Coronavirus Thread

[enmac]

9 hours ago, dsr-burnley said:

How many?  And how does it compare with the number of children affected with long flu?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7927578/

[Buce]

 

 

 

 

Edited 18 July 2021 by Buce

[Edingleyfox]

It looks like vaccinating children < 16 will not take place unless they have underlying conditions. Long COVID in children is not something I had thought about

 

I have also seen (Telegraph) that COVID passports might be on the way back for sporting events over 20,000. This might help but being fully vaccinated does not ensure immunity and lateral flow tests miss mild cases. As many have said freedom day should be caution day.

 

Edited 18 July 2021 by Edingleyfox

[Sol thewall Bamba]

2 hours ago, Costock_Fox said:

Bojo and Sunak aren’t isolating after coming into contact with Javid due to participating in ‘a pilot’ that has literally been made up on the spot 😂😂😂😂

 

Yet the rest of us are expected to lose all income if it happens to us. Wow

Don't delete the app though, that makes you stupid and selfish! We're all in this together, one last push!

 

[urban.spaceman]

1 hour ago, UniFox21 said:

Please don't turn this into a who has the most rep points competition. You'll attract @urban.spaceman and @Ric Flair then we'll never hear the end of it 

Personally not all that bothered now Mark’s moved them out of sight. Out of mind etc

[Voll Blau]

 

Fvcking morons. The damage is already done. Another Tory masterstroke.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

39 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

Wow.  And where will the staff for the private facilities come from?

That’s what might stop them, as I said. To date most private work takes place of NHS sites by NHS staff - though some does not.

[MattFox]

Johnson having to spending “Freedom Day” locked down is rather fitting

[Legend_in_blue]

Ferguson now claiming we could see above 200k cases per day.  He's upped the ante this morning.

 

Current state of play:

 

 

If cases do not continue to rise at the current rate beyond Monday, do people start to question lockdown strategy?  Ferguson claims this is "the sole reason" for the decrease in the first and second waves.  There's plenty out there who disagree.

Edited 18 July 2021 by Legend_in_blue

[VLC86]

10 minutes ago, MattFox said:

Johnson having to spending “Freedom Day” locked down is rather fitting

Throw away the key and let the scruffy blancmange rot 

[Dunge]

4 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

Ferguson now claiming we could see above 200k cases per day.  He's upped the ante this morning.

 

Current state of play:

 

 

If cases do not continue to rise at the current rate beyond Monday, do people start to question the lockdown strategy?  Ferguson claims these are "the sole reason" for the decrease in the first and second waves.  There's plenty out there who disagree.

Given that the lockdowns were harder and there was a lot less virus knowledge around the populace, then Yes, absolutely lockdowns were necessary, even if there isn’t a noticeable increase from Monday. I pondered a few pages ago whether people would change their habits on Monday; if they don’t then that obviously won’t affect the graphs, whereas previous lockdown announcements have changed behaviour significantly and demonstrably.

 

ie. If you’re hoping that a minimally-changed graph from Monday will prove that lockdowns should never have happened, it won’t.

[brucey]

 

 

[UniFox21]

9 minutes ago, brucey said:

 

 

I'd hope enough people have some sort of realisation that going back to normal is a bad idea, especially with the current scenery of cases

[Leicester_Loyal]

You keep following the rules whilst the VIPs do as they please! 

[pazzerfox]

1 hour ago, Legend_in_blue said:

Ferguson now claiming we could see above 200k cases per day.  He's upped the ante this morning.

 

Current state of play:

 

 

If cases do not continue to rise at the current rate beyond Monday, do people start to question lockdown strategy?  Ferguson claims this is "the sole reason" for the decrease in the first and second waves.  There's plenty out there who disagree.

Ferguson was behind the disputed research that sparked the mass culling of eleven million sheep and cattle during the 2001 outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease. He also predicted that up to 150,000 people could die. There were fewer than 200 deaths. . . .

