Coronavirus Thread

[Leicester_Loyal]

30 minutes ago, Line-X said:

Odd that the opening of pubs and hospitality doesn't figure in or impact upon your "statement"? 

You've lost me?

 

EDIT: Sat here for 5 minutes trying to work out what you mean but I'm at a loss. My point was Covid will spread enough in those areas alone, so we'll continue to be in the same position for a while. I wasn't arguing for or against opening pubs or the hospitality, before you start on a tirade...

Edited 19 November 2020 by Leicester_Loyal

[whoareyaaa]

34 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

You mean you haven't shown her all your unscientific cherry picked stats and desperately biased YouTube videos made by knitting scientists that confirm it's all a load of nonsense that we don't need to be worried about? Surely if she listens to you she has absolutely nothing to be scared of?

nope her brain is mapped to believe everything the media say a bit like yourself.

[FoxesDeb]

1 minute ago, whoareyaaa said:

nope her brain is mapped to believe everything the media say a bit like yourself.

Who mapped it for her, the Deep State? When you say media, do you not include the formats you believe then? Are all 'media' to be disbelieved? Or just the ones you choose not to take any notice of? 

 

And  at I believe everything I read in the media, you have absolutely no justification for that comment, it is pure assumption on your part 

[whoareyaaa]

Just now, FoxesDeb said:

Who mapped it for her, the Deep State? When you say media, do you not include the formats you believe then? Are all 'media' to be disbelieved? Or just the ones you choose not to take any notice of? 

 

And  at I believe everything I read in the media, you have absolutely no justification for that comment, it is pure assumption on your part 

Whatever, boring.

[Guest Harrydc]

 

I agree with the scaremongering. Literally says on BBC :

 

Deaths within 28 days of a positive test for ANY REASON.

 

No one knows the true figures for dying OF Covid, or if this winter the deaths are on similar levels to previous years, as hospitals are always overwhelmed every winter. 

[FoxesDeb]

9 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Whatever, boring.

Oh come on, you can't make the statement that your mother's brain has been 'mapped' but then not go on to explain by whom? And then assert that the 'media' are not to be believed, after you've posted so much 'media' on here to try to back up your so called facts? 

 

You people would be taken so much more seriously if you could actually back up your statements, rather than posting complete nonsense, followed up when you are called up on it with drivel like 'whatever, boring' 

[whoareyaaa]

Just now, FoxesDeb said:

Oh come on, you can't make the statement that your mother's brain has been 'mapped' but then not go on to explain by whom? And then assert that the 'media' are not to be believed, after you've posted so much 'media' on here to try to back up your so called facts? 

 

You people would be taken so much more seriously if you could actually back up your statements, rather than posting complete nonsense, followed up when you are called up on it with drivel like 'whatever, boring' 

[FoxesDeb]

3 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Nice well thought out intelligent response. Really not sure why I expected anything else, tbh. 

Edited 19 November 2020 by FoxesDeb

[whoareyaaa]

Just now, FoxesDeb said:

Nice well thought out intelligent response. Really not sure why expected anything else, tbh. 

the last time I tried replying with actual scientific study you thrown back a load of newspaper links which where full of fluff and no actual data to backup anything, just put me on ignore for both our sakes, your talking rubbish. cheers.

[FoxesDeb]

Just now, whoareyaaa said:

the last time I tried replying with actual scientific study you thrown back a load of newspaper links which where full of fluff and no actual data to backup anything, just put me on ignore for both our sakes, your talking rubbish. cheers.

You will have to remind me, I really don't remember you ever posting any 'actual scientific study' Oh and you mean 'you're'. cheers.

[whoareyaaa]

Just now, FoxesDeb said:

You will have to remind me, I really don't remember you ever posting any 'actual scientific study' Oh and you mean 'you're'. cheers.

 typical. no thanks got better things to do

[Ashley]

24 minutes ago, Harrydc said:

 

I agree with the scaremongering. Literally says on BBC :

 

Deaths within 28 days of a positive test for ANY REASON.

 

No one knows the true figures for dying OF Covid, or if this winter the deaths are on similar levels to previous years, as hospitals are always overwhelmed every winter. 

You can pretty much tell when all other days have been reduced compared to previous years

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

8 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

Nice well thought out intelligent response. Really not sure why I expected anything else, tbh. 

 

Remember when you replied to quite a thought out argument by myself with the laughing emoji and said you "couldn't be bothered to waste your time" replying? This is all a bit glasshouses now, isn't it?

[FoxesDeb]

Just now, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

Remember when you replied to quite a thought out argument by myself with the laughing emoji and said you "couldn't be bothered to waste your time" replying? This is all a bit glasshouses now, isn't it?

