Coronavirus Thread

[Tuna]

The UK is not an island, as Richard Ayoade keeps assuring us.

[Nuneatonfox in Manchester]

And still the fvcking borders are open.

[StanSP]

278,988 first doses up to and including yesterday.

862 seconds doses.

 

Total vaccinations:
First doses - 12,294,006

Second doses - 512,581

Total - 12,806,587

[Guest Col city fan]

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/local-news/eight-partygoers-fined-800-each-4978386

[Nalis]

20 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/local-news/eight-partygoers-fined-800-each-4978386

Random point but the kid in your avatar is probably in his 20s now.

[yorkie1999]

5 minutes ago, Nalis said:

Random point but the kid in your avatar is probably in his 20s now.

And plays for Everton, in goal.

[Guest Col city fan]

10 minutes ago, Nalis said:

Random point but the kid in your avatar is probably in his 20s now.

That really is random...

[Parafox]

I'm still going through the on-line learning process to complete my application to be a vaccinator. It's taken 5 weeks of submitting evidence, references, evidence of previous knowledge and experience. I have had years of experience as a front-line medic and have all of my certificates up to date in my field but, because I retired I had to remove my name from the HCP professional registration body. That means I am now seen as a non-professional person so I have to go through this laborious process as would any other retired, but previously qualified health professional. It's so long winded no wonder people decide to give up. 

I won't BTW.

There's just so much to take on. 

[Trumpet]

21 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

And plays for Everton, in goal.

Arms are still the same size.

[Nod.E]

Either other variants are worth being concerned about, or they're not.

 

If they are, shut the borders. Isolate, test and trace.

 

If they're not, I don't want to hear about it.

 

If they don't know, see option 1 until we do.

[AllGoneTitsSchlupp]

19 minutes ago, Nod.E said:

Either other variants are worth being concerned about, or they're not.

 

If they are, shut the borders. Isolate, test and trace.

 

If they're not, I don't want to hear about it.

 

If they don't know, see option 1 until we do.

this

 

dont get what we’re dicking about for (still) just shut the borders and adopt the aussie model of no one in or out, until we’ve vaccinated all of our own. can’t see how we can expect to open up and do normal life when we could have the next ‘variant’ coming in and screwing it all up 

[zorro en españa]

2 hours ago, Parafox said:

I'm still going through the on-line learning process to complete my application to be a vaccinator. It's taken 5 weeks of submitting evidence, references, evidence of previous knowledge and experience. I have had years of experience as a front-line medic and have all of my certificates up to date in my field but, because I retired I had to remove my name from the HCP professional registration body. That means I am now seen as a non-professional person so I have to go through this laborious process as would any other retired, but previously qualified health professional. It's so long winded no wonder people decide to give up. 

I won't BTW.

There's just so much to take on. 

I applaud you.  My friend has just been accepted as a vaccinator - I recognise what you are saying.

 

Thank you for sticking with it.  It must be hugely frustrating.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

The other day I think we did 780,000 tests and had about 18,000 positives. Surely the proportion of positive tests has never been lower? 

[Leicester_Loyal]

1 hour ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

The other day I think we did 780,000 tests and had about 18,000 positives. Surely the proportion of positive tests has never been lower? 

Nah was lower in the summer when we were having like 500 positive cases a day but still doing 100k or so tests.

[Ian Nacho]

Did my first ever swab test for the imperial college trial. People tell you it’s unpleasant but they don’t tell you it stinks because you have to swab the back of your throat, then up your nose with the same swab. Or maybe that’s just my bad breath

 

[whoareyaaa]

10 hours ago, AllGoneTitsSchlupp said:

this

 

dont get what we’re dicking about for (still) just shut the borders and adopt the aussie model of no one in or out, until we’ve vaccinated all of our own. can’t see how we can expect to open up and do normal life when we could have the next ‘variant’ coming in and screwing it all up 

this should have been done months ago or when we started vaccinating people

 

its pointless people being under a lockdown if we are letting people out and in of the country.

 

 

[Carl the Llama]

This is it, to my knowledge we never even started temperature checks.  The refusal to make unpopular decisions which would have had a short term impact on London's financial sector needs to be clearly remembered by every person who's fed up with their human rights being sabotaged by the virus.