In 2002, Ferguson predicted that up to 50,000 people would likely die from exposure to BSE (mad cow disease) in beef. In the U.K., there were only 177 deaths from BSE.

In 2005, Ferguson predicted that up to 150 million people could be killed from bird flu. In the end, only 282 people died worldwide from the disease between 2003 and 2009.

In 2009, a government estimate, based on Ferguson’s advice, said a “reasonable worst-case scenario” was that the swine flu would lead to 65,000 British deaths. In the end, swine flu killed 457 people in the U.K.

Last March, Ferguson admitted that his Imperial College model of the COVID-19 disease was based on undocumented, 13-year-old computer code that was intended to be used for a feared influenza pandemic, rather than a coronavirus. Ferguson declined to release his original code so other scientists could check his results. He only released a heavily revised set of code last week, after a six-week delay.

So the real scandal is: Why did anyone ever listen to this guy?

[Corky]

It's the fact that originally they didn't have to self-isolate having been near a confirmed contact and had access to daily testing that grated the most when others who are deemed close contacts, show no symptoms and have no idea who has tested positive (and possibly even where it happened) still have to isolate even if they test negative.

 

It should be shit for everyone, I'm afraid.

[Ric Flair]

5 hours ago, UniFox21 said:

Please don't turn this into a who has the most rep points competition. You'll attract @urban.spaceman and @Ric Flair then we'll never hear the end of it 

I'm here for a long time, not a good time. 

[DJ Barry Hammond]

1 hour ago, pazzerfox said:

Ferguson was behind the disputed research that sparked the mass culling of eleven million sheep and cattle during the 2001 outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease. He also predicted that up to 150,000 people could die. There were fewer than 200 deaths. . . .

In 2002, Ferguson predicted that up to 50,000 people would likely die from exposure to BSE (mad cow disease) in beef. In the U.K., there were only 177 deaths from BSE.

In 2005, Ferguson predicted that up to 150 million people could be killed from bird flu. In the end, only 282 people died worldwide from the disease between 2003 and 2009.

In 2009, a government estimate, based on Ferguson’s advice, said a “reasonable worst-case scenario” was that the swine flu would lead to 65,000 British deaths. In the end, swine flu killed 457 people in the U.K.

Last March, Ferguson admitted that his Imperial College model of the COVID-19 disease was based on undocumented, 13-year-old computer code that was intended to be used for a feared influenza pandemic, rather than a coronavirus. Ferguson declined to release his original code so other scientists could check his results. He only released a heavily revised set of code last week, after a six-week delay.

So the real scandal is: Why did anyone ever listen to this guy?

The numbers you’re quoting are based on worse-case, no, or minimal intervention.

 

Criticising that these numbers were never hit is not actually a slight on Ferguson’s methods - it’s actually highlighting his success.

[Jon the Hat]

1 hour ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

The numbers you’re quoting are based on worse-case, no, or minimal intervention.

 

Criticising that these numbers were never hit is not actually a slight on Ferguson’s methods - it’s actually highlighting his success.

Oh yes I remember the SARS lockdown like it was yesterday.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

18 months into this and people are still using long lens photos of Bournemouth beach to try and vilify people who aren't breaking any rules whatsoever.

[st albans fox]

54 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

18 months into this and people are still using long lens photos of Bournemouth beach to try and vilify people who aren't breaking any rules whatsoever.

That’s the good old British press for you …..

[Adrian]

I'm gonna do a little ceremonial mask burning 

[st albans fox]

15 minutes ago, Adrian said:

I'm gonna do a little ceremonial mask burning 

Whatever floats your boat …..

[Unabomber]

34 minutes ago, Adrian said:

I'm gonna do a little ceremonial mask burning 

Jokes on you when they get reintroduced in a month 

[Adrian]

14 minutes ago, Unabomber said:

Jokes on you when they get reintroduced in a month 

Not an expensive one of course