davieG Posted 18 September 2018 Share Posted 18 September 2018 1 minute ago, Jimmy said: Thin its more the fact Wes hasn't been good enough for over 12 months I get that I just can't see relevance of the PL title which was 5 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 18 September 2018 Share Posted 18 September 2018 7 minutes ago, davieG said: I get that I just can't see relevance of the PL title which was 5 years ago. well he has 3 of them plus a club world cup, think its to emphasize his quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 18 September 2018 Share Posted 18 September 2018 9 minutes ago, Jimmy said: well he has 3 of them plus a club world cup, think its to emphasize his quality Rob Huth has 3 titles as well, not an argument that we should have kept him on though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 18 September 2018 Share Posted 18 September 2018 2 minutes ago, The Doctor said: Rob Huth has 3 titles as well, not an argument that we should have kept him on though. well given he is still injured no, if he was fit I'd have him over Wes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 18 September 2018 Share Posted 18 September 2018 5 hours ago, grobyfox1990 said: Surprised to hear all this 'take a shot' clamour. Scored 12 goals in 6 games! (granted 4 against Fleetwood...) Barring that, scored 8 goals in 5 PL games, the same as 'attacking, vibrant, dynamic, forward-playing' Everton under the lauded genius Marco Silva. Should've had a couple in the first 30 mins against Bournemouth too, the chances were evident. Haven't the amazing Wolves scored less than City too? I.e the team praised weekly for being so attack-minded. They've had similar difficulty of fixtures to City as well. Half the league must've scored less than City! And that's with Vardy having played circa 90 mins all season! 4 of those 8 goals were consolations, 1 was an own goal and 2 of the other 3 were long range shotsso I'd argue we should be shooting from range more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgfualol Posted 18 September 2018 Share Posted 18 September 2018 Just now, Ric Flair said: 4 of those 8 goals were consolations, 1 was an own goal and 2 of the other 3 were long range shotsso I'd argue we should be shooting from range more often. I agree with this. Seems every team I watch take loads of shots from outside the box, even when we struggle to make chances we still dont shoot from far out. Having said that, some of our players are horrific at shooting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 18 September 2018 Share Posted 18 September 2018 1 minute ago, lgfualol said: I agree with this. Seems every team I watch take loads of shots from outside the box, even when we struggle to make chances we still dont shoot from far out. Having said that, some of our players are horrific at shooting. Albrighton and Ndidi from long range is something else, it's like someone's just stuck a minto in some coke when it comes off their boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthosoriginals Posted 18 September 2018 Share Posted 18 September 2018 1 hour ago, Izzy Muzzett said: Embarrassing that this story is on SSN. The players have been spoilt by being flown around everywhere and probably now expect it all the time. So they had to sit on a coach for 5 hours. Didums. Yeh muzzy, imagine having to endure a bus ride to work for about 50 grand or more a week. then you have to wait 45 minutes for your first tea break. id call the union officials in asap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 18 September 2018 Share Posted 18 September 2018 2 hours ago, Corky said: https://www.football365.com/news/top-ten-summer-signings-that-look-a-bit-pointless-fred-fabinho 5) Jonny Evans (Leicester City) We presume that Wes Morgan’s utterly catastrophic 69 minutes against Bournemouth on Saturday will prompt a change at Leicester but it is verging on the ridiculous that Evans was bought by Leicester this summer – along with two other new centre-backs – and yet Claude Puel persisted with 34-year-old Morgan as Harry Maguire’s partner. Why buy a former Premier League title winner, saying “he knows exactly what it takes, he is a winner and a leader”, and then leave him on the bench? Tellingly. Evans’ only Premier League start this season (against Wolves) reaped Leicester’s only clean sheet. Which should immediately destroy any argument that Maguire and Evans are both left-sided centre-halves and so cannot possibly play together. Prime example of seeing a result and not watching the game. Evans was completely done for pace on several occasions and almost played a back-pass too short that could've been intercepted. Just because we kept a clean sheet, it doesn't mean our defence was totally solid. Not writing him off based on that but if you'd seen the game you wouldn't have been totally surprised to see Evans on the bench the next week. Yeah because we looked rock solid against Wolves