Tielemans

[Babylon]

6 hours ago, cal21212121 said:

I don't understand why everyone is arguing about the clubs finances. We don't know what the club is capable of or willing to spend, as with most clubs unless you're run by the porn brothers posting everything on Twitter.

Well we sort of do if you follow the accounts.

[Babylon]

10 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

But Soyuncu, Ward, Ghezzal and Benkovic could all flop and we lose 40m very quickly. I think they would pay it for an exceptional talent. They dont seem arsed about going up to £25m for players, plus I think we will sell Chilwell or Maguire for silly money so we will make an attempt to get him I'm sure.

That's spread over 4 players and not one. The risk increase when all your eggs are in one basket, and I'm not talking in terms of whether they are good enough. But the lad could do his knee a week later

[foxfanazer]

Not been this excited about a player for a long time. Always been an admirer of his but never expected him to adapt to the PL as quick as he has done

[Babylon]

10 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

But Soyuncu, Ward, Ghezzal and Benkovic could all flop and we lose 40m very quickly. I think they would pay it for an exceptional talent. They dont seem arsed about going up to £25m for players, plus I think we will sell Chilwell or Maguire for silly money so we will make an attempt to get him I'm sure.

We need two top players, unless we sell someone like you say I'd be amazed if we had the money to buy Tielemans and pump what we'd need to on a striker as well. We'll have problems shifting Slim even on loan in the summer with how bad he's been in Turkey. I was hoping he'd do ok and we'd get a bit of money back on him.

 

Tielemans we can do if they want Silva, £25m and Silva is more than doable. But I do think it would hinge on him being wanted there. Considering what they paid you'd imagine they'd see that as a decent deal. Profit on the player and someone who is performing for them essentially free.

[OntarioFox]

If Rodgers wants Tielemans here, we'll go all-in to get him, surely?

Don't forget that him not being backed by the board up in the Buckie Triangle was a key reason he left for our greener grass in the first place. He signed with the understanding that the board would back him in the market, and has already spoken openly about planning to spend in the summer.

 

Not saying we'll definitely hold on to him, but I would be amazed if we don't at least try to tie Youri down on some sort of deal, even just for a two or three year deal.

[cambridgefox]

3 minutes ago, Babylon said:

We need two top players, unless we sell someone like you say I'd be amazed if we had the money to buy Tielemans and pump what we'd need to on a striker as well. We'll have problems shifting Slim even on loan in the summer with how bad he's been in Turkey. I was hoping he'd do ok and we'd get a bit of money back on him.

 

Tielemans we can do if they want Silva, £25m and Silva is more than doable. But I do think it would hinge on him being wanted there. Considering what they paid you'd imagine they'd see that as a decent deal. Profit on the player and someone who is performing for them essentially free.

How is Silva doing at Monaco?

little out of touch.

[Babylon]

2 minutes ago, cambridgefox said:

How is Silva doing at Monaco?

little out of touch.

Doing well it seems, fans like him and he's played with the manager before. So you'd hope it was a no brainer.

[cambridgefox]

Just now, Babylon said:

Doing well it seems, fans like him and he's played with the manager before. So you'd hope it was a no brainer.

The answer I was hoping for.Maybe push Silva price up a tad,both players and clubs happy and just maybe this then becomes more affordable.

[whoareyaaa]

I think we have a better chance of signing him than most teams he's still young so a couple of seasons with us should allow him to attract one of the bigger clubs plus we have bargaining power with Silva 

[Ric Flair]

1 hour ago, Babylon said:

That's spread over 4 players and not one. The risk increase when all your eggs are in one basket, and I'm not talking in terms of whether they are good enough. But the lad could do his knee a week later

You might be right, there arent many clubs that will spend £40m+ on a player, even in our league but that possibly will change soon. Its inevitable.

 

Thankfully, whether Tielemans costs £40m up front or whether we can put Silva in the deal you'd imagine that Silva will get us back £10-15m in the summer as he is rebuilding his reputation quite quickly. Therefore I could see us doing the deal. We have supposedly bid £45m for Sigurdsson and £40m for Malcom before but we dont actually know if that's true or not and it was during a time we were running more cash rich.

 

I dont think we really know for certain, so my belief they will go for Tielemans even at a big price is more a gut feeling than anything.

 

I also firmly believe if finances aren't as free as they have been then we will sell Maguire or Chilwell which then pays for 2-3 players elsewhere. 

 

We also don't know from the accounts what we are owed in transfers from Drinkwater, Kante, Schlupp etc.

[TonyN11]

On 23/03/2019 at 13:42, KingsX said:

 

 

The recent financials showed the player costs to turnover ratio is way out of whack.  It will surely be reduced.  Whatever the club knock off the wage bill, not all can go back on.

 

The board will see Puel’s tenure as having been a major step in that regard.  The total weekly wage of the starting XI has been slashed, and some deadwood cleared.  Without that trimming, signing Tielemans might not be a realistic option.  Also, we surely would have been less attractive to Rodgers if this had to be addressed entirely on the new man’s watch.

Hurrah Klod!

[Deeg67]

20 hours ago, OntarioFox said:

If Rodgers wants Tielemans here, we'll go all-in to get him, surely?
 

