Popular Post StanSP Posted 26 August 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 26 August 2020 1 minute ago, HankMarvin said: I'd rather listen to someone that that has played at the top level & experienced the same pressures as the games they are talking about, as opposed to someone that has played in front of Conference level attendances and that are there to fill a quota. Sometimes those 'top-level' players talk absolute shite though 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 They talk shite but they've been brilliant to watch for me. Great chemistry between them on that panel. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankMarvin Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 Just now, StanSP said: Sometimes those 'top-level' players talk absolute shite though I guess you could probably say that about anyone doing the job, If i'm gonna listen to someone talking "shite" I'd pic the person with most experience, Lots of younger ex Pros from Premier league, could do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanolegend1989 Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 5 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: I'd rather listen to someone that that has played at the top level & experienced the same pressures as the games they are talking about, as opposed to someone that has played in front of Conference level attendances and that are there to fill a quota. I agree. Im fed up of them trying soo hard to put BAME and women to tick a box. Id rather listen to ex pro's than someone just in a job because of their sex or race. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 Just now, deanolegend1989 said: I agree. Im fed up of them trying soo hard to put BAME and women to tick a box. Id rather listen to ex pro's than someone just in a job because of their sex or race. What if that ex pro is a seasoned top pro like Heskey though? Or are they just ticking a box? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 Just now, StanSP said: What if that ex pro is a seasoned top pro like Heskey though? Or are they just ticking a box? Heskey has been really good on Talksport in the last few months, really prospering as a pundit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopfkino Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 These things always need a freshen up, can't be having the same people lock others out for year and years cos some of them that fill in are alright. No idea why Merson has stayed though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankMarvin Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 1 minute ago, StanSP said: What if that ex pro is a seasoned top pro like Heskey though? Or are they just ticking a box? Think your fishing a little hard, Barnes, Wright Etc it doesn't mater if they have the experience they should get the Job 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanolegend1989 Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 1 minute ago, StanSP said: What if that ex pro is a seasoned top pro like Heskey though? Or are they just ticking a box? It doesn't bother me if the person is black or not and obviously for biast reasons Id love to see big Emile(although Id argue hes quite poor as a pundit from what Ive heard). I actually think Micah Richards has been brilliant for his 'laugh' and banter but theres no doubt hes got his job in this era to tick a box and that's contradicting what we are trying to do about 'equality'. Two wrongs don't make a right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Maul Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 7 minutes ago, Goober said: They talk shite but they've been brilliant to watch for me. Great chemistry between them on that panel. Exactly, surely absolutely nobody watches that show for analysis and info. The whole point of it is that it's (fairly) entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 1 minute ago, deanolegend1989 said: It doesn't bother me if the person is black or not and obviously for biast reasons Id love to see big Emile(although Id argue hes quite poor as a pundit from what Ive heard). I actually think Micah Richards has been brilliant for his 'laugh' and banter but theres no doubt hes got his job in this era to tick a box and that's contradicting what we are trying to do about 'equality'. Two wrongs don't make a right. No doubt? Got any evidence? 1 minute ago, HankMarvin said: Think your fishing a little hard, Barnes, Wright Etc it doesn't mater if they have the experience they should get the Job Not fishing. Just generally wonder why people get so uppity about allowing BAME people on. God forbid they get a chance to speak or prove themselves on a bigger stage. Look at the other post quoted. 'no doubt he's got his job in this era to tick a box'. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 Soccer Saturday is not really about offering opinions though, for me anyway, I guess they do if they're on from 12 but I have no idea why they do. It should be about who is able to describe what is going on, it's the football version of TMS. I actually think Sue Smith is pretty decent when she is on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfcell Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 I hardly watch it but listening to Matt Le Tissier is about as appealing as a boot to the head 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanolegend1989 Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 1 minute ago, StanSP said: No doubt? Got any evidence? Not fishing. Just generally wonder why people get so uppity about allowing BAME people on. God forbid they get a chance to speak or prove themselves on a bigger stage. Look at the other post quoted. 