StanSP Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 Just now, st albans fox said: bollocks rule Stan but you didn’t complain when our fourth goal went in v sland ..... 4th goal vs who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 Offside should be offside when it’s that clear really . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes_rule1978 Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 1 minute ago, filbertway said: So you can just stand offside now and tackle a defender as soon as they go to play the ball Seems so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 1 minute ago, filbertway said: So you can just stand offside now and tackle a defender as soon as they go to play the ball No - you have to wait for the player to deliberately play the ball and then you can challenge them. Defenders should know the laws of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The whole world smiles Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 5 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: If VAR was as all encompassing bent as some think it is in regard to ensuring we aren't anywhere near the title race then why did they overturn that penalty yesterday, not judge Vardy to have clipped Rudiger for Maddison's goal and rule out Werner's? One minute VAR is purely wanting Liverpool to win the league (last season) now it's Spurs early on, then Man Utd and now Man City? Come on, stop pulling pissers. It's just shit full stop. Agreed I think var has been pretty kind to us this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshallForEngland Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 If that first goal is allowed by the rules then there is a problem with the rules. Any defender in that situation is at a severe disadvantage because he has to stand still to control the ball, while the opposing player is able to start a sprint 20 yards behind him and arrive at full pelt to nick the ball of him the second he tries to bring it down. That cannot be fair and if the rules allow that to happen they should be changed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winteriscoming Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 There’s no way other way round villa would of had that offside goal given. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adejo92 Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, StanSP said: It is the rule - I remember something similar happening between Liverpool & Spurs a few seasons ago. It's a shit rule mind. Rodri is offside. Clearly. He's influenced Mings in to playing the ball and making a mistake because of his position. True, as annoying as it is. Like you say, it's just a shit rule. Peter Walton's back tracking I stand by though. His opinion had to change to stay in line with the F.A's script. Edited 20 January 2021 by adejo92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 Just now, StanSP said: 4th goal vs who? Sunderland - opening game 15/16 albrighton same law , slightly different circumstance as he doesn’t tackle the defender but he benefits from the player being deemed to have deliberately tried to play the ball when making contact ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
when_you're_smiling Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 Have a degree of sympathy with Villa - but it was also shite defending. Poor touch and wasn’t aware of where the player was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicesterpool Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 (edited) The rules are made up as they go along to suit the big clubs. It will always happen sadly and it would be great to see referee's come out and talk about the pressure there under. I mean are they influenced. Of course we will never know has refs are given silent orders. Edited 20 January 2021 by Leicesterpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 Just now, st albans fox said: Sunderland - opening game 15/16 albrighton same law , slightly different circumstance as he doesn’t tackle the defender but he benefits from the player being deemed to have deliberately tried to play the ball when making contact ..... I'm amazed you can remember what comment I made/didn't make 5 and a half years ago to be honest. I probably just thought the lino missed an offside as opposed to this 'deliberately played the ball' malarkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtmcfly Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 8 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: If VAR was as all encompassing bent as some think it is in regard to ensuring we aren't anywhere near the title race then why did they overturn that penalty yesterday, not judge Vardy to have clipped Rudiger for Maddison's goal and rule out Werner's? One minute VAR is purely wanting Liverpool to win the league (last season) now it's Spurs early on, then Man Utd and now Man City? Come on, stop pulling pissers. It's just shit full stop. Who's top of the penalties awarded list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorro en españa Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 All the studio commentary on my channel is - offside and can not be argued. They are angry about the inconsistency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthosoriginals Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 8 minutes ago, walkerleeds said: Mate, we've played 19 (nineteen) games out of a 38 game season. I think you need to get your brain into gear if you're getting worked up about other teams results this early. Mate, stick to wanting man city to go top of the league and above us, whatever the time of year it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 1 minute ago, Leicesterpool said: The rules are made up as they go along to suit the big clubs. It will always happen sadly and it would be great to see referee's come out and talk about the pressure there under. I mean are they influenced. Of course we will never know as ref are about silent treatments. This is just not true. This rule has been in place for a while. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Aus Fox Posted 20 January 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 20 January 2021 The thing that needs to be looked at is advantage gained. Does Rodri gain an advantage from being in an offside position? Yes - goal shouldn’t count. Compare this to goals which are ruled out for less than a mm of armpit hair where no resonance advantage is gained. Absolutely ridiculous 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adejo92 Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 This is just warm up for the Man Utd game. Hope Fernandes snaps his ankle before their inevitable penalty. Side note, VAR really has been good to us thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zear0 Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 I'll take their word the decision was correct as got better things to do than read the IFAB pages, but why doesn't the former professional referee who is paid by BT specifically to discuss officiating decisions not know them? Inept refs on the pitch, and equally inept ones on TV. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorro en españa Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 Incidentally - had a look at the BlueMoon’s equivalent thread to this. They wanted a Chelsea win last night 😂😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes_rule1978 Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 1 minute ago, Aus Fox said: The thing that needs to be looked at is advantage gained. Does Rodri gain an advantage from being in an offside position? Yes - goal shouldn’t count. Compare this to goals which are ruled out for less than a mm of armpit hair where no resonance advantage is gained. Absolutely ridiculous Seems if that is the rule they are using then yet again it is ridiculous... Rodri gains a massive advantage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkie Bennett Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 2 minutes ago, MarshallForEngland said: If that first goal is allowed by the rules then there is a problem with the rules. Any defender in that situation is at a severe disadvantage because he has to stand still to control the ball, while the opposing player is able to start a sprint 20 yards behind him and arrive at full pelt to nick the ball of him the second he tries to bring it down. That cannot be fair and if the rules allow that to happen they should be changed. Or the defender could do nothing, let the ball go by, and the offside player running towards it is called offside. The situation we've just seen feels wrong, so there probably is a problem with the rule. Law, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes_rule1978 Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 2 minutes ago, adejo92 said: This is just warm up for the Man Utd game. Hope Fernandes snaps his ankle before their inevitable penalty. Side note, VAR really has been good to us thus far. It has given the right decisions, so no complaints... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkerleeds Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 2 minutes ago, worthosoriginals said: Mate, stick to wanting man city to go top of the league and above us, whatever the time of year it is. Will do. Up the Cityzens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacamion Posted 20 January 2021 Share Posted 20 January 2021 Onside / offside, Mings should have leathered it. As a centre back, if you fanny about trying to chest it and control a high ball as it lands, you are going to come unstuck at some point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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