and Evans was great... what a crock of shit. As for calling Wes's game a disaster when others were far more culpable I can only come to the conclusion they haven't even watched a game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 19 September 2018 Share Posted 19 September 2018 Evans has had a poor 20 minutes. Morgan's been poor for months. Morgan shouldn't be starting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted 19 September 2018 Share Posted 19 September 2018 2 hours ago, Dan LCFC said: Evans has had a poor 20 minutes. Morgan's been poor for months. Morgan shouldn't be starting. I don't think it is a matter of speed with Wes, it's more a matter of mobility. He just doesn't seem to turn or react quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 19 September 2018 Share Posted 19 September 2018 Why is everyone getting butt hurt when the article is spot on and everyone here knows Wes is past it? Yeah, Evans looked rusty and new to the side, big shock, we still looked more solid than in any other game so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 19 September 2018 Share Posted 19 September 2018 Evans didn't even have that bad a game over the 90 minutes. The first 20/25 granted he was a mess but after then he was fine - in a game we spent a lot of it defending. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 19 September 2018 Share Posted 19 September 2018 15 hours ago, Corky said: https://www.football365.com/news/top-ten-summer-signings-that-look-a-bit-pointless-fred-fabinho 5) Jonny Evans (Leicester City) We presume that Wes Morgan’s utterly catastrophic 69 minutes against Bournemouth on Saturday will prompt a change at Leicester but it is verging on the ridiculous that Evans was bought by Leicester this summer – along with two other new centre-backs – and yet Claude Puel persisted with 34-year-old Morgan as Harry Maguire’s partner. Why buy a former Premier League title winner, saying “he knows exactly what it takes, he is a winner and a leader”, and then leave him on the bench? Tellingly. Evans’ only Premier League start this season (against Wolves) reaped Leicester’s only clean sheet. Which should immediately destroy any argument that Maguire and Evans are both left-sided centre-halves and so cannot possibly play together. Prime example of seeing a result and not watching the game. Evans was completely done for pace on several occasions and almost played a back-pass too short that could've been intercepted. Just because we kept a clean sheet, it doesn't mean our defence was totally solid. Not writing him off based on that but if you'd seen the game you wouldn't have been totally surprised to see Evans on the bench the next week. What a pointless article, it’s been 5 games and some players haven’t made an impact yet. Therefore they are pointless signings. Some players need time to bed in, for others it is a fitness issue. Sometimes existing players step up and make themselves impossible to drop. It is squad game and the season is long if it gets to the end of the season and a fully fit Evans has played in fewer than 5 games then fair enough, criticise the signing but not when he has had a few fitness issues and is competing with club captain and England’s saviour for a place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al-aLondon-Foxile Posted 19 September 2018 Share Posted 19 September 2018 3 hours ago, Dan LCFC said: Evans didn't even have that bad a game over the 90 minutes. The first 20/25 granted he was a mess but after then he was fine - in a game we spent a lot of it defending. This. He was poor first 20, but after that he settled in well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livid Posted 19 September 2018 Share Posted 19 September 2018 2 minutes ago, Al-aLondon-Foxile said: This. He was poor first 20, but after that he settled in well. Exactly, he spent the first 20 to 25 getting dragged across to right back because Ricardo was nowhere to be seen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 19 September 2018 Share Posted 19 September 2018 1 minute ago, Livid said: Exactly, he spent the first 20 to 25 getting dragged across to right back because Ricardo was nowhere to be seen. This. The formation and system is all wrong. It makes any CB we select look woeful and slow as they are trying to cover the space left by Pereira and Chilwell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 19 September 2018 Share Posted 19 September 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dan LCFC said: Evans didn't even have that bad a game over the 90 minutes. The first 20/25 granted he was a mess but after then he was fine - in a game we spent a lot of it defending. He was about ok once Amartey was on and we were 3 at the back vs weaker wingers (Dunno why the Wolves manager took off his two best players at halftime). But, we kept a clean sheet that game inspite of Evans being on the pitch - he was the one who ****ed up massively within