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Posted

A Norwich defender's arm knocks the ball onto attacker Kelechi Ienacho's arm.  No offence committed by the defender.   Kelechi scores.  Handball because he is the attacker.

 

Previously,  Kevin de Bruyne redefines what is a natural position for hands to be in.

Posted
2 minutes ago, majaco said:

A Norwich defender's arm knocks the ball onto attacker Kelechi Ienacho's arm.  No offence committed by the defender.   Kelechi scores.  Handball because he is the attacker.

 

Previously,  Kevin de Bruyne redefines what is a natural position for hands to be in.

I suspect the law makers hadn’t considered this occurring when they came up with it ....

Posted

If somebody could explain the following points then I'll accept the (imaginary) hand ball rule:

 

1. If Nachos was handball (without interference with play) why was De Bruyne not handball last week. 

2. The ball hit a Norwich arm first - where is our free kick? 

Posted
4 minutes ago, SecretPro said:

If somebody could explain the following points then I'll accept the (imaginary) hand ball rule:

 

1. If Nachos was handball (without interference with play) why was De Bruyne not handball last week. 

2. The ball hit a Norwich arm first - where is our free kick? 

The rules are, any team on the attack where the ball brushes the hand/arm means any goal scored there after is ruled out. It only applies to the attacking side.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

The rules are, any team on the attack where the ball brushes the hand/arm means any goal scored there after is ruled out. It only applies to the attacking side.

Then that rule needs a massive MASSIVE change. Basically, the defending team, aka De Bruyne in the box with his hands in an unnatural position and blocking a shot on goal can do whatever the **** they like?

Posted
30 minutes ago, TheUltimateWinner said:

Who gives a **** we should’ve beaten Norwich they’re shite 

And we were worse.

 

Personally I don't think Norwich are a bad team, i've said it before tonight, however they can't score or defend but we're Leicester City and we are the perfect team to play when you've got such problems.

Posted
4 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

If it actually touched his arm then no complaints but when I saw the replay it didnt even look like it had.

Afraid it did 

 

the law needs a tweak ...... by the letter of the law, it was attacking handball in the event of a goal .... I think the law will be changed .....

Posted

So people are saying we should have lost 1st game of the season then? Or was that one ok to be disallowed because it worked in our favour.

 

Like it or not to the current rules it was corrected disallowed.

 

Posted

Two handballs in the same incident, neither intentional or deliberate yet one is penalised and the other isn't.

 

VAR isn't in the game and that rule isn't, I reckon. The ref would've probably called it even and played on.

Posted

I have no issue with that handball as VAR only checks handball when a goal is scored. If Nacho hadn't handballed it then VAR would have given us the advantage and allowed the goal even if the Norwich player handballed it. 

 

The frustrating thing with VAR is the lack of consistency. Why some things are checked and other things aren't like the De Bruyne handball last week is frustrating. 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Corky said:

Two handballs in the same incident, neither intentional or deliberate yet one is penalised and the other isn't.

 

VAR isn't in the game and that rule isn't, I reckon. The ref would've probably called it even and played on.

I agree, if their player touches the ball with the arm into the attacking players hand then it shouldn’t be handball... shouldn’t have been cancelled out. However we were loss poor today and deserved to lose 

Posted
59 minutes ago, majaco said:

A Norwich defender's arm knocks the ball onto attacker Kelechi Ienacho's arm.  No offence committed by the defender.   Kelechi scores.  Handball because he is the attacker.

 

Previously,  Kevin de Bruyne redefines what is a natural position for hands to be in.

Watching it again the defender tried to elbow the ball away from Nacho that’s how it fell onto Nachos arm The defender intended to use his arm to move the ball away from the attacker but the attacker was penalised, I don’t even think the FA or Premier League know how to implement there own rules?
The conspiracy theorists are going to town on the rigged VAR for the old school Top 5 teams ??

Posted

Absolute joke that! Before VAR the advantage used to be given to the striker in the event of a ball to hand situation. 

 

If he was defending, then that would have been no handball as his hand is in a natural position and the ball clearly rebounds onto him, ball to hand. 

 

So why the hell would it be different in this circumstance. 

 

I feel VAR is being used to aid larger clubs. That irritates me. VAR has cost us a semi cup final, and at least 6 points in the 2 months. 

 

"We can't have too many Leicester City stories." 

Posted
5 minutes ago, Foxhateram said:

Absolute joke that! Before VAR the advantage used to be given to the striker in the event of a ball to hand situation. 

 

If he was defending, then that would have been no handball as his hand is in a natural position and the ball clearly rebounds onto him, ball to hand. 

 

So why the hell would it be different in this circumstance. 

 

I feel VAR is being used to aid larger clubs. That irritates me. VAR has cost us a semi cup final, and at least 6 points in the 2 months. 

 

"We can't have too many Leicester City stories." 

Yeah Norwich are a bigger club than us to be fair...

Posted
2 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

Yeah Norwich are a bigger club than us to be fair...

Where the hell have I said that? Us losing points helps the bigger club, no matter who we're playing. 

Posted
28 minutes ago, Matt said:

So people are saying we should have lost 1st game of the season then? Or was that one ok to be disallowed because it worked in our favour.

 

Like it or not to the current rules it was corrected disallowed.

 

I think they need to use Common sense and judge each case individually. For instance the handball against us in the Wolves game if I remember correctly handed them a huge advantage by the ball hitting the attackers arm... In regards to Nachos goal the tiny flick of the ball on his hand (after it hit the defenders arm btw) gave him no advantage at all.

 

as the rule stands it gives the officials an easy decision... I bet the pussy refs love this rule!

Posted

The ref didnt give the handball, so without VAR I think it would have been a goal.

 

VAR has been very strange for us in the past 2 months on handballs,very inconsistent, one week accidental is ok, another week it isnt, deliberate is ok for the opposition, but probably not for us.

 

It is as if someone doesnt want us to make the CL.

Posted

It's a load of utter shit, also get a bit fed up of people absolving VAR of blame in this - this rule was brought in to supplement VAR so it's an issue indirectly caused by VAR.

 

If VAR has done one thing good though it's really exposed some of the absolute amateurs officiating the game. The officials are either corrupt or just astoundingly inept.

Posted
8 hours ago, Matt said:

And we were worse.

 

Personally I don't think Norwich are a bad team, i've said it before tonight, however they can't score or defend but we're Leicester City and we are the perfect team to play when you've got such problems.

Get the violins out

Posted
3 hours ago, Chrysalis said:

The ref didnt give the handball, so without VAR I think it would have been a goal.

 

VAR has been very strange for us in the past 2 months on handballs,very inconsistent, one week accidental is ok, another week it isnt, deliberate is ok for the opposition, but probably not for us.

 

It is as if someone doesnt want us to make the CL.

That's because it's still a human making the decision. Different people, different opinions and takes on the laws of the game. It shouldn't be, granted, but that's just human nature. 

 

I think unfortunately as the law stands, it was handball. But at the same time so was KDB one that wasn't given...and that was more clear cut. Technology isn't the problem it's the people who use it, as its only as good as the end user. 

 

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