League Suspended.

[hejammy]

21 hours ago, Staffs Fox said:

I just do not see how another season can start without concluding this one regardless of when that will be.

 

We are in an unprecedented time and people are acting like if this season was scrapped, we’d start again in August as if nothing has happened. Who knows when we’ll properly be able to start playing again. So why scrap this one when there’s no certainty about the next one?? I feel for the leagues who have already been scrapped so early on. Don’t see any sense in it 

Exactly, much rather see how it goes and the if the ability to restart the season happens in August or whenever then just play out the rest of 2019/20 season and cancel 2020/21 season surely makes more sense. Possibly not financially but certainly in terms of fairness. Then just play perhaps the cup competitions for the remainder of the season. 

[Strokes]

32 minutes ago, hejammy said:

Exactly, much rather see how it goes and the if the ability to restart the season happens in August or whenever then just play out the rest of 2019/20 season and cancel 2020/21 season surely makes more sense. Possibly not financially but certainly in terms of fairness. Then just play perhaps the cup competitions for the remainder of the season. 

Personally I think we should commit to playing the 19/20 season. Then put contingency plans in place to make 20/21 a half season, played neutral grounds one match against each team.

[leicesterseddon]

8 hours ago, Sampson said:

People are clutching now.

 

There's no chance the 2020-21 season will happen let alone finish this season.

 

They'll try it behind closed doors for a couple of weeks and the inevitable will happen and a player, backroom staff or match official will test positive and it will collapse straight away.

 

We should just accept they'll be no football until a vaccine can be mass produced which is likely 18 months away.

If we wait 18 months before resuming there won’t be anything left to resume because clubs will go to the wall.

 

Best hope for football is the inevitable societal shift away from ‘defeating’ the virus to accepting we have to live with it until a vaccine is found. 

[Bayfox]

1 hour ago, Strokes said:

Personally I think we should commit to playing the 19/20 season. Then put contingency plans in place to make 20/21 a half season, played neutral grounds one match against each team.

For whatever integrity that is left in football. UEFA should commit to finishing all European leagues.

The 20/21 season should then be worked out.

 

Personally for the sake of 1 year, I would sack off the domestic cup competitions, with solidarity payments made to the lower league clubs that need the revenue from them.

 

Although it's not ideal, with the world cup being held in winter in 2022, there is room to manoeuvre in terms of having a condensed or extended season during either 20/21 or 21/22

 

Although I accept that this season is likely to be concluded behind closed doors, by then we will be in August. Sept, then we may know a little more about, the virus, vaccinations etc, I dont know how the clubs then manage events but this obsession people have with voiding the season just has no satisfactory outcome for anyone really.

Edited 18 April 2020 by Bayfox

[Strokes]

42 minutes ago, Bayfox said:

For whatever integrity that is left in football. UEFA should commit to finishing all European leagues.

The 20/21 season should then be worked out.

 

Personally for the sake of 1 year, I would sack off the domestic cup competitions, with solidarity payments made to the lower league clubs that need the revenue from them.

 

Although it's not ideal, with the world cup being held in winter in 2022, there is room to manoeuvre in terms of having a condensed or extended season during either 20/21 or 21/22

 

Although I accept that this season is likely to be concluded behind closed doors, by then we will be in August. Sept, then we may know a little more about, the virus, vaccinations etc, I dont know how the clubs then manage events but this obsession people have with voiding the season just has no satisfactory outcome for anyone really.

If they draw up a half season as a contingency, it takes off the pressure of finishing this season too soon. A half season could theoretically start as late as January, meaning this season could wait until as late as November.

Those starting the new season would know the rules before it starts, preventing any later legal challenges about potential loss of earnings.

[Strokes]

I don’t think we will see any European football take place in 2020. This season champions league, Europa league will most likely wait until towards the end of the 20/21 season.

[Guest Eamonn]

8 minutes ago, Strokes said:

If they draw up a half season as a contingency, it takes off the pressure of finishing this season too soon. A half season could theoretically start as late as January, meaning this season could wait until as late as November.

Those starting the new season would know the rules before it starts, preventing any later legal challenges about potential loss of earnings.

Much as i like this elegant solution,  i think the TV companies would scupper it. Fewer matches and a shorter season means less income for them. I reckon behind closed doors matches are more likely,  including next season if the virus starts to peak again.

[Strokes]

14 minutes ago, Eamonn said:

Much as i like this elegant solution,  i think the TV companies would scupper it. Fewer matches and a shorter season means less income for them. I reckon behind closed doors matches are more likely,  including next season if the virus starts to peak again.

Possibly, external pressures and finances will dictate to a point. If they move too early and a player or players family gets seriously ill, it may get taken out of their hands.

[Paninistickers]

17 minutes ago, Eamonn said:

Much as i like this elegant solution,  i think the TV companies would scupper it. Fewer matches and a shorter season means less income for them. I reckon behind closed doors matches are more likely,  including next season if the virus starts to peak again.

