Wilfred Ndidi

[Arriba Los Zorros]

Wow clowns in this thread claiming we should cash in on Wilf, get a grip, you'll be crying into your Bovril in 5-years time when we have a James McCarthy type in the centre of the park

[Arriba Los Zorros]

To add Wilf would be every bit as big a loss as Tielemans. Those 2 are the backbone of this side.

[volpeazzurro]

Just personally, I think that Wilf is the player we could ill afford to lose the most. Other than Kante, I don't see another like him in the Premiership and he gets us out of so many scrapes. The amount of work he gets through I can easily forgive his odd stray passes.

[filbertway]

16 hours ago, Arriba Los Zorros said:

Wow clowns in this thread claiming we should cash in on Wilf, get a grip, you'll be crying into your Bovril in 5-years time when we have a James McCarthy type in the centre of the park

I think your problem is that you genuinely still see us as a championship team that's lucking out and is fortunate to have the current crop of players

 

The options aren't Wilf or a perennial championship/bottom half prem work horse

 

[The_77]

10 minutes ago, filbertway said:

I think your problem is that you genuinely still see us as a championship team that's lucking out and is fortunate to have the current crop of players

 

The options aren't Wilf or a perennial championship/bottom half prem work horse

 

It’s not that we wouldn’t do better than McCarthy, it’s that are loads of almost every other type of player available but there are so few like Ndidi. I can’t come up with a reasonable replacement who plays like him. 

[Ric Flair]

On 14/11/2021 at 22:13, Arriba Los Zorros said:

Wow clowns in this thread claiming we should cash in on Wilf, get a grip, you'll be crying into your Bovril in 5-years time when we have a James McCarthy type in the centre of the park

We could well be heading for a situation where the spine of our successful team decide they want new challenges though and there'd precious little we can do about it if we want to maintain the necessary funds to try and compete in the top half of the PL every year.

 

As soon as Tielemans, Soyuncu, Ricardo, Ndidi and Iheanacho run their contracts down, as well as Vardy, Kasper and Evans possibly declining as nature takes its toll and their deals are up then just to replenish such players will require us to sell at decent prices and therefore we can't let them run them down otherwise we're fcuked.

 

It's a huge balancing act and the danger of having a core group of players for 3-5 years who have done very well and naturally might now be viewing the situation as the time for a fresh challenge.

 

We need to be proactive and not reactive. I'd be making huge changes this summer. Any of the above who won't sign a new deal this season can leave. 

 

[coolhandfox]

18 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

We could well be heading for a situation where the spine of our successful team decide they want new challenges though and there'd precious little we can do about it if we want to maintain the necessary funds to try and compete in the top half of the PL every year.

 

As soon as Tielemans, Soyuncu, Ricardo, Ndidi and Iheanacho run their contracts down, as well as Vardy, Kasper and Evans possibly declining as nature takes its toll and their deals are up then just to replenish such players will require us to sell at decent prices and therefore we can't let them run them down otherwise we're fcuked.

 

It's a huge balancing act and the danger of having a core group of players for 3-5 years who have done very well and naturally might now be viewing the situation as the time for a fresh challenge.

 

We need to be proactive and not reactive. I'd be making huge changes this summer. Any of the above who won't sign a new deal this season can leave. 

 

Think we have already done some of that, Daka and Soumare were definitely brought with the future in mind, as was JJ and Fofana.

 

Pretty confident we will add more in the summer.

 

May need to be more proactive on the selling side.

 

 

 

[Ric Flair]

46 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Think we have already done some of that, Daka and Soumare were definitely brought with the future in mind, as was JJ and Fofana.

 

Pretty confident we will add more in the summer.

 

May need to be more proactive on the selling side.

 

 

 

Yes, although we haven't yet recruited for the possible departures of Tielemans or Ndidi. I'd sell 5 first team players this summer if they don't commit and have a £150m + transfer budget to completely overhaul the squad. Absolutely no reason we can't be back aggressively pushing the top 7 again.

[Le Renard]

4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Yes, although we haven't yet recruited for the possible departures of Tielemans or Ndidi. I'd sell 5 first team players this summer if they don't commit and have a £150m + transfer budget to completely overhaul the squad. Absolutely no reason we can't be back aggressively pushing the top 7 again.