Well, no, not really. From what I remember you didn't post a 'well thought out argument', just a load of moaning points about what the Government have done wrong, in your opinion. Possibly not wrong, but hardly a well thought out argument 

 

This bloke literally expects us all to believe that his mother's brain has been mapped 

[CosbehFox]

Possibly not wrong, 😂😂

[Finnaldo]

11 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

Well, no, not really. From what I remember you didn't post a 'well thought out argument', just a load of moaning points about what the Government have done wrong, in your opinion. Possibly not wrong, but hardly a well thought out argument 

 

This bloke literally expects us all to believe that his mother's brain has been mapped 

You’re right to be fair, he didn’t write a well thought out argument, he literally described the events of the last 8 months, and it was a fairly objective account of what happened. Boris missed all six COBR meetings through February: fact. Boris kept on public events through to March and shook hands with active Covid patients: fact. Boris handed the contract to Track & Trace to an MP’s wife with no experience in the field and it’s underperforming massively: fact.
 

No one ever addresses these facts or even attempts to challenge them, they ignore it or act as if it’s a stupid question until the subject changes. Then we get vague comments about how it’s ‘moaning’ or ‘purposeful negativity’ from the usual suspects.

Edited 19 November 2020 by Finnaldo

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

21 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Possibly not wrong, 😂😂

 

World class

[StanSP]

On 31/10/2020 at 21:10, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

• Failure to prepare for the looming pandemic in January and February
• Failure to lock down fast enough
• Failure to provide protective equipment for health workers
• Failure to protect care homes
• Failure to deliver an efficient test and trace system which he's slung an unqualified mate in charge of. A system the fate of the nation supposedly hinges on
• Failure to devise a plausible alternative to A-levels
• Failure to use the summer lull to prepare for the imminent second wave
• Rewarding cronies with cabinet jobs, peerages and untendered contracts
• Scapegoating scientific advisors
• U-turn after u-turn after ****ing u-turn
• Encouraged remote workers to return unnecessarily so commercial landlords had some moolah in their collective pocket

 

I'm going to leave this thread now because not only has typing that out made me unfeasibly annoyed at myself that I'm even biting at someone that this will clearly wash over – I'm also just incredibly sad the your first point of finger pointing is the public that by and large are doing their utmost to adhere to the rules under the catastrophic reign of this selfish, incompetent ****.

 

Never forget.

 

Literal facts 'possibly not wrong'  

[Super_horns]

10 hours ago, MonmoreStef said:

My family have decided the big day itself is happening. There’s normally just over 20 of us from about 7/8 houses if you count the kids who live with their other parent.  I hate the day myself, being a miserable sort who just wants to talk sport and gambling and instead the young kids take centre stage which bores me 😆. I’m holding out hope that I pick up a mild cough or cold on Xmas eve and will use the Covid as an excuse to send the Wife as our sole representative. I’ll be happy watching Netflix in peace. If it’s illegal come the day they will still be doing it. Some will think it’s madness and selfish of them but surely thee will be millions who will be the same and do what they normally do.

Probably true - let's hope they don't start to clog up the NHS with Covid cases again leading to other medical issues being forgotten about or everyone having to shut down/shield. 

Edited 19 November 2020 by Super_horns

[Samilktray]

Miquel The Possibly Not Wrong Geordie 

[Costock_Fox]

2 hours ago, Otis said:

Had a positive test result during the last 28 days but died for any reason at all.

Sorry to hear that fella, get well soon.

[String fellow]

Whilst I appreciate the point that the 500 deaths today may not all be due directly to Covid-19 and that therefore the figure may appear to be artificially inflated as a result of the way it's obtained, that figure could perhaps still be fairly accurate as a result of the deaths of other people who didn't test positive in the last 28 days, but who died as an indirect consequence of the virus, through suicide or through their NHS treatment being delayed by a reluctance to seek medical help quickly enough, or because the service itself might currently be struggling to cope in some of the worst hit areas of the country.    

[UpTheLeagueFox]

This thread.

Nobody has got a clue.

Just like politicians and scientists.

We're all pisssing in the wind, hoping for the best.

[leicsmac]

3 hours ago, FoxesDeb said:

You will have to remind me, I really don't remember you ever posting any 'actual scientific study' Oh and you mean 'you're'. cheers.

 

3 hours ago, whoareyaaa said:

 typical. no thanks got better things to do

Pardon me for weighing in on this discussion, but Hitchens had it right: "That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence".

 

As has been said on here before already, if there was any scientists who had legit proof that something wasn't being as it is said, then there would be peer-reviewed papers, not just YouTube videos, detailing such. There don't seem to be any.

[theessexfox]

4 hours ago, Harrydc said:

 

I agree with the scaremongering. Literally says on BBC :

 

Deaths within 28 days of a positive test for ANY REASON.

 

No one knows the true figures for dying OF Covid, or if this winter the deaths are on similar levels to previous years, as hospitals are always overwhelmed every winter. 

Is there any reason to think anything other than that the vast majority of deaths within 28 days of a positive test are Covid-related deaths, or is this another red herring to play down the awful figures that we are seeing every day at the moment?