foxfanazer Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 (edited) He's a great technical footballer no doubt, also has bags of experience. Obviously his fitness is the biggest stumbling block but on a free I'm happy with it Edited 19 February 2020 by foxfanazer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costock_Fox Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 1 minute ago, Claridge said: Great let’s give him a 20 million pound contract the in case he get better from all his injuries and improves with age I’m sure that isn’t what is being discussed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 (edited) Need to think in the longer-term with regards to signings (such as getting talented players on board and improving them over time for the club's benefit - such as Chilwell and Maddison, for example) and this type of signing doesn't really fit into this really. Edited 19 February 2020 by Wymsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post inckley fox Posted 19 February 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 19 February 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, SydenhamFox said: Leicester fans turning their noses up about Lallana have amnesia about the value that players like Huth/Albrighton/Simpson, etc., can bring. Or, alternatively, they've looked at the sort of high profile spent talent other clubs have brought in when their careers seem to have taken a dive, and remembered how much we felt like we'd got it right by investing in the future under Puel, or previously under Walsh/Pearson. That this was the model for a club that wanted to build assets, and build an improving squad that could punch above its weight. This policy, successfully executed, has been the basis of our success this season more than even Rodgers. Or they've looked at our squad and wondered whether he adds that much-needed robustness and pace, or whether he's truly an upgrade on Albrighton (who was 8 years younger than Lallana when he signed, by the way!). Or they've remembered all of the more experienced signings who haven't worked out down the years for us, even though we've felt sure that they'd add plenty to our squad. The 'cheap and cheerful' swathes of players who joined up under Adams, for starters. Or maybe even they've looked at Rodgers and Congerton's acquisitions elsewhere and how they've frequently been far off what their clubs needed. And how, as of yet, even their signings for us haven't exactly taken off. There's no reason, really, to keep the faith in that department. Of course he deserves our full support if he comes. And there's no doubt that he's had pedigree, and that our squad will need padding (even though some of our past successful team builders have scoffed at the idea of signing 'filler') if we do make top 4. And it's obviously wrong to turn our noses up at familiar players in favour of guys we only know off Youtube, or to deny that a little more experience might help. However experience has tended to work for us when it plugs an obvious and important gap: almost a squad-wide top flight lack of experience in 2014; defensive frailty and naivety in early 2015, or an imminently expiring CB stalwart in 2017 at a time when we'd already set out our stall for the future with two long-term projects. Without seeing who else comes in or who goes out it's hard to know what gap Lallana fills, and when we've brought in veterans as 'padding' in the past it's tended to be little more than a case of 'there's a stack of cash we'll never see again'. The scary thing is, it feels like exactly the change of tack a lot of people had feared from Rodgers and Congerton. Short-termist, high profile, unimaginative, and with all the hallmarks of a costly, ineffective squad member. Edited 19 February 2020 by inckley fox 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose2010 Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 8 minutes ago, Claridge said: Great let’s give him a 20 million pound contract the in case he get better from all his injuries and improves with age not exactly what i saying mate was it. Nothing wrong with a 1 year contract with a opton of a second depending on a few things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royston. Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 (edited) Its a no from me. Could be 'useful' if fit in a squad back up roll* for next season but will want too much money for that. *That was intentional Edited 19 February 2020 by Royston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitlock Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 5 minutes ago, Wymsey said: Need to think in the longer-term with regards to signings (such as getting talented players on board and improving them over time for the club's benefit - such as Chilwell and Maddison, for example) and this type of signing doesn't really fit into this really. I think its all about balance and I don't think by us potentially signing Lallana that means we're throwing out the window our recent transfer policy. He is an experienced technical player and definitely think he will be an asset for us, adding some more depth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 (edited) I wouldn't want him to be our only attacking signing this summer but I'd take him. Depending on wage, contract length etc obviously. He can play in a few positions, experienced premier league and European player. Him and an exciting talented wide player would do me. Edited 19 February 2020 by RowlattsFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythyaar Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 No brainer if he stays fit. Big if though based on the last 5 years of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vardinio'sCat Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 (edited) It's worth bearing in mind that there is almost certainly going to be a pay to play element to any offer. With his recent injury record anything else would be risky. I'd take him, but we do need some extra height and physicality at some point over the summer as well. Edited 19 February 2020 by Vardinio'sCat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xen Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 (edited) Apparently his current salary is £110k/wk. Given his age he'll be lucky to get half of that anywhere he goes. So worst case scenario say he gets a £50k/wk salary over a 2year contract with option for a year, that'll cost us about £7.5m maximum. £7.5m wouldn't even be enough to take a punt on a promising league one youngster nowadays - let alone pay for their