Tielemans

[Nicolo Barella]

6 minutes ago, goose2010 said:

That shot goes in everyone is raving about him again. 

 

I thought he was alright yesterday like the rest of our teamt to be honest. 

Only real problem was he didn't support Ricardo enough. Otherwise he was ok

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

Played well today, when he's got time and space he will pick a great pass almost every time. Frustrates sometimes when he's closed down he tries to free himself rather than just play a simple ball and keep possession. Form is definitely getting better though and involved in a lot of our better play today, assist to boot, even if it was a scuff!

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said:

Played well today, when he's got time and space he will pick a great pass almost every time. Frustrates sometimes when he's closed down he tries to free himself rather than just play a simple ball and keep possession. Form is definitely getting better though and involved in a lot of our better play today, assist to boot, even if it was a scuff!

He must've given away at least 3 passes at the beginning of the game. He had a good second half though.

[Jonezy]

He still has a bit too many mishit passes by my liking, but he is the guy that makes us tick. Always available for a pass and capable of playing a killer ball. When he is good, the team is good.

[Guest An Sionnach]

He is nothing like as industrious as Praet , and nothing like as dangerous as Maddison so a couple of good passes a match doesn't cut it for me . Pretty sure if he wasn't our record signing he wouldn't be starting.

[shade]

1 minute ago, An Sionnach said:

He is nothing like as industrious as Praet , and nothing like as dangerous as Maddison so a couple of good passes a match doesn't cut it for me . Pretty sure if he wasn't our record signing he wouldn't be starting.

reckon we should try hirst in his position instead?

[Guest An Sionnach]

Youri  might just be style over substance, not sure that is a luxury we can afford.

[Guest]

15 minutes ago, shade said:

reckon we should try hirst in his position instead?

Someone young and really tall, ooh it makes me sweat just thinking about it 😍

[HighPeakFox]

10 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

Youri  might just be style over substance, not sure that is a luxury we can afford.

You confuse me. 

[StanSP]

Beginning to think that he wasn't chosen by other clubs because of his lack of pace/speed.

 

When he was put through in the 1st half it seemed like he was running in treacle despite not being physically pressured by any one. 

 

Anyway, aside from that, he grew in to the game like the rest of the side did after 25-30minutes. Found decent pockets of space and eventually passed well. Wouldn't say it was a special performance but he bagged himself 2 assists regardless. 

 

 

28 minutes ago, FIF said:

He must've given away at least 3 passes at the beginning of the game. He had a good second half though.

To Kante of all people as well .

[Guest An Sionnach]

2 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

You confuse me. 

I'll use a simpler word then - overrated .

[HighPeakFox]

Just now, An Sionnach said:

I'll use a simpler word then - overrated .

Not specifically here, just generally 

[StriderHiryu]

34 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

Youri  might just be style over substance, not sure that is a luxury we can afford.

That luxury got two assists for us today. That's 3 goals and 5 assists from our deep lying play maker whose job it is to provide the key passes - the assist to the assist if you will.

 

Similar players around Europe (league stats only):

- Toni Kroos: 2 goals, 4 assists.

- Luka Modric: 3 goals, 4 assists

- Ivan Rakitic: 0 assists, 2 goals

- David SIlva: 3 goals, 7 assists

- Marco Veratti: 0 goals, 5 assists

 

So I would argue Tielemans is a luxury we CAN afford in the team. Does he do it as consistently as we would like? No, because if he did he would not be playing for Leicester City. He is very effective for us though as is shown with these stats.

[RowlattsFox]

The problem we have is Tielemans, and and the likes of Maddison, Ndidi etc is that we have them during their developmental years, they are going to be inconsistent within games. Hopefully we still have these players when they reach their peak. No doubt we'll be watching them perform somewhere else by then. 

[st albans fox]

YT was great today .....always looking to make the quick pass which makes the difference ......it’s easy to stop the play and make an easy one.  So he will inevitably make errors ..... I’d rather have the errors and assists than 90% safe pass success ....

 

and he was all over the pitch supporting play 

 

those slagging him off can do one ...... they’d probably prefer junior lewis !

[hejammy]

2 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

YT was great today .....always looking to make the quick pass which makes the difference ......it’s easy to stop the play and make an easy one.  So he will inevitably make errors ..... I’d rather have the errors and assists than 90% safe pass success ....

 

and he was all over the pitch supporting play 

 

those slagging him off can do one ...... they’d probably prefer junior lewis !

I think most people cannot deny that the guy has an eye for a pass, I think most people's frustration for him at the moment is his lack of pace. He seems to be the slowest in the team by far (including Evans) and he wasn't this slow last year. I actually think Praet deserves his place more at the moment as he's not really put a foot wrong whilst playing for us so far this season

[st albans fox]

Just now, hejammy said:

I think most people cannot deny that the guy has an eye for a pass, I think most people's frustration for him at the moment is his lack of pace. He seems to be the slowest in the team by far (including Evans) and he wasn't this slow last year. I actually think Praet deserves his place more at the moment as he's not really put a foot wrong whilst playing for us so far this season

Neither he or Dennis have pace, especially from standing, though Dennis seems to cruise at a higher level than YT can manage 

 

that’s never going to change ....and it’s not changed from last season .....

[VLC86]

Let’s just get over the fact the bloke can’t run but has an eye for a killer pass.

 

When he ran clear in the first half I wanted to gouge my eyes out.

[Guest An Sionnach]

3 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Neither he or Dennis have pace, especially from standing, though Dennis seems to cruise at a higher level than YT can manage 

 

that’s never going to change ....and it’s not changed from last season .....

Expectations are very high with Tielemans and quite right because unlike Ben and Harvey he cost a lot of money . He never seems to dominate in midfield and part of me thinks he never will . He should be often our standout performer but he rarely is. Perhaps he never expected to play second fiddle to Maddison , do they play together well? I think the jury is out on this one.

[Reginaldo]

The state of the comments on here. Youri and Madders are the best at forward progression passes. Granted he’s not blessed with speed but he does his best to get into positions asked of him.  Did Riyad tackle well? No, but you accept that because of what he could do...he’s never been that rapid so don’t know where these comments that he had more pace last year have come from...

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

I don't think it was his lack of pace when he was through in the first half, his first touch was terrible and he was stretching because he wanted to take it in his stride but flicked it 12 feet in front of him so was scrambling to keep the ball in play.

[worthosoriginals]

2 minutes ago, Reginaldo said:

The state of the comments on here. Youri and Madders are the best at forward progression passes. Granted he’s not blessed with speed but he does his best to get into positions asked of him.  Did Riyad tackle well? No, but you accept that because of what he could do...he’s never been that rapid so don’t know where these comments that he had more pace last year have come from...

stop being sensible, crack on with hating our players

[hejammy]

1 minute ago, worthosoriginals said:

stop being sensible, crack on with hating our players

Not necessarily hate... I was just saying we should play players in form. Praet is on form and YT isn't right now. 

[st albans fox]

10 minutes ago, hejammy said:

Not necessarily hate... I was just saying we should play players in form. Praet is on form and YT isn't right now. 

Based on what ?

 

one amazing pass at Brentford ........

[hejammy]

2 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Based on what ?

 

one amazing pass at Brentford ........

Err no like I mentioned before, he's been solid whenever he's come on. His passing is really good and his tackling is better than YT. Like I said, he's not really put a foot wrong whenever he's played....oh and that amazing pass at Brentford