'no doubt he's got his job in this era to tick a box'. Over the last few years Ive seen so many more black players on the top jobs. Chris Iwulumo was on for his fantastic career was he? Saha(can barely speak English), Heskey, Richards, Evra, the list goes on. Also some terrible women pundits, Sue whatever he name is and Emma the blonde Chelsea lady, they both talk the most sense on mute. I don't believe in coincidences, they are trying to show the world by filling the quota full of BAME and women, and whilst I agree with equality, I disagree with how they are doing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankMarvin Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 1 minute ago, StanSP said: No doubt? Got any evidence? Not fishing. Just generally wonder why people get so uppity about allowing BAME people on. God forbid they get a chance to speak or prove themselves on a bigger stage. Look at the other post quoted. 'no doubt he's got his job in this era to tick a box'. But surely, if you had a list of CVs you shouldn't prioritise because of Race or a quota to fill, equally you shouldn't discriminate because of Race. Candidates should be judged on experience, otherwise don't try jump in at the deep end, and fill positions in the lower games like Tony Warner, Neil Mellor etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 All they need to do is get pundits on who are able to talk coherent sense. Not fussed if it's a man or woman, as long as they can actually talk about the game without making me want to rip off my face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Footballwipe said: Stelling next, please. It became the cosy boys club, with Jeff starting to believe his own hype and the those three becoming more and more found out with their lack of knowledge and research. Would love a UCL goals show type panel, though we know that'll never happen. Jeff with four more unresearched (and probably cheaper) ex-players incoming Stelling? His research is among the best. He's said before he waits months to get a stat out. Kamara is one of the worse. Just says stuff to get a laugh. Edited 26 August 2020 by Fox92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 2500 tickets available for Brighton v Chelsea this weekend in a trial. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 6 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: But surely, if you had a list of CVs you shouldn't prioritise because of Race or a quota to fill, equally you shouldn't discriminate because of Race. Candidates should be judged on experience, otherwise don't try jump in at the deep end, and fill positions in the lower games like Tony Warner, Neil Mellor etc But even when that is done, it's still perceived as ticking a box. Alex Scott can be really good to listen to sometimes. But she'll only get hired because it's box ticking. Even the guy above said Richards was 'brilliant' but it was box ticking. What's the way to do it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 I tell you who disappoints me? Tony Cottee. Intelligent man. Can speak intelligently and with real insight. Sit him with that mob and he's Mr Cliche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 Apparently chelsea have bought a left back ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanolegend1989 Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 To be fair, black, white, men, women. nearly every single pundit on currently talk absolute sh*t. The standard over the last few years has been as bad as ive ever seen. The 90s with Andy Gray, Richard Keys was far far better. Now its just geared towards top 6, but to an absolutely embarrassing level that's almost too biast to actually accept is allowed to be said on a supposed neutral broadcast.. They need to get more 'experts' who have had careers at Everton, Leicester, Newcastle etc rather than just ex Liverpool and Man Utd..yawn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballwipe Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 5 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Stelling? His research is among the best. He's said before he waits months to get a stat out. Kamara is one of the worse. Just says stuff to get a laugh. Let's see him tone his rants and joining in with the old lads club in future then, and have him stick to the brilliant, excitable presenter full of knowledge back in the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, deanolegend1989 said: To be fair, black, white, men, women. nearly every single pundit on currently talk absolute sh*t. The standard over the last few years has been as bad as ive ever seen. The 90s with Andy Gray, Richard Keys was far far better. Now its just geared towards top 6, but to an absolutely embarrassing level that's almost too biast to actually accept is allowed to be said on a supposed neutral broadcast.. They need to get more 'experts' who have had careers at Everton, Leicester, Newcastle etc rather than just ex Liverpool and Man Utd..yawn Gray/Keys were the best. I think Kelly Dalglish is the best presenter now. Neville and Carragher are miles ahead of the rest imo and they are both a good watch together too. Micah Richards has been a decent addition but the rest are all equally as bad. Edited 26 August 2020 by Fox92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winteriscoming Posted 26 August 2020 Share Posted 26 August 2020 2 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Gray/Keys were the best. I think Kelly Dalglish is the best presenter now. Neville and Carragher are miles ahead of the rest imo and they are both a good watch together too. Micah Richards has been a decent addition but the rest are all equally as bad. Prefer Keane and Souness to Neville and carragher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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