wages thereafter. Pure speculation, but wouldn't be surprised if we offered him something like a 1-year contract on £30k/wk with a 1-year option, and with a view to doing his coaching badges with us. Edited 19 February 2020 by Xen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claridge Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 9 minutes ago, goose2010 said: not exactly what i saying mate was it. Nothing wrong with a 1 year contract with a opton of a second depending on a few things Absolute zero chance his advisors Would accept that though is there. With all the costs, involved it would easily be a a 20 million deal which I don’t think is worth taking. Then again if Rodgers thinks it is, then fine, he is the manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trav Le Bleu Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 2 hours ago, Izzy said: I know what you mean but we haven't exactly had much success recently with 'experienced' midfielders.. Silva, Iborra, Inler spring to mind... Cambiasso... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cujek Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 how anyone could bemoan this transfer is beyond me, lets hope it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 10 minutes ago, Xen said: Apparently his current salary is £110k/wk. Given his age he'll be lucky to get half of that anywhere he goes. So worst case scenario say he gets a £50k/wk salary over a 2year contract with option for a year, that'll cost us about £7.5m maximum. £7.5m wouldn't even be enough to take a punt on a promising league one youngster nowadays - let alone pay for their wages thereafter. Pure speculation, but wouldn't be surprised if we offered him something like a 1-year contract on £30k/wk with a 1-year option, and with a view to doing his coaching badges with us. Sorry mate but i think you've made a post from 20 years ago …….. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 1 hour ago, ealingfox said: Wouldn't a better way to do this be to sign players who are better than what we have and put the current ones on the bench? Who said anything about throwing money at the bench? So, who would you like to see us sign that would see Maddison or Tielemans dropped to the bench for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseFox Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 can't pinpoint the exact moment he became a massive bell end but for that reason i'm out. not even a good type of "yeah but he's our bellend". he's just a pri ck. this view may change upon signing him if he turns out to be really good at footy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 1 hour ago, ealingfox said: Wouldn't a better way to do this be to sign players who are better than what we have and put the current ones on the bench? Who said anything about throwing money at the bench? So, who would you like to see us sign that would see Maddison or Tielemans dropped to the bench for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inckley fox Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 9 minutes ago, Cujek said: how anyone could bemoan this transfer is beyond me, lets hope it happens. There are lots of really good reasons: What's worked for us in the recent past. What didn't work for us in the more distant past. What hasn't worked for other teams (see West Ham). The fact that it's Rodgers and Congerton making the call with their patchy track record. And, of course, Lallana's past two seasons of form, and age. And wages. It could well work out - and we can easily come up with a list of reasons why - but the question marks are good question marks with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 Not that keen on Lallana but one positive is that it’ll free up our budget to sign a CB like Demiral and two wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 A three man midfield in Teilemans, Maddison and Ndidi with Praet, Llalana and Hamza as cover..... Sounds decent enough to me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cujek Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 1 minute ago, inckley fox said: There are lots of really good reasons: What's worked for us in the recent past. What didn't work for us in the more distant past. What hasn't worked for other teams (see West Ham). The fact that it's Rodgers and Congerton making the call with their patchy track record. And, of course, Lallana's past two seasons of form, and age. And wages. It could well work out - and we can easily come up with a list of reasons why - but the question marks are good question marks with this one. the guy is a class act, injuries aside which have crocked him a fair bit. he is exactly the type of player we should have in the squad and on his day is a world beater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Fox Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 8 minutes ago, Shane said: Not that keen on Lallana but one positive is that it’ll free up our budget to sign a CB like Demiral and two wingers. I’ve never liked him but from a footballing perspective it’s a decent enough signing. We need more players, we’ll be shifting some too. From a business perspective it’s clever. We gain a midfielder, one who’s PL proven, on a free transfer. Freeing up funds for other positions. Yes, of course we could go for a younger prospect, but again that’s a risk. Regarding his injuries... I’d be confident that we won’t offer him a contract if his fitness is a major doubt. If he’s not fully fit when we sign him, it could be performance based. Obviously that isn’t ideal for him, but he won’t be getting offers that are too much better elsewhere if he’s not fit/healthy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out Foxed Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 17 minutes ago, Cujek said: the guy is a class act, injuries aside which have crocked him a fair bit. he is exactly the type of player we should have in the squad and on his day is a world beater. definitely not a class act he was an absolute **** earlier in the season. if he joins i want Soyuncu to give him a slap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 Be a great signing if we can keep him fit. Give him a years contract if he'll accept it with an optional extension. Uses both feet, technical, plays across midfield. Will score a couple goals. People turning their noses up are the same who say "why are Huddersfield fans turning their noses up at King, a PL winner". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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