Coronavirus Thread

[yorkie1999]

The way forward is that People should only be admitted into the country if they can prove they’ve been vaccinated. 

[Dr The Singh]

2 hours ago, st albans fox said:

You need to wait three weeks after a big change to see how hospitalisations are going. Indoor hospitality reopened two weeks ago - we’ve seen cases ease up above 3k per day  - big week upcoming ref the June 21 stuff 

Deaths are still single digit and hospitalisations are dropping.  It suggest the young and in vaxed are getting it.  All looks good to me.

[Samilktray]

4 hours ago, Matt said:

Bang on, i've been saying it all along, I know people personally and heard/read/(simply know people do it) who go for test without any symptoms, dare I say it, Hypochondriac's.

 

I say and tar them as hypochondriac's as they have previous of just being work shy or claiming illness in the past (Certainly I speak for the people I know anyway), it's as if they want the test's to turn out postive with some people.

 

If you've got symptoms fair enough, get checked out, do the right thing, but to have no symptoms and no reason to be tested for them to continually have test after test, I just don't get it.

 

Well I’ve been pondering over giving myself a week off work “isolating” before it’s too late. Got to make the most of this opportunity before we return to normal imo 

Edited 31 May 2021 by Samilktray

[z-layrex]

5 hours ago, dsr-burnley said:

I suspect A&Es are getting busier because it's the only way people have of seeing a doctor.  GPs are very hard to see nowadays.

Yeah my wife said this exact thing! (She works in public health)

[SpacedX]

5 hours ago, Matt said:

As you say that's for work reasons.

 

I said with no symptoms and no reason...

You surely realise by now that this virus is asymptomatic?

 

Actually, I learnt on this thread that it was all over months ago - so, **** it. Carry on. 

[Super_horns]

8 hours ago, Lcfc82 said:

Social distancing has got to go hasn’t it, or nothing can really change that much ?

Do people really do much of that anyway now ?

 

Particularly when outside and after being vaccinated.

 

I can see masks being worn inside but everything getting back to normal in time .

 

They seem to be worried about people who haven’t been vaccinated ending up in hospital which is fair enough I guess as no one wants to get ill but that will mainly be youngsters who were told throughout this pandemic that COVID will have next to no impact on them .

 

 

Edited 1 June 2021 by Super_horns

[z-layrex]

9 hours ago, st albans fox said:

We hope so - I think you’ll see a lack of notable increase in hospitalisations  and we will reopen on the 21st but masks indoors will stay 

We will not reopen on the 21st.

[Soup]

7 hours ago, Line-X said:

You surely realise by now that this virus is asymptomatic?

I don't doubt it is but how infections it is when being carried by an asymptomatic person?  They've used this as the big scare all along. 

 

 

[Guest Lcfc82]

5 hours ago, Super_horns said:

Do people really do much of that anyway now ?

 

Particularly when outside and after being vaccinated.

 

I can see masks being worn inside but everything getting back to normal in time .

 

They seem to be worried about people who haven’t been vaccinated ending up in hospital which is fair enough I guess as no one wants to get ill but that will mainly be youngsters who were told throughout this pandemic that COVID will have next to no impact on them .

 

 

No they probably don’t but that’s the thing that is stopping businesses operating as normal and having large crowds at events etc

[dsr-burnley]

6 hours ago, Super_horns said:

Do people really do much of that anyway now ?

 

Social distancing is what this is about.  And social distancing doesn't just mean passing 6 feet apart in the street.  social distancing means no coffee mornings, no whist drives, no community lunches, it means no social clubs for old people.  Masks means that people who rely wholly or partly on lip reading, cannot hear anyone.

 

For younger working people, social distancing can be spoken of as a minor inconvenience.  It means a lot more to some other people, so its continuance needs to be thought of as a serious matter.  (And preferably abandoned. IMO, but my point is that people who are in favour of it continuing, need to know what it means for others.)

[OrielCaziado]

Social distancing will ruin the hospitality industry if it continues to long. To think I used to hate being in overly busy pubs before all this started. I now yearn to stand three deep at a packed bar. 

[Super_horns]

I’d expect social distancing to be reduced outside at least and inside if you have been vaccinated.

 

It’s those who haven’t been there is the concern about .

[Ric Flair]

There will be chaos if they delay the lifting of all restrictions, this country is a melting pot waiting to explode. I wouldn't want to be the decision makers in this country.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

I see the "young people don't want the vaccine" crap is being banded around again. Funny that when clinics are run and offered to anyone over the ago of 18, young people queue up all day to get it, Twickenham this weekend for example. I've come across one person in 6 months under 30 that was skeptical, and he was convinced in about 5 minutes after a chat with our mate who's at medical school. 

