Youri Tielemans

[Dahnsouff]

14 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

If there's any Silva/Tielemans swap then it would surely involve us trying to get the deal done.

Can't imagine that Monaco are that bothered to trade a young lad with plenty of scope for improvement for a nearly 30 year old that can't get a starting spot in Leicester's development team.

Apart from sure I read somewhere Jardim has worked with Silva before and rates him quite highly?

[hackneyfox]

5 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

they wouldnt accept that given they paid £20mil for him, if we wont to buy him its going to cost most than what they paid

We aren't expecting £22m for Silva as we want him off our books, shouldn't the same apply to Monaco?

[Ric Flair]

3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Apart from sure I read somewhere Jardim has worked with Silva before and rates him quite highly?

Jardim worked with him at Sporting

[Aesc]

If we are interested in Tielemans and they are potentially trying to squeeze more moolah out of us, of course Puel is going to be saying nice things about the centre mids we already have, so we don't seem desperate for this Youri lad. This works the other way too, it doesn't alienate Silva (any more than he already has been!), in case the deal falls through and we need to call on him at some point.

Rather than transparency, Puel's priority here is to help get the best deal for the club and to try to not make Silva feel even less wanted, if that is even possible.

Not sure this is the thing to be slagging Puel off for, he is saying what any other manager would and should say in this situation. Probably even what the owners/Rudkin want him to say too.

[Realist Guy In The Room]

2 hours ago, SecretPro said:

My mate just text me and told me that he and my wife are moving to Cornwall together.

Lovely part of the country.

[Vardinio'sCat]

19 hours ago, Dr Marco said:

I watch every Monaco game (it's my French team) and he's been really poor (to be polite) for the past year and a half he's been playing for them

Is he better than the last guy they sold us?

[Dahnsouff]

3 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Jardim worked with him at Sporting

Right you are - some form of nefarious love triangle with Jardim - Silva - Lcfc - where our interest in Jardim as manager has cooled as long we get Tielemans so Jardim can return to Monaco as long as he  gets Silva

Murky business..... 

[GingerrrFox]

17 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

they wouldnt accept that given they paid £20mil for him, if we wont to buy him its going to cost most than what they paid

Jardim and Tielemans had a fall out when he was previously manager of Monaco and Jardim knows Silva from the Sporting days. Clubs very rarely make their money back on players that don’t work out and I’d be very surprised if the information about £18 mill plus Silva didn’t do the job. 

[turtmcfly]

3 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Hahahaaa but he surely must realise how strange his actions have been with Silva and how the fans meet such news? The fact he called him a box to box midfielder like Tielemans after he categorically said he wasn't " that type of midfielder " to Ian Stringer last season is the icing on the cake.

 

If journalists weren't selective with their quotes. If headline writers has more than a passing interest in the subject matter they were putting a headline on. If whatever Puel says was just for the fans' ears, rather than having to cater to multiple audiences (with sometimes polar opposite aims). If what Puel said wasn't being directed to someone unknowable degree by those above him.....

 

...I still wouldn't give a monkey's whether he'd changed his mind about Silva's box-to-box credentials

 

 

 

[Babylon]

15 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Hahahaaa but he surely must realise how strange his actions have been with Silva and how the fans meet such news? The fact he called him a box to box midfielder like Tielemans after he categorically said he wasn't " that type of midfielder " to Ian Stringer last season is the icing on the cake.

His actions haven't been strange.

 

He doesn't fancy him, that's clear enough.

We lost Iborra, so he moves up the pecking order, that's clear enough.

If we let him go we'd be short of players (king likely to go), so that's clear enough.

So it's highly likely that unless we sign someone, he has to stay.

 

I'm not entirely sure what he's meant to do differently. You'd be apoplectic with him if we got an injury and James ended up playing because we'd sent him off without a replacement.

[FrankieADZ]

2 minutes ago, GingerrrFox said:

Jardim and Tielemans had a fall out when he was previously manager of Monaco and Jardim knows Silva from the Sporting days. Clubs very rarely make their money back on players that don’t work out and I’d be very surprised if the information about £18 mill plus Silva didn’t do the job. 

tbf though it all depends, theyll be looking for at least what they paid, probably more though given the age of him and that, too

 

he hasnt been a failure there tbh hes just been average, so imo if we want him, it will on a permanent deal then its going to cost least £20mil, but i guess it will all depends on how he does on loan first

[Beechey]

If he can do some of this here, I'll be delighted 

[SecretPro]

17 minutes ago, Realist Guy In The Room said:

Lovely part of the country.

That's what hurts the most. St Ives is my spiritual home.

