Babylon Posted 25 May 2019 Posted 25 May 2019 1 hour ago, Viva said: What’s that got to do with anything I’m saying? Every team in the top six sells their players. No team has actually broken into the top six, selling or not selling their players. It takes stupid amounts of money, which we don’t have.
Babylon Posted 25 May 2019 Posted 25 May 2019 1 hour ago, Viva said: Come on, you’ve got to do better than that. It’s getting boring now anyway. I don’t like weakening our team if we don’t have to. Selling Maguire weakens the team. None of us know how much money we have to spend if we sell him or not anyway. It doesn’t weaken the team if you buy the right players. FFS. Reality is we are getting nowhere without money, if we don’t have it then we need to find it. 1
Dahnsouff Posted 25 May 2019 Posted 25 May 2019 1 hour ago, Viva said: He fits into every other team in the league. That makes him one of our best players. Nope. No he doesn’t.
Viva Posted 25 May 2019 Posted 25 May 2019 28 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Nope. No he doesn’t. Which ones doesn’t he get into?
Viva Posted 25 May 2019 Posted 25 May 2019 41 minutes ago, Babylon said: It doesn’t weaken the team if you buy the right players. FFS. Reality is we are getting nowhere without money, if we don’t have it then we need to find it. That’s a big if. You don’t get the quality of Maddison and Pereira every season. As i’ve said before, I don’t think we need major changes to be very competitive next season. One, possibly two first teamers and some extra depth in the squad. I don’t think we would necessarily need to generate money from a huge sale to achieve this. If however the club feel that Maguire would have his head turned and would not perform to the best of his ability if a huge offer came in, then that’s a different matter. Otherwise I wouldn’t be selling.
Dahnsouff Posted 25 May 2019 Posted 25 May 2019 30 minutes ago, Viva said: Which ones doesn’t he get into? Burnley, Liverpool, should not get into Man City’s, to name a few. He is a very good defender, but he is not the Messiah. (That’s clearly Jonny)
Viva Posted 25 May 2019 Posted 25 May 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Burnley, Liverpool, should not get into Man City’s, to name a few. He is a very good defender, but he is not the Messiah. (That’s clearly Jonny) I’d be very surprised if he didn’t get in ahead of Matip or Lovren. I think he’s definitely moved ahead of Stones and most people would rate him higher than the Burnley pair, including the England manager. He was one of the best defenders at the World Cup only a year ago. Not sure if some people forget that. Edited 25 May 2019 by Viva
Popular Post Gubbins Posted 25 May 2019 Popular Post Posted 25 May 2019 2 hours ago, Viva said: Yeah good one. Nice joke. ? Maguire is no better than the majority of the centre backs playing for any of those sides. What they lack is an organiser and leader. Maguire certainly isn't either of those things. He's an average PL centre back who is extremely good at bringing the ball out from the back. A secondary skill for a CB. He looks good next to Evans but then so does Morgan and without Evans we always look liable to concede. You stick Maguire next to Smalling or Koscielney and hel look just as ropey as he does alongside Morgan for us. 6
Dahnsouff Posted 25 May 2019 Posted 25 May 2019 1 hour ago, Viva said: I’d be very surprised if he didn’t get in ahead of Matip or Lovren. I think he’s definitely moved ahead of Stones and most people would rate him higher than the Burnley pair, including the England manager. He was one of the best defenders at the World Cup only a year ago. Not sure if some people forget that. It is all about opinions I guess.
Spicer Posted 25 May 2019 Posted 25 May 2019 I think if we get a decent offer we should sell. We have a few players below him, Benkovic, Söyüncü, (and even possibly Josh Kinight/Sam Hughes) who are likely ready to take the step up. Or at least statistically at least one of them probably is. His stock is high, now is time to sell our asset.
