Chico1958 Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 On the roller coaster again. Sat there fearing the worst last night only to find myself feeling very proud of the team at 9:50pm. Same again Sunday please.
MC Prussian Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 We did well defensively and stifled pretty much all of Liverpool's attacks. We had more and the better chances overall, yet our incredibly slow starts, our woeful finishing and incoherent attacking displays act a bit as a downer. In Liverpool's and Klopp's defense, the pitch didn't do anybody any favours, it wasn't in the best of conditions. Although I have to say I was a bit disappointed with most of Liverpool's players, Albrighton had a field day against Robertson, Firmino dangerous in parts, Salah went off the radar once he realized the referee won't fall for his antics in our box. Alisson looked as if he was begging for us to score (again). We've got the fifth-best defense in the league and joint tenth-best attack in the league, which looks pretty good and solid on paper. Sadly, we're now down to 11th and face Spurs and Manchester United up next. Spurs have gotten some of their good feelings back, with Kane's replacement Llorente scoring yesterday, being quite the nuisance up front. And Manchester United show some proper grit and determination under Solskjaer, with a rejuvenated Pogba in the middle. Two tough fixtures. Then again, just like yesterday proved once more, we do play better against top teams for some odd reason, so... However, I think there wouldn't be such an uproar regarding the manager if we were more clinical in front of goal. The general decision-making by Vardy, Maddison and Gray is frustrating at times, and yesterday was just another classic example of how overly complicated it all becomes once they are faced with goalscoring opportunities (when being served by their midfielder team mates, mind). Add to that players such as Iheanacho and Okazaki who contribute little in their respective attacking roles. Need to do better there. Much better.
StriderHiryu Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 1 hour ago, Cardiff_Fox said: This Maguire should have been off argument. The rule is goalscoring opportunity. Given it was 40 yards from goal, the ball going wide of centre into a part of the pitch ignored by the Liverpool ground staff. Aye, goalscoring opportunity you thick Wools The Liverpool fans are desperate for the title and it’s affecting their judgement. They should have got a penalty but yellow card was the right call there. They were so nervous last night I wonder if they’ll do it. The Kop usually has an incredible atmosphere but I thought it felt like it strangled the players and worked against their team. Truth is in open play they didn’t create much and if anything we created more clear cut chances. In fact in the last two games surely a big positive is our attacking play has looked much, much better.
RowlattsFox Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 I enjoy the fact I'm listening to plastic scousers moaning about the pen at work. Master of excuses, pen, red card, pitch quality etc
Dahnsouff Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 Maddison needs to be careful and step up. If (when?) Tielemans signs for the duration of the season, Maddison may find his opportunties reduced.
AKCJ Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 Ricardo and Chilwell are simply sensational full backs. Both have the potential to play pretty much wherever they want to.
UniFox21 Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 2 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said: I enjoy the fact I'm listening to plastic scousers moaning about the pen at work. Master of excuses, pen, red card, pitch quality etc Pitch quality goes out the window given they cleared their attacking half and not ours
La-li-lu-le-lo Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 1 minute ago, MC Prussian said: We did well defensively and stifled pretty much all of Liverpool's attacks. We had more and the better chances overall, yet our incredibly slow starts, our woeful finishing and incoherent attacking displays act a bit as a downer. In Liverpool's and Klopp's defense, the pitch didn't do anybody any favours, it wasn't in the best of conditions. Although I have to say I was a bit disappointed with most of Liverpool's players, Albrighton had a field day against Robertson, Firmino dangerous in parts, Salah went off the radar once he realized the referee won't fall for his antics in our box. Alisson looked as if he was begging for us to score (again). We've got the fifth-best defense in the league and joint tenth-best attack in the league, which looks pretty good and solid on paper. Sadly, we're now down to 11th and Spurs and Manchester United up next. Spurs have gotten some of their good feelings back, with Kane's replacement Llorente scoring twice yesterday. And Manchester United show some proper grit and determination under Solksjaer. Two touch cookies. Then again, just like yesterday proved once more, we do play better against top teams for some odd reason, so... However, I think there wouldn't be such an uproar regarding the manager if we were more clinical in front of goal. The general decision-making by Vardy, Maddison and Gray is frustrating at times, and yesterday was just another classic example of how overly complicated it all becomes once they are faced with goalscoring opportunities (when being served by their midfielder team mates, mind). Add to that players such as Iheanacho and Okazaki who contribute little in their respective attacking roles. Need to do better there. Much better. Just to pick on your point re Maddison and Vardy’s decision making, absolutely spot on. Maddison has a cracking game yesterday, until he got in front of goal...... maybe he’s lacking confidence in the final third I don’t know, but he seems delayed in taking shots, which is bizarre because Iran one of his strongest attributes. I’m sure once he nets again he will from in confidence, yesterday he showed signs of what he can do with some intelligent balls, he just needs to work on his composure when in the final third. And as you’ve pointed out, decisions.