 

The under 30s aren't the issue here but are an easy scapegoat as usual. 

[z-layrex]

21 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

There will be chaos if they delay the lifting of all restrictions, this country is a melting pot waiting to explode. I wouldn't want to be the decision makers in this country.

I mean they've been laying the foundations to delay it for a couple weeks now, it's hardly going to be a shock is it.

[The People's Hero]

7 minutes ago, z-layrex said:

I mean they've been laying the foundations to delay it for a couple weeks now, it's hardly going to be a shock is it.

The only real question mark now is whether they put another date in place?

[Ric Flair]

2 minutes ago, z-layrex said:

I mean they've been laying the foundations to delay it for a couple weeks now, it's hardly going to be a shock is it.

No it's not but that won't stop the uproar. The problem the government has is, they will struggle to keep the public on side because they won't believe them.

 

If it requires another 3 months of restrictions in place to get the majority of people double dosed and finally that ought to be enough protection to see as much of mortality as possible with the annual booster vaccinations then so be it but there's too much distrust now. Too many question marks over how much appetite the powers that be have for trying to return to normal. If the restrictions are because of of variants then we may never get out of this vicious circle, if its to let the NHS catch up then we may be waiting a long time, if it's because the vulnerable and elderly haven't all had their vaccinations then we will be waiting for hell to freeze over as there absolutely no reason for them not to have had unless they've been stuck down a well for 4 months and only just resurfaced.

 

This country has PTSD, we are in bits. We need strong leadership who can show accountability and bring back a level of trust, otherwise there's bedlam about to happen. 

[Tommy G]

A complete joke is they deviate from 21st June, the Govt will lose any form of credibility it has remaining. BJ focused on ''irreversible easing of lockdown'' and if at the final hurlde they reverse then wow.

 

The vaccination programme is so far along with all over 50s having had 2 jabs, where is the data for under 50s dying of covid? Must be minimal. The NHS never got ''overwhelmed'' during either of the 2 previous waves so why should it now with all at risk groups having being vaccinated. 

 

Completely pathetic the whole thing 

[filbertway]

@z-layrex Something I've been wondering, once you've had 2 jabs, will you be able to work without the mad amount of PPE that's been required the past 14 months or so?

[StanSP]

4 minutes ago, filbertway said:

@z-layrex Something I've been wondering, once you've had 2 jabs, will you be able to work without the mad amount of PPE that's been required the past 14 months or so?

I'd imagine they would? Having the jab doesn't make you covid-immune. And I guess they wouldn't want to pass it on to other patients if they did have covid but didn't know it? 

[filbertway]

5 minutes ago, StanSP said:

I'd imagine they would? Having the jab doesn't make you covid-immune. And I guess they wouldn't want to pass it on to other patients if they did have covid but didn't know it? 

Yeah I was wondering that, I'd want to quit the profession if that was the case though. Just have to wear all this mad PPE for an indeterminable amount of time. Although if you've lasted 12 months, maybe you're used to it.

 

Very interested to hear from the perspective of people that have had to deal with that

[dsr-burnley]

26 minutes ago, The People's Hero said:

The only real question mark now is whether they put another date in place?

Perhaps 21st June next year?  Maybe 21st June could be an annual holiday celebrating the day when we MIGHT (but won't) be allowed to go back to normal.

[leicsmac]

As an aside, I dread to think what difficulties antibiotic resistance might have for us in the future, if what has happened here is how our response to a novel disease threat plays out.

[filbertway]

2 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

As an aside, I dread to think what difficulties antibiotic resistance might have for us in the future, if what has happened here is how our response to a novel disease threat plays out.

I'm not sure if I would even be able to face getting out of bed in a morning if I worked in a scientific field. Everything seems to be so negative

 

God bless the worriers out there that make life better for us that go through life with blissful ignorance

[leicsmac]

1 minute ago, filbertway said:

I'm not sure if I would even be able to face getting out of bed in a morning if I worked in a scientific field. Everything seems to be so negative

 

God bless the worriers out there that make life better for us that go through life with blissful ignorance

Being cursed with knowledge isn't always a good thing, yeah.

 

Sadly it's the truth though - anyone vaguely experienced in the field knows there are a ridiculous amount of things that can lay us low and our responses to them are most often inadequate simply because they are abstract to folks right up to the point they're...not any more.

 

That all being said, human ingenuity in the face of survival situations is a powerful motivator and I certainly think we're up to the challenge - even more so as our mastery of science and technology increases. I'd just rather see humanity be more proactive rather than reactive to such things, as it most often costs less all round.