Has it worked for Villa this season? It doesn't seem to be the way at our club, but I can see at the end of this season there could be 2 or 3 players wanting a move.

[Stevosevic]

1 minute ago, Le Renard said:

Has it worked for Villa this season? It doesn't seem to be the way at our club, but I can see at the end of this season there could be 2 or 3 players wanting a move.

We may not have a choice. 

 

We're going to have a lot of players with 1 year left on their deals. 

[moore_94]

1 minute ago, Le Renard said:

Has it worked for Villa this season? It doesn't seem to be the way at our club, but I can see at the end of this season there could be 2 or 3 players wanting a move.

It is more likely that we just wont have a choice really

 

Amartey, Schmeichel, Bertrand, Evans, Mendy, Vardy, Pereira, Perez, Tielemans, Benkovic, Soyuncu, Choudhury all have contracts ending in 2023

 

If they don't want to re-sign, realistically you want to sell them in the upcoming January or next summer to make sure you get some money back rather than losing them for free

[WigstonWanderer]

2 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

It is more likely that we just wont have a choice really

 

Amartey, Schmeichel, Bertrand, Evans, Mendy, Vardy, Pereira, Perez, Tielemans, Benkovic, Soyuncu, Choudhury all have contracts ending in 2023

 

If they don't want to re-sign, realistically you want to sell them in the upcoming January or next summer to make sure you get some money back rather than losing them for free

There’s only really 3 there that I’d worry about. The rest are either not going anywhere, approaching the end of their careers or would be a huge loss.

[Ric Flair]

11 minutes ago, Le Renard said:

Has it worked for Villa this season? It doesn't seem to be the way at our club, but I can see at the end of this season there could be 2 or 3 players wanting a move.

Villa only sold 1 player but it does show how difficult it is replacing successful players, yet we have done it very well under Puel and Rodgers.

 

Anyway, we don't have a choice if we don't want to end up in a situation where we lose multiple players worth £50m + for free or a knock down fee and then have the nightmare of trying to replace them and not massively regress due to financial struggles. It's hard enough trying to progress year on year or at least keep on the coat tails of the top 6 without losing players on our finances, so putting ourselves in a position where we lose valuable players for a pittance simply cannot happen.

 

 

[moore_94]

2 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said:

There’s only really 3 there that I’d worry about. The rest are either not going anywhere, approaching the end of their careers or would be a huge loss.

I can see:

 

Tielemans, Pereira, and Soyuncu to not sign new deals and be sold next summer

 

Vardy, Amartey, Evans to get new deals

 

Kasper to leave in 2023 when his contract ends (after the comments that came out today)

 

Bertrand, Mendy, Benkovic, Choudhury, Perez to be sold/loaned next summer or free in 2023 if we can't get rid

 

That is a lot of squad turnover and the issue is not whether they would be a huge loss or not, but that they still need to be replaced

[StanSP]

5 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Kasper to leave in 2023 when his contract ends (after the comments that came out today)

What did he say ? 

 

[coolhandfox]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

Yes, although we haven't yet recruited for the possible departures of Tielemans or Ndidi. I'd sell 5 first team players this summer if they don't commit and have a £150m + transfer budget to completely overhaul the squad. Absolutely no reason we can't be back aggressively pushing the top 7 again.

To many for me, 1 or 2 first, plus are normal funds.

 

Move on a few squad players.

 

I think Soumare is seen as a replacement but as a different kind of midfielder.

 

He's raw but has a very high ceiling.

 

Also think the development of our own talent is key, decision to loan out Praet and give KDH more game time is telling for me

Edited 16 November 2021 by coolhandfox

[Phil Bowman]

12 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

He's raw but has a very high ceiling.

They all do these days, it’s coz they’re so rich they can afford big houses. Back in the old days footballers had the same height ceilings as ordinary folk.

[Ric Flair]

18 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

To many for me, 1 or 2 first, plus are normal funds.

 

Move on a few squad players.

 

I think Soumare is seen as a replacement but as a different kind of midfielder.

 

He's raw but has a very high ceiling.

 

Also think the development of our own talent is key, decision to loan out Praet and give KDH more game time is telling for me

The issue we've got is Tielemans, Ricardo and Soyuncu leave for free next summer and they are collectively worth well over £100m. Can just about afford to lose 1 for a knockdown fee or a free but not more.