Not if they get their quota of matches. 

 

If sky have a deal for 125 matches per season - average 3 per weekend - then that could  still be accommodated but with 6 games broadcast per weekend. BT get 2, Amazon 1 and give or take, the league has fulfilled its obligations for the TV deals

Edited 18 April 2020 by Paninistickers

[Strokes]

5 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Not if they get their quota of matches. 

 

If sky have a deal for 125 matches per season - average 3 per weekend - then that could  still be accommodated but with 6 games broadcast per weekend. BT get 2, Amazon 1 and give or take, the league has fulfilled its obligations for the TV deals

They could also over compensate with the remaining games this season.

[Paninistickers]

3 minutes ago, Strokes said:

They could also over compensate with the remaining games this season.

I reserve the right to withdraw my support for the half season option should City endure a rough start and lose the first 3 or 4

[Lionheart10]

They reckon this will come again 3 or 4 more times in the next 12 months so can't see any mass gatherings happening in that time.Maybe we could resume this season in 12 months time and then start the next as normal in Aug. 2021.

[Bert]

Tv companies won’t have the season starting any later than September. Money makes the world go round. This is what’ll push the decision on the new season which inevitably leads to this season being rushed through behind closed doors. 

[dsr-burnley]

11 hours ago, Sampson said:

People are clutching now.

 

There's no chance the 2020-21 season will happen let alone finish this season.

 

They'll try it behind closed doors for a couple of weeks and the inevitable will happen and a player, backroom staff or match official will test positive and it will collapse straight away.

 

We should just accept they'll be no football until a vaccine can be mass produced which is likely 18 months away.

They don't close Tesco if one of the backroom staff tests positive.  Would they close a football club?

[Strokes]

16 minutes ago, dsr-burnley said:

They don't close Tesco if one of the backroom staff tests positive.  Would they close a football club?

Err maybe because football is not essential.

[st albans fox]

33 minutes ago, Strokes said:

Err maybe because football is not essential.

I think a middle ground is relevant 

 

the resumption of the season is predicated on availability of testing and the demands of the clubs cannot interfere with the needs of the wider community - if we have 100k/day availability then I guess can be ok - there is the option for the clubs to purchase testing machines and administer the testing themselves 

 

 

[Leeds Fox]

8 hours ago, st albans fox said:

You underestimate the amount of testing that will be available by then.  To me, the question is more about the product behind closed doors. Whilst we will put up with that to get this campaign finished, going forwards, is that really ‘football’ as we all know and love it ???? With no atmosphere, the tv companies will begin to lose audience. I can see problems into next season if we are still behind closed doors as the experience of this June/July will expose this for what it is - NO PASSHUNNN! 
 

seriously, I can imagine the tv companies playing background crowd noise to compensate ! 

I think it’ll be the opposite. The audience will be as big as ever, it’s the only way people will be able to watch football.

 

People will have missed it a massive amount and will be stuck at home if pubs etc aren’t open and want something to break the monotony.   

[st albans fox]

3 minutes ago, Leeds Fox said:

I think it’ll be the opposite. The audience will be as big as ever, it’s the only way people will be able to watch football.

 

People will have missed it a massive amount and will be stuck at home if pubs etc aren’t open and want something to break the monotony.   

 I agree with you at the outset but I question whether after a few games with no atmosphere, games will only be watched by fans of the two teams involved .... I watched a few games from Europe before the lockdowns and they were so unwatchable without any fans ....

[Guest MattP]

That's the problem. Croatia v England without a crowd was dreadful and I switched over by the end.

 

I'll watch Leicester obviously but no chance am I sitting through Burnley v Watford behind closed doors.

[Leeds Fox]

12 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

 I agree with you at the outset but I question whether after a few games with no atmosphere, games will only be watched by fans of the two teams involved .... I watched a few games from Europe before the lockdowns and they were so unwatchable without any fans ....

Yeah I get that. I think it’ll depend purely on the state of a reduced lockdown. I’d definitely sit and watch football if it’s on daily if I can’t really socialise.

[The whole world smiles]

6 million people tuned in to see a virtual horse race the other day, the potential TV audience for this is massive fans or no fans.

[Strokes]

1 hour ago, MattP said:

That's the problem. Croatia v England without a crowd was dreadful and I switched over by the end.

 

I'll watch Leicester obviously but no chance am I sitting through Burnley v Watford behind closed doors.

I wonder if they could simulate an atmosphere for TV. 

[Webbo]

Can you imagine if we got to the cup final and there was no crowd?

[Fox92]

9 minutes ago, Webbo said:

Can you imagine if we got to the cup final and there was no crowd?

Would be typical Leicester. Would be even more Leicester to win it. First FA Cup final win and there's no crowd.

[Webbo]

Just now, Fox92 said:

Would be typical Leicester. Would be even more Leicester to win it. First FA Cup final win and there's no crowd.

tbf, I'd take it.

Edited 18 April 2020 by Webbo