate injury or the club for even buying him in the first place. We can be be a very unforgiving lot at times, me included, when not in possession of all the facts.

murphy

murphy

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26 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

I think his stats in France for his age when compared to someone like Motta are superb. Are you seriously trying to compare his stats to King and James? Two experienced Premiership older players compared to a young, new to the Premiership foreign player who had barely little  more than a debut to be judged upon?

He was 24 with nearly 200 senior appearances under his belt.  Hardly a kid. 

 

Yes, I think that it is wise to compare him to what we already had who are hardly world beaters themselves.  The stats quoted are for Mendy's time in France, a lesser league, not his 3 or 4 games for us. 

 

26 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

The point your dodging is that given all the above facts, he had all the hallmarks at that time of a good buy and it would make complete sense in any reasonable eye contrary to your original assertion that it made no sense at all at the time. It probably wouldnt have made sense to you because you had never gone and scouted him over a period of time or studied him like the club did. If Ranieri and Puel have worked with him and rated him in the past, it would suggest that there was a player in  there somewhere. 

Not dodging anything.  I don't think NM, for a club record fee was good business especially as reigning PL champions, but you can disagree.  His recent loan back to France was hardly a success. As for the scouting system at the club, you seem to have a lot of faith in it considering the long list of expensive flops we have signed that were presumably also scouted.

 

I think he was signed from Ranieri's recommendation, but let's remember that he played under Ranieri in the French second tier.

26 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

Would an unknown Marhez or to many people a little known Kante have made sense at the time? A lot less money and risk admitedly, but sometimes you have to pay more for what on paper appears to be less of a risk. Whoever it was who recommended his signing I suggest noted his stats, watched him play and deduced from that, that at his his age had good potential. The truth is we still don't know and probably never will, but I think it's unfair of people to almost castigate him as an individual  due to an unfortunate injury or the club for even buying him in the first place. We can be be a very unforgiving lot at times, me included, when not in possession of all the facts.

Mahrez was a 400k punt and N'Golo, now he really did have superb stats.  Both made much more sense.

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brucey

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Evans also injured and will also miss the rest of preseason according to the Merc.

 

Benny/Morgan against Man U then... Benny to break a few Utd players legs and make Jose moan even more

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MC Prussian

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7 hours ago, UniFox21 said:

Feel it's harsh calling the lad a walking sick note; prior to coming to us he'd played 36, 36 and 38 games the 3 years before he joined. Hugely unfortunate first year at Leicester, hope this is a minor knock and he gets chances

Of course, it's harsh. Injured early on into the season before last, out on the sidelines for too long, then a loan to Nice that was meant to bring him back to full fitness. Ends up with 14 league matches, 11 of them as a starter, but usually on the losing side. Now injured again after three pre-season matches.

 

Hope he recovers soon and fully, but boy, is the lad unlucky and fragile at the same time.

gurru991

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7 hours ago, Babylon said:

 

It's been repeated numerous times, but I think the reasoning was the CS was trying to take a leaf out of NP's book and look after his players, be seen to be looking after players and having their backs. Ulloa from what he said had been screwed over by Ranieri by not being sold, not being played and not getting a new contract. James by all accounts is great around the club, just like King.

 

I have no issue with it personally, except perhaps the length of the James contract. It looked a managers decision in an attempt to keep the Pearson spirit going by following his template. Which worked, we kept popular players like Was around long after his sell by date.

 

Their two wages aren't going to be causing major issues.

Well Said 

Excellent post. It's nice to read a calm cool opinion on a topic as opposed to the hate filled & inane posts we've seen lately.

Max Wall

Max Wall

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1 minute ago, Suzie the Fox said:

Not seen anything on what the actual injury is?

 

Google search 'Mendy injury lcfc' for recent information, only shows this thread :D 

It's his ankle I think but no confirmation from an official source as to the seriousness of it that I've seen yet.

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