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1 hour ago, lcfceaves said:

45 minutes of Gray has made me realise just how important another winger is... Has there ever been a player in the premier league with such poor end product? He has skill and pace, but my god, he cannot cross, cannot pass, cannot shoot...

 

Get the feeling Brendan will feel he can improve him, but it worries me he may be a starter at the moment...

You do realise we had Jeff Schlupp? If you’re panicking after his first 45 min cameo of the season then you need to chill out mate. Probably won’t even start this season. 

 

Re - however I do agree a new winger is needed!

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1 hour ago, lcfceaves said:

Name them... should have specified 'attacking' player

No thank you, not wasting my time for that. We're talking over 1000 players here surely, and you're saying he is rock bottom of the end product category?

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I thought that Gray got every decision on the ball wrong tonight.  I hope that's the effect of being rusty preseason, but i'm not confident.

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8 minutes ago, Walkers said:

No thank you, not wasting my time for that. We're talking over 1000 players here surely, and you're saying he is rock bottom of the end product category?

Ali Dia maybe?

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4 minutes ago, deep blue said:

I thought that Gray got every decision on the ball wrong tonight.  I hope that's the effect of being rusty preseason, but i'm not confident.

in fairness he’s not long back from the Euros and the other players have been together a couple of weeks longer..

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18 minutes ago, Walkers said:

No thank you, not wasting my time for that. We're talking over 1000 players here surely, and you're saying he is rock bottom of the end product category?

I begged the question... you commented, without answering the question, so don’t get mardy 

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12 minutes ago, deep blue said:

I thought that Gray got every decision on the ball wrong tonight.  I hope that's the effect of being rusty preseason, but i'm not confident.

Yet to see much else in competitive games previously... his stats back that up. I hope he drastically improves as he’s got the pace and skill 

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5 minutes ago, Mike Oxlong said:

In footballing terms I do believe that Gray has a cauliflower  between his ears 

Really?  I thought there was fuch all. 

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2 hours ago, lcfceaves said:

45 minutes of Gray has made me realise just how important another winger is... Has there ever been a player in the premier league with such poor end product? He has skill and pace, but my god, he cannot cross, cannot pass, cannot shoot...

 

Get the feeling Brendan will feel he can improve him, but it worries me he may be a starter at the moment...

Whilst I agree, the difference Harvey made when he came on today was just class. He’s just a constant thorn to the opposition defence all the time. 

 

Me personally I'm buzzing to see the movement  & build up play from Harvey, Youri, Madders & Pérez.

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42 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

Today showed yet again that if we had a wide forward that could finish we’d probably get that European spot or better. I love Harvey Barnes as he always puts a shift in but he lacks that clinical edge. That could come in time but I feel a proven wide man now with Barnes as impact player this season would be electric. 

 

Now it is possible that Perez will be a solution and Albrighton has been outstanding in preseason. But you can’t help but feel if this current Leicester team had a 15/16 Mahrez in it, it would be pure filth. 

 

Gray for me has had too many chances and not proved himself. I know he played all the games and started the game today but if you compare him to Barnes then whilst Barnes is also wasteful, he also dramatically impacts the game, also known as the “Shinji-jutsu effect. Gray could still be a squad option but I feel the club sold Mahrez and gave him a clear run in the first team but he didn’t take it, unlike the Chilwell, Ndidi and Maddison’s of this world. 

Please use Shinji-jutsu from now on. Shinjitsu would be even better. 

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6 hours ago, StriderHiryu said:

Today showed yet again that if we had a wide forward that could finish we’d probably get that European spot or better. I love Harvey Barnes as he always puts a shift in but he lacks that clinical edge. That could come in time but I feel a proven wide man now with Barnes as impact player this season would be electric. 

 

Now it is possible that Perez will be a solution and Albrighton has been outstanding in preseason. But you can’t help but feel if this current Leicester team had a 15/16 Mahrez in it, it would be pure filth. 

 

Gray for me has had too many chances and not proved himself. I know he played all the games and started the game today but if you compare him to Barnes then whilst Barnes is also wasteful, he also dramatically impacts the game, also known as the “Shinji-jutsu” effect. Gray could still be a squad option but I feel the club sold Mahrez and gave him a clear run in the first team but he didn’t take it, unlike the Chilwell, Ndidi and Maddison’s of this world. 

 

What are you thinking here - World Cup?

 

I like your optimism. :thumbup:

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Gray was poor again last night, so many bad decisions and forgets it’s a team game, wild & wasteful shots and poor passing. Get rid if we get a £10/£15million offer or a season long loan in the Championship, he’s had enough time to improve... 

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I would very much be in favor of a season-long loan for Gray, somewhere he can play every week and be forced to produce to keep doing so.

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2 minutes ago, Deeg67 said:

I would very much be in favor of a season-long loan for Gray, somewhere he can play every week and be forced to produce to keep doing so.

Newcastle 

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28 minutes ago, Deeg67 said:

I hear they need a Perez replacement.

Helping them build for the championship. 

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Without sounding disrespectful to the lad, Gray lacks a "footballing brain". Very good at a lot of things and really does have the potential to become a great winger (which is frustrating because you know the moment you sell him, he will kick on), but when he's in the final third he, more often than not, makes the incorrect decision.

 

It's so frustrating to watch because you know there is a great player in there, I'm just questioning if this is something you can really teach? If, he wants to be taught!

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4 minutes ago, Rusko187 said:

Without sounding disrespectful to the lad, Gray lacks a "footballing brain". Very good at a lot of things and really does have the potential to become a great winger (which is frustrating because you know the moment you sell him, he will kick on), but when he's in the final third he, more often than not, makes the incorrect decision.

 

It's so frustrating to watch because you know there is a great player in there, I'm just questioning if this is something you can really teach? If, he wants to be taught!

I totally agree with this. Talent has never been an issue for Gray. His ability to think clearly/make the right decisions,  at critical points is by far his biggest weakness.

I sincerely hope Brendan can improve it, but I am not about to hold my breath.

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7 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

Please use Shinji-jutsu from now on. Shinjitsu would be even better. 

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10 hours ago, deep blue said:

I thought that Gray got every decision on the ball wrong tonight.  I hope that's the effect of being rusty preseason, but i'm not confident.

Lloyd Dyer didn’t have a football brain and accepted it. He could be told “run in a straight line as fast as you can and then cross. If you can’t cross shoot.” And that’s what he did. The end product was often poor, but almost 40 goals and over 30 assists shows his worth.

 

Admittedly this was at a different time and different level.

 

Gray doesn’t have a football brain....but thinks that he has.

 

Many have tried to get him to be direct as he was when he was a kid, but he just doesn’t seem to be able to. There are others already in our league who can and would be a better fit in our team. 

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