about five minutes and got bailed out by Chilwells goalline block. Nothing to do with Ricardo, the biggest problems he had were his positioning, being too slow on the ball and that when facing a winger he could get skinned if the winger just turned his head one way for a second. He could have had Simpson next to him, getting a nosebleed whenever the defensive line stepped up higher than the six yard box, and he'd have still looked incompetent. Edited 19 September 2018 by The Doctor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 19 September 2018 Share Posted 19 September 2018 6 hours ago, Finnegan said: Why is everyone getting butt hurt when the article is spot on and everyone here knows Wes is past it? Yeah, Evans looked rusty and new to the side, big shock, we still looked more solid than in any other game so far. It's unreal ain't it? Can't be any coincidence that most times Morgan has been absent in the last few years we've had a run of clean sheets and then he comes back in and we ship goals again. Now it's not all his fault but there's got to be some correlation, we just seem less assured with him plodding about like he's got one between his cheeks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 19 September 2018 Share Posted 19 September 2018 Just now, Ric Flair said: It's unreal ain't it? Can't be any coincidence that most times Morgan has been absent in the last few years we've had a run of clean sheets and then he comes back in and we ship goals again. Now it's not all his fault but there's got to be some correlation, we just seem less assured with him plodding about like he's got one between his cheeks. What makes me laugh more is that people spent all summer on here slagging off Morgan. If I'd made the same post that journo had in a new thread it'd have about twenty odd rep points. But because some journalist that isn't a Leicester fan has written it everyone has closed ranks, gotten offended and ripped in to it like it's a load of ill informed crap. Bunch of ****ing snowflakes on here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 19 September 2018 Share Posted 19 September 2018 20 hours ago, davieG said: Isn't Morgan a PL winner and much more recently too so I can't see the justification for that reason perhaps he should ask why Maguire is in the team I mean what has he ever won? Last time Evans won the league Wes Morgan was in a Leicester team doing their best to avoid getting into the play-offs in the Championship... Pointless argument really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post davieG Posted 2 October 2018 Popular Post Share Posted 2 October 2018 https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/why-claude-puel-collateral-damage-leicesters-unfamiliar-journey Analysis Why Claude Puel is collateral damage in Leicester’s unfamiliar journey After seven games played, Leicester City sit eighth in the Premier League. They are three points behind Tottenham in fourth, having already faced two of the pre-season title favourites. This comes after losing their most talented attacking player in the summer, and while trying to blend in a number of new players. The 10 outfielders who began their last home game started only 141 league games for Leicester last season; Harry Maguire, Jamie Vardy and Wilfred Ndidi accounted for 108. By any reasonable expectation, it has been a positive start to 2018/19. Claude Puel is also the fifth favourite to be the next Premier League manager to lose his job. An exhaustive list of those available at shorter prices consists of the crisis-stricken Jose Mourinho and the managers in charge of clubs in 16th, 18th and 19th in the table. To repeat: Leicester are eighth. If Puel has good reason to be surprised by his fragile job security, he’s probably getting used to it. After Leicester lost 4-2 at Bournemouth last month, conceding three times in the first 40 minutes, the Frenchman's continued employment was called into question. After Leicester lost their opening game of the season to Manchester United, a Daily Mirror story suggested that Puel had three games to save his job. Happy new season, everyone. Supporters might even have expected Puel to have been removed from his position over the summer after Leicester lost five of their last seven league games. For balance, he took the Foxes to ninth after Craig Shakespeare had left them in 18th. Puel is not blameless in his own fragility. The defeat to Bournemouth was defensively shambolic, and there are reasonable questions about his refusal to try a three-man central defence with Ben Chilwell and Ricardo Pereira as natural wing-backs. His tenure has also been marked by fits and starts. From mid-November, Leicester’s run of league results were as follows: five unbeaten, four without a win, three unbeaten, five without a win, two consecutive wins, five without a win. The suspicion from some supporters is that results seem to happen to Puel’s Leicester, rather than them forcing the