Dan Posted 26 May 2019 Posted 26 May 2019 On 21/05/2019 at 13:35, Koke said: Why do Maguire get so much disrespect from other fans? They treat him like he's a pub footballer. Granted he isn't worth £75/80m but he's a fine player and could play for the top 4 clubs. I hate this cliche so much but I'm guessing if he was Portguese and played for Porto he would be rated higher. I agree with this. It's gone a bit too far the other way now. 3
5waller5 Posted 26 May 2019 Posted 26 May 2019 On 25/05/2019 at 16:50, Gubbins said: That is based purely on rep rather than ability though. Arsenal, Man Utd and Bournemouths defences would not be any more solid with him in them. I'm confused ..... How did he get that reputation without the ability????
les-tah Posted 26 May 2019 Posted 26 May 2019 (edited) On 25/05/2019 at 19:49, Gubbins said: ? Maguire is no better than the majority of the centre backs playing for any of those sides. What they lack is an organiser and leader. Maguire certainly isn't either of those things. He's an average PL centre back who is extremely good at bringing the ball out from the back. A secondary skill for a CB. He looks good next to Evans but then so does Morgan and without Evans we always look liable to concede. You stick Maguire next to Smalling or Koscielney and hel look just as ropey as he does alongside Morgan for us. 100% spot on mate.. i have said many times before exactly this. Morgan was nothing without Huth either.... and Evans is our new Huth. Evans is the brains at the back for us now and id be happy with Evans/Soyuncu or Evans/Benkovic next year. The only thing id be annoyed about if we lose Maguire is his character he seems like a good team lad to have around. Edited 26 May 2019 by les-tah 2
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 26 May 2019 Posted 26 May 2019 11 hours ago, Bluetintedspecs said: Is it the 8th of August yet? This, give me Tielemans & a winger then close the window please. 1
Long Eaton Fox Posted 26 May 2019 Posted 26 May 2019 On 25/05/2019 at 16:50, Gubbins said: That is based purely on rep rather than ability though. Arsenal, Man Utd and Bournemouths defences would not be any more solid with him in them. Please don't post again
Nickbluefox Posted 27 May 2019 Posted 27 May 2019 If selling Maguire means we'd have the money to buy Tielmans and possibly a good winger, then thanks for your time with us Harry and enjoy your next job!! ??
Gubbins Posted 27 May 2019 Posted 27 May 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, 5waller5 said: I'm confused ..... How did he get that reputation without the ability???? Couple of games at the last World Cup I'd say. 4 hours ago, Long Eaton Fox said: Please don't post again Sorry to disappoint. No way Maguire would have anything close to the impact on Man Utds or Arsenal's defence that Van Dijk has had at Liverpool. Matip and Lovren are around the same quality as Kosceilney, Smalling, Lindelof etc but with Van Dijk next to them they look twice as good. Maguire has proven over the past two years that he's no leader or organiser and that's what these teams need. What they'd get is a similar player to what they already have but at a massively inflated price. Edited 27 May 2019 by Gubbins 1
MPH Posted 27 May 2019 Posted 27 May 2019 On 25/05/2019 at 11:50, Gubbins said: That is based purely on rep rather than ability though. Arsenal, Man Utd and Bournemouths defences would not be any more solid with him in them. complete madness.
weller54 Posted 27 May 2019 Posted 27 May 2019 7 hours ago, Bluearmyfox28 said: This, give me Tielemans & a winger then close the window please. Add a striker.. That's absolute priority... If Vardy gets injured we're completely fooked!... ... And please don't suggest Iheanacho as a back up plan! 1 1
joachim1965 Posted 27 May 2019 Posted 27 May 2019 2 hours ago, weller54 said: Add a striker.. That's absolute priority... If Vardy gets injured we're completely fooked!... ... And please don't suggest Iheanacho as a back up plan! We've got Nacho as back up ? 4
Nicolo Barella Posted 27 May 2019 Posted 27 May 2019 7 minutes ago, Sly said: Let’s just sign Dayot Upamecano if he goes! Ah yes, I'm sure we can drop 40 million euros+ on yet another promising young centreback
car1os Posted 27 May 2019 Posted 27 May 2019 Upamecano? Sounds like a player a team can be built around... 1 1
Grebfromgrebland Posted 27 May 2019 Posted 27 May 2019 4 hours ago, Sly said: Let’s just sign Dayot Upamecano if he goes! I'd be up for this he's really good on FIFA. Has pace too apparently.
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