CosbehFox Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 2 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said: The Liverpool fans are desperate for the title and it’s affecting their judgement. They should have got a penalty but yellow card was the right call there. They were so nervous last night I wonder if they’ll do it. The Kop usually has an incredible atmosphere but I thought it felt like it strangled the players and worked against their team. Truth is in open play they didn’t create much and if anything we created more clear cut chances. In fact in the last two games surely a big positive is our attacking play has looked much, much better. The last twenty five minutes they rushed the game with no conviction. Trying shots from miles out. If they had kept any composure they’d have created a chance, in the last four minutes (injury time) they finally knocked it around better but too late. Their fans looked more nervous than anyone else. If this is how nervy/panicky, they are getting in January. Then I’m worried for them come March when it really gets nervy
marcymarc666 Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 This performance reminded me of our title winning season. As soon as the ball got caught up between players you knew who was going to come away with it. As frustrating as it can be sometimes we are a team that is slowly evolving under this manager who may have just acquired another gem in Tielemens.
escos Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 This red card thing is doing my head in. Maguire actually made the challenge/foul a split second before Evans missed the ball, so technically at the very point of the foul, Maguire was not the last man!! Plus we know Mane is quick but it can’t be a red card for him and not if it was A slower player. Rules can’t be made for individual players.
StriderHiryu Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 2 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: The last twenty five minutes they rushed the game with no conviction. Trying shots from miles out. If they had kept any composure they’d have created a chance, in the last four minutes (injury time) they finally knocked it around better but too late. Their fans looked more nervous than anyone else. If this is how nervy/panicky, they are getting in January. Then I’m worried for them come March when it really gets nervy Very much agree. It's the wrong type of nervousness. When we were on for the title we were also understandably apprehensive, but I thought our crowd worked in our favour in tough games like Norwich, Newcastle, Swansea, even West Ham when it looked like we'd bottled it. Against Norwich I really felt like everyone in the crowd that day got us the result. We were the 12th man!
UniFox21 Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 Just now, StriderHiryu said: Very much agree. It's the wrong type of nervousness. When we were on for the title we were also understandably apprehensive, but I thought our crowd worked in our favour in tough games like Norwich, Newcastle, Swansea, even West Ham when it looked like we'd bottled it. Against Norwich I really felt like everyone in the crowd that day got us the result. We were the 12th man! Their crowd just dropped throughout the game, could hear our fans shouting and singing but very little from them.
Stevosevic Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 7 minutes ago, UniFox21 said: Their crowd just dropped throughout the game, could hear our fans shouting and singing but very little from them. Standard Anfield. The press get wet over them singing YNWA 1 minute before kick off and at full time. They forget it's silent throughout.
yorkie1999 Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 Just now, Stevosevic said: Standard Anfield. The press get wet over them singing YNWA 1 minute before kick off and at full time. They forget it's silent throughout. They've upped their game then, last time i went it was just gerry and the pacemakers blasted through the speakers and everyone just stood there holding up scarves
StriderHiryu Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 5 minutes ago, Stevosevic said: Standard Anfield. The press get wet over them singing YNWA 1 minute before kick off and at full time. They forget it's silent throughout. At least they are better than Everton. Normally fans sing "you only sing when you're winning!" but Everton are literally the only team I can think of that don't even sing when they are winning!
Fosse93 Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 Fantastic performance last night, actually enjoyed watching us these past 2 games!
harpendenfox Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 29 minutes ago, AKCJ said: Ricardo and Chilwell are simply sensational full backs. Both have the potential to play pretty much wherever they want to. Agreed. Both worth £50 million already.