 

Then Ndidi will only have a year left on his deal the following summer and so is worth probably £70m now or about £35m with a year to go. Iheanacho might well be the right time to cash in as well.

 

I'd sell any of them that want to leave, offer them all that option. Either be part of the next wave of success here or piss off.

[moore_94]

4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

The issue we've got is Tielemans, Ricardo and Soyuncu leave for free next summer and they are collectively worth well over £100m. Can just about afford to lose 1 for a knockdown fee or a free but not more.

 

Then Ndidi will only have a year left on his deal the following summer and so is worth probably £70m now or about £35m with a year to go. Iheanacho might well be the right time to cash in as well.

 

I'd sell any of them that want to leave, offer them all that option. Either be part of the next wave of success here or piss off.

Squad could look very different by the end of Summer 2023 if the club does this properly (not let any or as little as possible leave for free) as there aren't a lot I can see signing new deals at the moment...

 

*Amartey is wrong, is 2023

 

Edited 16 November 2021 by moore_94

[WigstonWanderer]

47 minutes ago, StanSP said:

What did he say ? 

 

https://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/kasper-schmeichel-admits-plans-to-leave-leicester-4393685

[Foxxed]

2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

The issue we've got is Tielemans, Ricardo and Soyuncu leave for free next summer and they are collectively worth well over £100m. Can just about afford to lose 1 for a knockdown fee or a free but not more.

 

Then Ndidi will only have a year left on his deal the following summer and so is worth probably £70m now or about £35m with a year to go. Iheanacho might well be the right time to cash in as well.

 

I'd sell any of them that want to leave, offer them all that option. Either be part of the next wave of success here or piss off.

We really need an uptick in results to guarantee those signatures. Tielemans has already made his decision I'd wager.

[coolhandfox]

12 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

The issue we've got is Tielemans, Ricardo and Soyuncu leave for free next summer and they are collectively worth well over £100m. Can just about afford to lose 1 for a knockdown fee or a free but not more.

 

Then Ndidi will only have a year left on his deal the following summer and so is worth probably £70m now or about £35m with a year to go. Iheanacho might well be the right time to cash in as well.

 

I'd sell any of them that want to leave, offer them all that option. Either be part of the next wave of success here or piss off.

I think Tielemans will go and we will still get a decent fee. 

 

I'm not convinced we can't get at least one Soyuncu or Riccardo to resign. Not sure they are going to have big hitters queuing up. 

 

Still have a feeling we may see Tarkowski coming here on a free in the summer, very Leicester like signing. 

 

However I think we will sell all of the 3 in the summer if they don't sign, Even if we got 100m in we aren't spending that on 3 players , maybe 4-5. 

 

I know a lot have the knives out for Rodgers, but I think we need a strong manager to steer us though the next 2.5 season as it could get bumpy

 

[Lesta2014]

1 minute ago, coolhandfox said:

I think Tielemans will go and we will still get a decent fee. 

 

I'm not convinced we can't get at least one Soyuncu or Riccardo to resign. Not sure they are going to have big hitters queuing up. 

 

Still have a feeling we may see Tarkowski coming here on a free in the summer, very Leicester like signing. 

 

However I think we will sell all of the 3 in the summer if they don't sign, Even if we got 100m in we aren't spending that on 3 players , maybe 4-5. 

 

I know a lot have the knives out for Rodgers, but I think we need a strong manager to steer us though the next 2.5 season as it could get bumpy

 

I agree with the bottom paragraph, more players making noises about leaving like kasper who hasn’t mentioned it for years, he’s either got something sorted or wants another new deal now he been made captain! Am important second half of the season coming up. Feels like another transition period brewing like when O’Neil left! 

[Leicester_Loyal]

At least one of Ricardo or Cags (More likely to be him) will sign for another 2/3 years IMO.

[NaijaFox]

On 16/11/2021 at 15:25, Lesta2014 said:

I agree with the bottom paragraph, more players making noises about leaving like kasper who hasn’t mentioned it for years, he’s either got something sorted or wants another new deal now he been made captain! Am important second half of the season coming up. Feels like another transition period brewing like when O’Neil left! 

Second half? Blimey, we're not even through the first third of the season yet...