Guest SO1 Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 16 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: He will not be coming here as back up, that's what you all need to remember. The chances of us getting another winger will be remote too. I don't understand what makes you think that. Competition for places in the squad doesn't cease just because Adam Lallana walks in the door. And why do you think we won't be getting another attacking player(winger). I somewhat feel your pain but ultimately trust the manager to know what he's doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 Started 9 league games over the last 3 seasons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXSE Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 14 minutes ago, Stadt said: Started 9 league games over the last 3 seasons Should be fresh 😄 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxed Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 I’d rather us throw an academy kid in the first team for the sheer unpredictable hell of it all, but adam fits all the hallmarks of an uninspiring Bren signing, let’s face it. Is the player available? Is he okay but nothing special? Will it fill the ranks without dramatically improving them? Then bren’s chequebook is already open. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox of WA Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 Why can’t we get someone like St. Maximin? He’d be less expensive, hungrier, more physical, and when he plays, even if he’s not scoring, Newcastle does much better. That’s what we need to keep Vardy in the game more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucey Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 17 minutes ago, Fox of WA said: Why can’t we get someone like St. Maximin? He’d be less expensive, hungrier, more physical, and when he plays, even if he’s not scoring, Newcastle does much better. That’s what we need to keep Vardy in the game more. Because Newcastle would ask £50m+ for him or they aren’t selling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munshi Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, MPH said: played more in those 3 years than iheancho hasn’t he? and he’s the new messiah, apparently! Besides, West Ham don’t have the management structure that we have. What’s that got to do with anything? Comparing a 23 year old striker who has his best years ahead of him and has performed every time he’s been called on this season to someone whose barely played in the past few years due to injury and not being good enough? Lets face it, Lallana is a shit version of Maddison and is the opposite of who we should be going for. Edited 19 February 2020 by Munshi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collymore Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, FOXSE said: Should be fresh 😄 You joke but that is actually a great thing at his age. Look what the rigours of constant football did to Owen and Rooney's body! Edited 19 February 2020 by Collymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALC Fox Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 (edited) Good backup and improves the overall quality of the squad (but not the first XI). Provides an extra bit of guile if we need to pick the lock against teams that sit back. He's a replacement for Maddison or one of the wingers if they're tiring in games. For the right amount of money, he's worth the risk in my opinion. He's not 36 or 37. Yes he's had injuries but he could be a good squad player for a season or two. Edited 19 February 2020 by ALC Fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paninistickers Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 8 hours ago, Mark said: Concerns me too, no player they've brought in has improved us yet taking away Tielemans who the prevoious regime brought in. It seems like the only way we could get Rodgers was for Congerton to follow him here but Macia was high profile with contacts in Europe to enable these type of signings. I never thought I'd hear myself saying this, but I suspect and I'm reassured that Rudkin has a vice like grip over transfers. Congerton will, after all, be reporting him. Current first xi players down to Rudkin must be Soyuncu, Evans, Maddison, Wilf. Plus, in a way, Chilly too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliall Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 9 hours ago, Izzy said: I know what you mean but we haven't exactly had much success recently with 'experienced' midfielders.. Silva, Iborra, Inler spring to mind... am i right in thinking none of those played in the premier league before? i think lallana is less of a risk in that respect. He'll be a good backup for madisson or teilemans i reckon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest An Sionnach Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 Goes to Southampton,they make him captain again, plays every match. He has his Champions league medal and premiership medal coming up so Europe not so important. Only money would change that but we shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicesterpool Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 I can imagine for Lallana he'd want to join before the summer inorder for at least give him a chance to be considered for the England squad come the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 9 hours ago, ealingfox said: Ffs. No ambition whatsoever. If we allow him to Congerton is going to see us go the same way as Sunderland and Hamburg. We cant just be signing kids, the team needs balance, experience. I am glad the manager has recognised that. I expect if foxestalk was the management team, our first team would have an average age of 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacnah Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 9 hours ago, StriderHiryu said: These are my thoughts too. Plus he's worked with Brendan Rodgers before, who got the best out of him. Might even help Maddison improve some aspects of his game with his experience too. Negatives are his age, his wage demands, lack of resale value and that he's a bit injury prone. But you could have labelled all of those things at the last player over 30 we signed - Jonny Evans, who is arguably our player of the season thus far. If he comes on a two year deal on reasonable wages / sign on fee then it seems like a sensible move. I'd imagine the total deal could be somewhere around the 15m mark; that's inclusive of signing on fee plus wages for two whole seasons. If you look at it that way, that's good business considering to sign a similar player it might cost 15m without taking into account a signing on fee or wages (though a younger player does have resale value). At the end of the day it's a way to boost the depth of the squad without spending crazy amounts of money. I would imagine bigger bucks will be spent on more forward players in the summer, and we want to make sure we have the money available to do that. not sure there is much arguing tbf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_favourite Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 Not an awful signing, but not an inspiring one. Would prefer to stick to signing young talented players policies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 5 hours ago, Ric Flair said: He's barely played in 3 years, it's a huge risk. These sorts of signings seldom work and are the exact sort of signings West Ham make and fail with. every signing is a risk whether the player is 22 or 32. You dont want risks, then you in the wrong sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxtonfox Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 Good player and an intelligent one, get him in. I think he would compliment what we have and he's a Brendan type of player. We wouldn't have been able ot get him 4 years ago but now he would come to us for Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJB-fox Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 Similar signings in recent years. To a less expensive extent. Nobby Solano Kevin Phillips Wasilewski Cambiasso Mark Schwarzer All done ok. Sure there’s a few more I can’t think of off the top of my head. Not a huge fan of Lallana personally but the club does have a history of this type of signing. Experienced to some, over the hill to others. Doesn’t neccessarily mean the whole transfer policy of the club is going out the window. You can’t keep signing young foreign lads and expecting them to be world beaters. Every squad needs balance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 2 hours ago, Stadt said: Started 9 league games over the last 3 seasons And how many of our starting 11 would get a sniff on this Liverpool side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 Rodgers didnt leave on the best terms with AL at Liverpool I'm sure all is fine though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FantasticMrFox&Son Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 Can't understand the negativity surrounding our initial approach. So, who is a BETTER free transfer ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamafox Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 Thought he was still in his 20's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyfin Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 9 hours ago, An Sionnach said: Would have thought return to Southampton is his best bet. We have plenty of cover in his position and K. D. H. to come back Will never play for our first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 19 February 2020 Share Posted 19 February 2020 32 minutes ago, TJB-fox said: Similar signings in recent years. To a less expensive extent. Nobby Solano Kevin Phillips Wasilewski Cambiasso Mark Schwarzer All done ok. Sure there’s a few more I can’t think of off the top of my head. Not a huge fan of Lallana personally but the club does have a history of this type of signing. Experienced to some, over the hill to others. Doesn’t neccessarily mean the whole transfer policy of the club is going out the window. You can’t keep signing young foreign lads and expecting them to be world beaters. Every squad needs balance. Sort of agree but in each case the context of those signings are considerably different to where we find ourselves now and (bar Cambiasso who you'd fancy was on a reasonable whack and was signed for the first team) cheap, while being happy to take a backseat role. We have a higher ceiling now and this just feels a bit underwhelming. Lallana was excellent for Southampton and has been good for Liverpool (moreso in his first three seasons there), there's no doubt, but it's just a bit flat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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