issue. And yet it's hard to deny that Puel has answered his critics’ questions. At Southampton, the accusation was that the Frenchman played dull, negative football. Despite finishing eighth, his side scored more goals only than the bottom five, and Nathan Redmond was their top league goalscorer with seven. Since taking over in October 2017, only Manchester City, Liverpool, Tottenham, Arsenal and Chelsea have scored more Premier League goals than Leicester. They do rank 11th for chances created and ninth for shots on target, but life has hardly been dull. When Puel celebrates his first anniversary at the King Power later this month, however, there will be few champagne corks popped. This is partly a self-fulfilling prophecy. Having been appointed by a club struggling to avoid a relegation dogfight, Puel inevitably became sold as a mid-season firefighter. But firefighters put out the fire and leave; they do not make themselves at home. It is incredibly difficult for managers to alter their reputations once they have been cast. If Leicester saw Puel as a substitute teacher, Puel is a substitute teacher. But the 57-year-old's struggle for permanence also highlights Leicester’s wrestle with their own identity. Every unfancied club dreams of Leicester's unfathomable success; there is far less guidance for what comes next. What happens when the peak of your existence has already happened? Weight of history Everywhere you go at the King Power, you bump into reminders of Leicester’s annus mirabilis. The press room is adorned with newspaper cuttings of the squad lifting the Premier League trophy. The club megastore still sells commemorative merchandise. Before every home game, a video plays on the big screen to remind supporters of their season in the sun. The montage ends with Jamie Vardy, Wes Morgan, N’Golo Kante and Riyad Mahrez et al. But that’s precisely the problem: it all did end with them. Leicester can hardly be blamed for celebrating such magnificent overachievement so readily, but those newspaper cuttings and videos are both a reminder of what once was and what can never be again. Football is not a sport in which perfection is attainable, but Leicester came closer than most. When you stand at the top of your highest mountain and enjoy the view, the only way is down. Kaiserslautern, shock Bundesliga champions in 1997/98, had fallen into the second tier by 2006. Hellas Verona won the Scudetto in 1985 but were relegated in 1990. AZ Alkmaar won the Eredivisie in 1981 but went down in 1988. Nottingham Forest continue to simultaneously embrace their glorious past and yet be strangled by the pressure it has created. History is littered with clubs that achieved the unthinkable, but then struggled to deal with the subsequent sound of silence. From the moment their Champions League campaign ended against Atletico Madrid in April 2017, Leicester were destined to exist in an ‘after the Lord Mayor’s show’ haze. That must be suffocating for those players left behind, but also for every manager appointed and asked to re-bottle lightning. Leicester’s owners do not expect to win the league again, but glory is a drug. You can't blame them for chasing the dragon. If that chase is ultimately a forlorn one, it only makes the experience itself more important. Puel is a manager who builds the house rather than hosts the parties. Since beating Tottenham in his fifth match in charge, Puel has won one and lost five of his eight league games against the Big Six. There’s nothing quite as deflating as the realisation that you aren’t special anymore. But Puel is not the cause of Leicester’s peculiarity, merely a symptom of it. He was tasked with providing stability; it isn’t his fault that stability isn’t much fun when compared with what came before. After the fireworks and champagne and long nights of summer, glory leaves behind an odd residue. Leicester face an unfamiliar journey, with or without Claude Puel. Read more at https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/why-claude-puel-collateral-damage-leicesters-unfamiliar-journey#yxhtE3ZjiyV8M94F.99 16 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 2 October 2018 Share Posted 2 October 2018 I wondered who’d written that as it’s an exceptional piece, should have guessed it was Daniel Storey. He’s a Forest fan but born in Loughborough iirc, so he knows us better than most journalists do. It’s esoteric the malaise that’s set in with us as a club, I’ve not seen any article get as close as that does to describing our position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend_in_blue Posted 2 October 2018 Share Posted 2 October 2018 That article is bang on the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 2 October 2018 Share Posted 2 October 2018 3 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said: That article is bang on the money. Excellent piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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