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Iheanacho deserves respect for difficult Leicester City role, says Brendan Rodgers

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baldeagle

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16 minutes ago, hejammy said:

I think you're missing the point. I'm not saying Barnes was better, but at least he was there. Nacho seems to be away with the fairies a lot of the time not really knowing what to do. He was poor today. Not many people will justify his lack of contribution today like you have. Perhaps there is a reason for that. 

I said Nacho was poor but my point was he made some great runs that none of the other players seen so he never got the ball . He also received the ball on numerous occasions but he had no one near him to off  load  it to .You  want to dig him out for not being in the box when only Barnes was for Unders cross  yet   he made numerous runs that other people didn’t see so surely they need digging out as well .

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hejammy

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Just now, baldeagle said:

I said Nacho was poor but my point was he made some great runs that none of the other players seen so he never got the ball . He also received the ball on numerous occasions but he had no one near him to off  load  it to .You  want to dig him out for not being in the box when only Barnes was for Unders cross  yet when  he made numerous runs that other people didn’t see so surely they need pointed out as well 

However if you watch closely, he either made his run too early or too late. Or it was impossible to get it to him. Vardy makes intelligent runs and this is what he is who he is and gets the ball. Nacho more often than not doesn't. Normally his best attribute is holding the ball up and either turning or flick it on. Neither of which he did well today. He was poor today (amongst others) and its hard to say he wasn't. It's perhaps an oxymoron to say he was poor but also say he made great runs and it wasn't his fault he didn't get the pass. 

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5 minutes ago, hejammy said:

However if you watch closely, he either made his run too early or too late. Or it was impossible to get it to him. Vardy makes intelligent runs and this is what he is who he is and gets the ball. Nacho more often than not doesn't. Normally his best attribute is holding the ball up and either turning or flick it on. Neither of which he did well today. He was poor today (amongst others) and its hard to say he wasn't. It's perhaps an oxymoron to say he was poor but also say he made great runs and it wasn't his fault he didn't get the pass. 

Comparing him to Vardy is like comparing a  Ferrari to an F1 car totally didn’t type  of players . 

 

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9 minutes ago, hejammy said:

However if you watch closely, he either made his run too early or too late. Or it was impossible to get it to him. Vardy makes intelligent runs and this is what he is who he is and gets the ball. Nacho more often than not doesn't. Normally his best attribute is holding the ball up and either turning or flick it on. Neither of which he did well today. He was poor today (amongst others) and its hard to say he wasn't. It's perhaps an oxymoron to say he was poor but also say he made great runs and it wasn't his fault he didn't get the pass. 


Very true. Vardy occupies the defence so effectively that his movement creates space for others that most people don’t see. He drags people all over. 
 

Nacho makes runs, but would he actually get on the end of any balls in behind? He’s okay playing into feet, can link up play. He can finish too, but those chances are too few and far between. 

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Just now, TamworthFoxes said:

A Ferrari and a Ford Fiesta is a more realistic comparison.

 

8 minutes ago, baldeagle said:

Comparing him to Vardy is like comparing a  Ferrari to an F1 car totally didn’t type  of players . 

 

Or a pedestrian to a rocket ship? 

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10 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said:

On another note, how many times does he throw his arms up in the air complaining lol

 

If any of us played up front for this team, we'd do the same. The strikers just aren't involved very much- Vardy's incredible stats per touch mask how little they see of the ball.

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He’s fulfilling a role which is a hard sell - play second fiddle to Vardy. That means start in cup games, maybe 2-3 PL games, & little or no  prospect of ever being the main man.

 

He isn’t, BTW, good enough to be the main man, and we, he & the club know that.

 

So he goes to the highest bidder next summer when we sign someone with a higher ceiling and a genuine potential successor to Vardy.

 

No need to make a fuss in the meantime!

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28 minutes ago, Steve Earle said:

He’s fulfilling a role which is a hard sell - play second fiddle to Vardy. That means start in cup games, maybe 2-3 PL games, & little or no  prospect of ever being the main man.

 

He isn’t, BTW, good enough to be the main man, and we, he & the club know that.

 

So he goes to the highest bidder next summer when we sign someone with a higher ceiling and a genuine potential successor to Vardy.

 

No need to make a fuss in the meantime!

lets pray Vardy stays fit then

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Compare last night to the earlier group games where Nacho scored 3 goals. 

 

Nacho plays with his back to goal, wants the ball into feet and then either turns and shoots or brings other players in. Vardy obviously plays completely differently and can afford to be a little isolated up front. In the first Braga and Zorya games Nacho played up front but Maddison and Praet were always close to him, and enabling him to link up play. 

 

Last night, everytime he got the ball or the play came forward he was isolated, because the midfield was non existent - 2 holding and Praet too deep or wide. 

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Nacho was poor last night. Nothing stuck with his hold up play and he was generally quite lethargic and sloppy all round.

 

But we know what we're going to get with Nacho in games like that were he's isolated for large portions of the game. He thrives off being involved in the build up and using his neat link up play with those around him. His brightest moment yesterday was when he won back the ball he'd lost and got away the decent snap shot which ultimately gave Maddison an opening to shot too, but beyond that not much to sing his praises for yesterday.

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1 hour ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

Compare last night to the earlier group games where Nacho scored 3 goals. 

 

Nacho plays with his back to goal, wants the ball into feet and then either turns and shoots or brings other players in. Vardy obviously plays completely differently and can afford to be a little isolated up front. In the first Braga and Zorya games Nacho played up front by Maddison and Praet were always close to him, and enabling him to link up play. 

 

Last night, everytime he got the ball or the play came forward he was isolated, because the midfield was non existent - 2 holding and Praet too deep or wide. 

Exactly. 
 

Same applies to Vardy on occasions too. Our midfield doesn’t get near enough the striker for support. Collectively we still appear to hang on the counter attack or the ball behind. 
 

Game changed in some respect with Maddison coming on doing a proper 10 role. 

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Tough role for him. Rarely gets game time so whenever he gets a chance then he's rusty. If he does play well he won't see a sniff of a league game unless we're losing by a couple of goals. If he put in the performance that Vardy did on Monday then there would be 2 or 3 pages of people saying "get rid, not good enough"

 

I think he'll be another player that ends up going to Europe and making a decent name for himself where he can play regularly. Unfortunately until Vardy leaves we'll always have the problem of a back up striker that will get rusty because they're not allowed to play.

 

Would be cool if we could go out and find a 19-21 year old like a Youri/Fofana who has massive potential and could be a worldie. Shame we didn't get involved in Haaland in summer 2019.

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His movement really lets him down. There were a number of times last night that Under or Barnes had the ball and he was static. He doesn’t seem to appreciate that he can be selfless with his runs and in doing so allow more space for others - it’s what Vardy is great at. 

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