ThaiFox Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 27 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said: The Liverpool fans are desperate for the title and it’s affecting their judgement. They should have got a penalty but yellow card was the right call there. They were so nervous last night I wonder if they’ll do it. The Kop usually has an incredible atmosphere but I thought it felt like it strangled the players and worked against their team. Truth is in open play they didn’t create much and if anything we created more clear cut chances. In fact in the last two games surely a big positive is our attacking play has looked much, much better. Spot on (as usual). It actually looked like the Man City result hindered them because all the talk was about 'being 7 points clear' before the match started. It certainly looked like it affected Liverpool. Thought we were excellent last night and it shows the players are playing for Puel, whatever the fans think. Chilwell was outstanding. There was a lot made of Maguire's yellow/red card, but Vardy was blatantly cut down in the first half when on a fast break, and that hasn't been mentioned at all in any media report I've read out here.
ge12 Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 In regards to the quality of the pitch, am I the only one who thinks that the only reason they scored was actually due to the snow on the pitch? Mane's touch is heavy but the snow slows the ball up enabling him to get to it and shoot before Ndidi who is coming back to cover, also think its pretty harsh to blame Mendy too much as both he and Mane overrun the ball, again to due to it slowing up in the snow, but Mane is able to adjust more quickly as he is in possession.
Jack1993 Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 It's very positive that we're taking points from some of the best teams in Europe... If we have a positive summer I can see us being a real force, although buying players that are better than the ones we've got in certain areas is difficult. Also, the Premier League & Sky definitely owe us about 30 million for keeping the title race exciting!
yorkie1999 Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 11 hours ago, Dames said: Another game where we start very slowly and then have to chase the game. I don’t know what the issue is but if we can get the chasing from the start without the handicap then we’ll be some team. When the handbrake is off we do play some very good attacking football, we proved today that we can create plenty of chances when committing bodies forwards and pressing the opposition. Puel has to see this is the way forward because it works. Was slightly disappointed Puel used the subs to take the sting out of the game and deprive us of an outball and basically invite Liverpool to attack us for nearly 20 minutes, we were well in the game and still causing them problems at that point but I guess the need for a result of some sort made him want to conserve what we had. It could have easily backfired if Liverpool were on job. All in all a great point and something to build on. Just shift Maddison back to number 10 from the start and bring Barnes in and Puel might be onto something when/if Tielemans signs. I think its all to do with the kick off, we basically give the ball to the opposition and say come at us with the ball, like a rugby kick off. We would be better off playing it back to the defence and say come at us without the ball.
Fox1norfolk Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 12 hours ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said: Great point, well deserved against the cheating half pitch clearing knobends. I've always admired Kloop, but blaming snow on the pitch for the result, then clearing at halftime just the half they were attacking, very poor sport !
The Quick Brown Fox Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 1 hour ago, MC Prussian said: We did well defensively and stifled pretty much all of Liverpool's attacks. We had more and the better chances overall, yet our incredibly slow starts, our woeful finishing and incoherent attacking displays act a bit as a downer. In Liverpool's and Klopp's defense, the pitch didn't do anybody any favours, it wasn't in the best of conditions. Although I have to say I was a bit disappointed with most of Liverpool's players, Albrighton had a field day against Robertson, Firmino dangerous in parts, Salah went off the radar once he realized the referee won't fall for his antics in our box. Alisson looked as if he was begging for us to score (again). We've got the fifth-best defense in the league and joint tenth-best attack in the league, which looks pretty good and solid on paper. Sadly, we're now down to 11th and Spurs and Manchester United up next. Spurs have gotten some of their good feelings back, with Kane's replacement Llorente scoring twice yesterday. And Manchester United show some proper grit and determination under Solksjaer. Two touch cookies. Then again, just like yesterday proved once more, we do play better against top teams for some odd reason, so... However, I think there wouldn't be such an uproar regarding the manager if we were more clinical in front of goal. The general decision-making by Vardy, Maddison and Gray is frustrating at times, and yesterday was just another classic example of how overly complicated it all becomes once they are faced with goalscoring opportunities (when being served by their midfielder team mates, mind). Add to that players such as Iheanacho and Okazaki who contribute little in their respective attacking roles. Need to do better there. Much better. Sorry to be picky but Llorente only scored 1 yesterday. Son got the first
Ted Maul Posted 31 January 2019 Posted 31 January 2019 1 hour ago, escos said: This red card thing is doing my head in. Maguire actually made the challenge/foul a split second before Evans missed the ball, so technically at the very point of the foul, Maguire was not the last man!! Plus we know Mane is quick but it can’t be a red card for him and not if it was A slower player. Rules can’t be made for individual players. 100%, something the pundits failed to pick up on- it wasn't a reaction, the contact was at pretty much the exact moment Evans went to control the ball.
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