If? Kind of hard to imagine Rodgers doesn’t want him - he’s been his best player since Rodgers’ arrival.  I don’t think that’s going to be an issue.

[weller54]

Shall we all have a whip round and help raise some dosh to help the club buy him? 

 

[Ric Flair]

43 minutes ago, weller54 said:

Shall we all have a whip round and help raise some dosh to help the club buy him? 

 

Weren't we gonna do that for the return of Joey Gudjohnsen at £250k but still didnt happen? 

[Foxxed]

On 24/03/2019 at 15:36, Ric Flair said:

They own hotels and various other businesses. They've not pumped their own money in to LCFC for several years, it doesnt make much difference unless we were suddenly in trouble which I can't see why we would be

 I dread to think what life insurance policies Vichai had as well. 

I wonder how much 'hotels and other businesses' contribute to their income. I'd be massively surprised if the duty free gig doesn't take up more than 2/3s of their empire. I wonder if we can get their accounts online.

[Ric Flair]

15 minutes ago, Foxxed said:

I wonder how much 'hotels and other businesses' contribute to their income. I'd be massively surprised if the duty free gig doesn't take up more than 2/3s of their empire. I wonder if we can get their accounts online.

Oh yes, I'm sure it will do. What they earn from that is obscene, I think they have been busy investing in plenty else as they will have predicted s time would come where their monopoly would end. 

[Foxxed]

22 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Oh yes, I'm sure it will do. What they earn from that is obscene, I think they have been busy investing in plenty else as they will have predicted s time would come where their monopoly would end. 

I hope so. Apart from us, I've not heard of anything big they've invested in, or anything they're getting loads of cash from. We're probably generating quite a bit of revenue from our academy. I can't remember the last time we produced three England nationals. If Tavares comes good we'll have another. Still, I imagine King Power will have have much less cash than in previous years. And us too, since the Champions League and Mahrez money has long gone.

[Xen]

32 minutes ago, Foxxed said:

I hope so. Apart from us, I've not heard of anything big they've invested in, or anything they're getting loads of cash from. We're probably generating quite a bit of revenue from our academy. I can't remember the last time we produced three England nationals. If Tavares comes good we'll have another. Still, I imagine King Power will have have much less cash than in previous years. And us too, since the Champions League and Mahrez money has long gone.

He's Portuguese.

 

I don't think we (LCFC) have got too much to worry about. The owners have made us self-sufficient (PL money certainly helps with that) over the years and since the initial cash injection/debt write-off they've not pumped that much money in. The only impact to us that I can see is a potential end to the shirt/stadium sponsor deal, which would just be replaced by something else anyway so our cash flow would be mostly unaffected.

[Danizen]

22 minutes ago, Xen said:

He's Portuguese.

 

I don't think we (LCFC) have got too much to worry about. The owners have made us self-sufficient (PL money certainly helps with that) over the years and since the initial cash injection/debt write-off they've not pumped that much money in. The only impact to us that I can see is a potential end to the shirt/stadium sponsor deal, which would just be replaced by something else anyway so our cash flow would be mostly unaffected.

Isn't the King Power sponsorship lower than the market value? 

 

I'm guessing if we had problems with money, the deal would be renegotiated to the absolute limit allowed by FFP.

[Spudulike]

1 hour ago, Foxxed said:

I hope so. Apart from us, I've not heard of anything big they've invested in, or anything they're getting loads of cash from. We're probably generating quite a bit of revenue from our academy. I can't remember the last time we produced three England nationals. If Tavares comes good we'll have another. Still, I imagine King Power will have have much less cash than in previous years. And us too, since the Champions League and Mahrez money has long gone.

I think that Man City still owe us at least half of the Mahrez transfer fee.

[Strokes]

40 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

I think that Man City still owe us at least half of the Mahrez transfer fee.

We had that money factored from that Aussie bank.

[Spudulike]

6 minutes ago, Strokes said:

We had that money factored from that Aussie bank.

So Man City owe the Aussie bank and we've spent it already ??

[Strokes]

5 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

So Man City owe the Aussie bank and we've spent it already ??

Yes, that’s how I understand it.

[Foxxed]

3 hours ago, Xen said:

He's Portuguese.

 

I don't think we (LCFC) have got too much to worry about. The owners have made us self-sufficient (PL money certainly helps with that) over the years and since the initial cash injection/debt write-off they've not pumped that much money in. The only impact to us that I can see is a potential end to the shirt/stadium sponsor deal, which would just be replaced by something else anyway so our cash flow would be mostly unaffected.

I mean gets to their level.

 

If we're self sufficient, have we generated enough for Tielemans transfer fee with all the money on the stadium and academy?

Edited 26 March 2019 by Foxxed

[Ric Flair]

30 minutes ago, Foxxed said:

I mean gets to their level.

 

If we're self sufficient, have we generated enough for Tielemans transfer fee with all the money on the stadium and academy?

Who knows, our wage bill was so high it pretty much accounted for the total income we received which is not ideal long term, for us to make significant signings as well we'd need to sell some big assets or effectively make a loss/pump cash in via the owners. We will be saving a huge amount come the summer with the likes of Simpson, Benalouane, Fuchs, Okazaki all leaving and then several others likely to be moved on.