[sphericalfox]

37 minutes ago, Babylon said:

I think people wildly over reacting to everything he says and constantly looks for issues is just as much of an issue as his communication, if not more so. People can't or don't want to read between the lines in terms of what a manager probably thinks and what a manager can say as he still has to deal with players whilst they are under contract.

Pearson was just as obtuse when it came to transfer discussions. He's literally following club policy and he gets caned for it. 

[urban.spaceman]

5 minutes ago, Beechey said:

 

If he can do some of this here, I'll be delighted 

Don’t do this to me. 

[Ric Flair]

8 minutes ago, Babylon said:

His actions haven't been strange.

 

He doesn't fancy him, that's clear enough.

We lost Iborra, so he moves up the pecking order, that's clear enough.

If we let him go we'd be short of players (king likely to go), so that's clear enough.

So it's highly likely that unless we sign someone, he has to stay.

 

I'm not entirely sure what he's meant to do differently. You'd be apoplectic with him if we got an injury and James ended up playing because we'd sent him off without a replacement.

I know you like to adopt the approach of devil's advocate and I admire it but this is horse manure pal, he's completely changed his approach with Silva within the last week. I don't mind that he has, but that he has done.

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, Ric Flair said:

I know you like to adopt the approach of devil's advocate and I admire it but this is horse manure pal, he's completely changed his approach with Silva within the last week. I don't mind that he has, but that he has done.

Must admit I tend to agree with @Babylon - his actions seem quite sensible based on what has happened, and even more so if other activity (Such as Kingy leaving) is occurring behind the scene (and God knows what else, like Choudury to  PSG or Barnes to Bayern )

[Babylon]

2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I know you like to adopt the approach of devil's advocate and I admire it but this is horse manure pal, he's completely changed his approach with Silva within the last week. I don't mind that he has, but that he has done.

How has he?

[Ric Flair]

Just now, Dahnsouff said:

Must admit I tend to agree with @Babylon - his actions seem quite sensible based on what has happened, and even more so if other activity (Such as Kingy leaving) is occurring behind the scene (and God knows what else, like Choudury to  PSG or Barnes to Bayern )

I also agree, we should be keeping him if we aren't bringing in anyone but Puel has definitely shifted in his thinking in the last week or so on him. He's obviously now cropped up on his spreadsheet roulette on team selection, wouldn't be the first time it happened with a forgotten player.

[Jordan]

Monaco fans are--almost to a man--absolutely bashing Tielemans on social media and seem thrilled to be getting rid of him.

 

However, this story has caused every Spurs fan between the ages of 15-35 to tweet their disbelief that Tottenham aren't in for Tielemans if he's available at £20m, so that cancels out the above. In fact, this might even tip the scales to make me support this deal for the rustle factor alone.

[Babylon]

Just now, Ric Flair said:

I also agree, we should be keeping him if we aren't bringing in anyone but Puel has definitely shifted in his thinking in the last week or so on him. He's obviously now cropped up on his spreadsheet roulette on team selection, wouldn't be the first time it happened with a forgotten player.

Of course his thinking might have changed, one month ago he probably wanted rid of him and a replacement to come in. If that doesn't happen, then he's going to have to change his thinking because the situation is then entirely different, that doesn't make it "strange", or wrong or anything else.

[Ric Flair]

1 minute ago, Babylon said:

How has he?

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/claude-puel-explains-adrien-silva-2405258

 

This was all said whilst it was common knowledge that Iborra was also going. Since then there has been 2 league games that he's not been anywhere near. Now he's being talked about in terms of playing in a 4-3-3 as that'll be good for him in the 2nd half of the season. I don't know what more Puel could say in terms of he's now going to be given opportunities.

[Stevosevic]

So is this happening or what? 

[Babylon]

1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/claude-puel-explains-adrien-silva-2405258

 

This was all said whilst it was common knowledge that Iborra was also going. Since then there has been 2 league games that he's not been anywhere near. Now he's being talked about in terms of playing in a 4-3-3 as that'll be good for him in the 2nd half of the season. I don't know what more Puel could say in terms of he's now going to be given opportunities.

Focus on the quotes and not the shite the mercury put around it, he said nothing about Silva going, didn't mention names of who would go or who wouldn't. Just about game time and having to rebalance the squad and Silva wanting to play.

 

As I said above, his intention probably was to move him on, but if that didn't happen then he still has to be able to play him and he's more likely to play because Iborra has moved. I can't fathom why that's "strange".

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

43 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Hahahaaa but he surely must realise how strange his actions have been with Silva and how the fans meet such news? The fact he called him a box to box midfielder like Tielemans after he categorically said he wasn't " that type of midfielder " to Ian Stringer last season is the icing on the cake.

Even the director of football was baffled by his treatment of Silva last year.