les-tah Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 2 minutes ago, lcfcsnow said: With 15 caps for Turkey wouldn't he be more likely to get a permit than Benkovic who doesn't have any for Croatia? 1 minute ago, ARM1968 said: Work permit really should be a formality with this guy, but you never know until it’s done. I’m sure it’ll be fine. will be fine.. but yeah there is no freedom of movement between turkey and the EU.
peach0000 Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 4 minutes ago, Gerard said: Croatia is in the EU so he won't need a work permit. 6 minutes ago, Tuna said: Doesn't need one as Croatia are in the EU. Croatia don't have free access to the labour market until 2020 so he more than likely would have needed one.
Babylon Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 Work permits aren't just based on caps, they are also now based on cost of the player, wages, playing in european competitions... see below. You only need 4 points. " Criteria Points The transfer fee paid for the player is above the 75th percentile of qualifying transfers. 3 The transfer fee paid for the player is between the 50th and 75th percentile of qualifying transfers. 2 The player’s wages are above the 75th percentile of qualifying wages. 3 The player’s wages are between the 50th and 75th percentile of qualifying wages. 2 The player’s current club is in a top league and the player has played in at least 30% of available minutes. 1 The player’s current club has played in the group stages or onwards of a continental competition within the last 12 months and the player has played in at least 30% of the available minutes. "
Jaspa Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 Mad if we sign him now on top of Benkovic, surely would mean one of the CBs is off. Wes Jonny Maguire Benk Benny & Soyunku? Only need 2 for each position. Unless it's a 3-2-3-2 formation it doesn't make any sense
Finnegan Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 Just now, SpazticChicken said: Mad if we sign him now on top of Benkovic, surely would mean one of the CBs is off. Wes Jonny Maguire Benk Benny & Soyunku? Only need 2 for each position. Unless it's a 3-2-3-2 formation it doesn't make any sense Wes is going to be a cheerleader at best this season, kept in the squad for his leadership, Benalouane will be back in the u23s quick sharp. He's awful. It gives us four players to cover two positions with two of them being kids with plenty of time to develop. Not really all that weird a situation tbf. 4
Guest Kopfkino Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 6 minutes ago, peach0000 said: Croatia don't have free access to the labour market until 2020 so he more than likely would have needed one. Nah all restrictions on Croatians were lifted in June
UniFox21 Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 2 minutes ago, SpazticChicken said: Mad if we sign him now on top of Benkovic, surely would mean one of the CBs is off. Wes Jonny Maguire Benk Benny & Soyunku? Only need 2 for each position. Unless it's a 3-2-3-2 formation it doesn't make any sense These guys aren't fully ready for the prem and benny, wes and Fuchs are all out of contract next summer.
Jimbo Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 2 minutes ago, SpazticChicken said: Mad if we sign him now on top of Benkovic, surely would mean one of the CBs is off. Wes Jonny Maguire Benk Benny & Soyunku? Only need 2 for each position. Unless it's a 3-2-3-2 formation it doesn't make any sense Only 3 of those could realistically be classed as first teamers though, Harry, Evans and Soyuncu. Benkovic will probably get game time but in the cups etc benny should be no where near the first team and I think we'll see Wes being phased out
ARM1968 Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 Could end up with one of the leagues best CB pairings out of that lot, and I’m not talking Morgan and Benny.
Lesterlad Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 4 minutes ago, SpazticChicken said: Mad if we sign him now on top of Benkovic, surely would mean one of the CBs is off. Wes Jonny Maguire Benk Benny & Soyunku? Only need 2 for each position. Unless it's a 3-2-3-2 formation it doesn't make any sense You name 6 played do we really want to be playing Benny and Morgan if Maguire and Evans get injured
MGLCFC Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 Think Wes will play first game as we are short of central defenders, but will be loaned out to somewhere like Forest or Stoke at the end of the month.
Grey Fox Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 1 minute ago, ARM1968 said: Could end up with one of the leagues best CB pairings out of that lot, and I’m not talking Morgan and Benny. Morgan and Benkovic?
Haywood_6 Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 1 minute ago, Jimbo said: Only 3 of those could realistically be classed as first teamers though, Harry, Evans and Soyuncu. Benkovic will probably get game time but in the cups etc benny should be no where near the first team and I think we'll see Wes being phased out Wes will be 35 in January... (Got the same birthday as me so that's how i know) Been a great servant but this is the beginning of the end for him.
Jaspa Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 3 minutes ago, Finnegan said: Wes is going to be a cheerleader at best this season, kept in the squad for his leadership, Benalouane will be back in the u23s quick sharp. He's awful. It gives us four players to cover two positions with two of them being kids with plenty of time to develop. Not really all that weird a situation tbf. Depends how quickly Wes can be phased out, with all due respect. Even then we have Evans & Maguire as starters, I think Benny's only applicable use is training practice but he's still on the payroll. Benkovic is going to be pushing for first team footy and this Turkish lad is a full international, so has to start. So it creates problems of shear volume of players who aren't going to be playing, with no guarantee anyone wants them enough to loan - doesn't make sense. Gotta feeling it was Benky or this lad
Tuna Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 6 minutes ago, MGLCFC said: Think Wes will play first game as we are short of central defenders, but will be loaned out to somewhere like Forest or Stoke at the end of the month. Window ends today.
Bakey Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 Just now, Tuna said: Window ends today. not for loans in the football league
MGLCFC Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 1 minute ago, Tuna said: Window ends today. Loans can be completed up until the end of August in the Championship
Tuna Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 1 minute ago, Bakey said: not for loans in the football league Just now, MGLCFC said: Loans can be completed up until the end of August in the Championship Genuinely didn't know that!
Grey Fox Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 Just now, Bakey said: not for loans in the football league Or loans or signings to other foreign leagues?
Gerard Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 5 minutes ago, MGLCFC said: Think Wes will play first game as we are short of central defenders, but will be loaned out to somewhere like Forest or Stoke at the end of the month. If Maguire stays and Soyunca signs I think that's likely as he'll be 5th choice and if he wants to play this season rather than hang around and see his contract out that's what he'll have to do. I suspect we'll try and loan Benalouane out to Turkey or France and supplement his wage until his contract runs out next season.
Babylon Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 18 minutes ago, Babylon said: Work permits aren't just based on caps, they are also now based on cost of the player, wages, playing in european competitions... see below. You only need 4 points. " Criteria Points The transfer fee paid for the player is above the 75th percentile of qualifying transfers. 3 The transfer fee paid for the player is between the 50th and 75th percentile of qualifying transfers. 2 The player’s wages are above the 75th percentile of qualifying wages. 3 The player’s wages are between the 50th and 75th percentile of qualifying wages. 2 The player’s current club is in a top league and the player has played in at least 30% of available minutes. 1 The player’s current club has played in the group stages or onwards of a continental competition within the last 12 months and the player has played in at least 30% of the available minutes. " @Bakey @ealingfox Sorry about the dodgy copy and paste, but dem da rules!
Wdywd Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 There's also an "exceptional talent" way of getting round those rules too isn't there? Always quite an impressive feat to get a work permit turned down
STUHILL Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 Can see Benny accepting a season long loan to a championship club. We will have to pay most his wages, but no point him sat in the reserves with 0 likelihood of playing, even in the cups.
HighPeakFox Posted 9 August 2018 Posted 9 August 2018 Just now, tsintskaro said: announce Çalhanoğlu Pronounce Çalhanoğlu... 1
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