[bovril]

What makes people think closing the borders will stop mutations arising? How do we know the 'South Africa' variant in the UK atm came from South Africa?

[Dunge]

26 minutes ago, bovril said:

What makes people think closing the borders will stop mutations arising? How do we know the 'South Africa' variant in the UK atm came from South Africa?

I doubt it’d stop it, but it could slow it down - which seems to be a key thing for the next few months. Yesterday’s press conference talked about the South African variant at length, with JVT saying his belief was it wouldn’t become dominant in the UK in months. The idea then is that a booster dose appears for the Oxford jab in the Autumn once it’s been developed - one that they’d be highly confident would work against the SA variant - and there’s another round of vaccinations for some. So then all that adds up to a question of keeping the SA variant under control until then.

 

That in mind, being lax over the borders does appear just that - lax. Reducing the prevalence of the SA variant now and then having a relative benefit of summer months seems like an opportunity that we’re in danger of missing. I’d be interested to know more about what the internal modelling says about these dangers; but if we do end up getting stung by the SA variant then there will certainly be questions to answer if we haven’t been tough with border restrictions.

[Dunge]

It’s worth noting as well that even the Daily Express are jumping up and down about it. And they’ve been Boris’s great cheerleaders since the start of the pandemic and beyond.

[The Quick Brown Fox]

With the rate this Virus is starting to mutate, and the different variants showing up. How likely is it that we don't end lockdown until there is no Virus present anywhere in the UK ala Australia? 

I can't see too many people sticking to the rules once the warmer months get here. 

It just seems that when there is some good news, something else comes up to kick us back down again. 

Smashing out the vaccine was great news and a real morale booster, now it's not going to be making that much of a difference because of the different variants. 

 

So frustrating. I just hope that on the 22nd Feb BJ has a clear roadmap to get us through/out of this mess.

 

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

5 minutes ago, browniefox said:

With the rate this Virus is starting to mutate, and the different variants showing up. How likely is it that we don't end lockdown until there is no Virus present anywhere in the UK ala Australia? 

I can't see too many people sticking to the rules once the warmer months get here. 

It just seems that when there is some good news, something else comes up to kick us back down again. 

Smashing out the vaccine was great news and a real morale booster, now it's not going to be making that much of a difference because of the different variants. 

 

So frustrating. I just hope that on the 22nd Feb BJ has a clear roadmap to get us through/out of this mess.

 

The goalposts are definitely moving but that's because they were the wrong goalposts in the first place. The rhetoric has moved on from protecting the health service now - by the sounds of it we're in this for a good couple of years yet and I think people are really going to struggle with that.

[Dunge]

I don’t believe the ultimate goal will be zero cases. I don’t believe the ultimate goal in Australia or New Zealand is actually zero cases, despite current measures. The ultimate goal is to have virus under control, by blocking it off with vaccinations and improved treatment as much as possible.

 

If you have zero cases but don’t have control, then it will spread again once restrictions are lifted. Zero cases at present is a way for Australia and New Zealand to keep that control artificially - I’m not saying that’s wrong for them of course but it won’t be the long term aim because it does rely on restrictions.

 

The more control we get over the virus, the fewer restrictions we’ll need. And that’ll be the way of it for months and years to come.

[The Quick Brown Fox]

16 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

The goalposts are definitely moving but that's because they were the wrong goalposts in the first place. The rhetoric has moved on from protecting the health service now - by the sounds of it we're in this for a good couple of years yet and I think people are really going to struggle with that.

I know I for one will struggle, it's bad enough now when we have the light at the end of the tunnel. For this to continue and to keep getting stretched further and further down the line. 

 

[whoareyaaa]

4 hours ago, browniefox said:

I know I for one will struggle, it's bad enough now when we have the light at the end of the tunnel. For this to continue and to keep getting stretched further and further down the line. 

 

especially when they can simply close the borders. what are they scared off.. open them up in june/july. 

 

they react way to slow its a joke as we have to put up with it they shpuld of closed borders when it first started then there wouldnt be 100000+ dead.

 

I dont undsrstand it tbh