Danny Simpson reveals double blow to 'hurt' Leicester City players

[Monsell1976]

Be disappointed, but they only have themselves to blame, 14 point lead or not, getting hammered against Bournemouth, just not competing in other, is not disappointing, it’s annoying.

 

 Even with the drop in form, beating Bournemouth, and turning up in other games, and nicking a point, would have about put us there.

 

 The players can say it hurts, but they should have turned that hurt if losing into performance’s as results from Christmas are not good, not looked at stats, but off the top of my head I’d say relegation form.

 

 This squad only manages to play half a season, every season, it was to be expected, time to freshen things up, a lot of players let Rodgers down.

[dayday]

4 hours ago, Guy said:

I think the weird and mind boggling substitutions Brendan made put the team out of kilter too when all we had to do was defend our lead resolutely after our superior first half performance. That one game ultimately cost us a Champions League and was all in vain too - as Bournemouth were relegated of course!

This it for me, he subs was so bizarre, the Bournemouth game there best defender goes off, we take our striker off

 

The game against a very jaded Man Utd team, knowing in that 2nd half we needed to go all out to win he should of brought Barnes and Gray on earlier and made his intent known.

 

The Spurs game was where Brendan got it so wrong , to play such a high line against there frontline with our 3 slow cbs, was kamikaze football.

 

Some say we overachieved, yes we might well of done to start with but after Christmas to surrender that big cushion, the blame comes down to Brendan.

 

Ive said all along he needs 3 or 4 of his own signings then we can proper judge him, next season will reveal more of how good a manager he is.

Edited 29 July 2020 by dayday

[jmono84]

Look at how many goals we’ve gifted teams the past few weeks... the players bottled it big time! Error after error that’s why I’m so frustrated, we literally gave goals and points away!

We need better players but I’m not convinced it going to happen! A positive spin on things is that none of the players will want to experience this again and SHOULD learn for future games!

[murphy]

I hope the players are hurt.  I am.

 

I hope they bloomin kick themselves but they'd probably miss.

[UniFox21]

8 minutes ago, murphy said:

I hope the players are hurt.  I am.

 

I hope they bloomin kick themselves but they'd probably miss.

Soyuncu wouldn't 

[NotTheMarketLeader]

20 hours ago, AKCJ said:

I think there are enough leaders in the team for it to happen. The likes of Vardy, Kasper, Evans, Wes, Youri and Chilwell are all part of this elusive "leadership group" that John Percy speaks about quite regularly.

 

The trouble is it's not just about being a strong voice, it's about showing you won't stand for a drop in concentration or standards. I feel like the group of leaders will still do that. I just worry that they're not backed up by the likes of Drinkwater, James, King, Nugent, Konch etc.

 

We can only wait and see. I also wonder whether Brendan is the type of manager that's great at picking players up (like Nige was). I think he's clearly tactically brilliant and is great when we're on top, I just have reservations as to whether he's the inspiring leader when we need him to be.

This leadership group; I can understand the old guard mentioned, but Chilwell and Youri, makes no sense to me.

 

What we need is an experienced and aggressive centre mid who leads by example.

 

A hybrid of Roy Keane and Cambiasso would be nice!

 

[NotTheMarketLeader]

2 hours ago, dayday said:

This it for me, he subs was so bizarre, the Bournemouth game there best defender goes off, we take our striker off

 

The game against a very jaded Man Utd team, knowing in that 2nd half we needed to go all out to win he should of brought Barnes and Gray on earlier and made his intent known.

 

The Spurs game was where Brendan got it so wrong , to play such a high line against there frontline with our 3 slow cbs, was kamikaze football.

 

Some say we overachieved, yes we might well of done to start with but after Christmas to surrender that big cushion, the blame comes down to Brendan.

 

Ive said all along he needs 3 or 4 of his own signings then we can proper judge him, next season will reveal more of how good a manager he is.

Agreed.  As well as his poor tactical performance since December, the contents of your last paragraph are of further concern however.
 

As he would say, he’s ‘brought in’ Perez for £30m who has proven 9 games out of 10 to be a poor player; we ridiculously overpaid; along with Bennett in January - which was another shocker. 
 

Overall correct decision making seems to be an issue. 

[foxinsocks]

6 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

Agreed.  As well as his poor tactical performance since December, the contents of your last paragraph are of further concern however.
 

As he would say, he’s ‘brought in’ Perez for £30m who has proven 9 games out of 10 to be a poor player; we ridiculously overpaid; along with Bennett in January - which was another shocker. 
 

Overall correct decision making seems to be an issue. 

No manager explains himself to the press - so we will have to look carefully at who leaves and who comes in to figure out what BR is thinking.  He has seen our squad in action now.  Mistakes aside we don't do bad in big games, but this season was shaped by 4 results:  Norwich, Watford (late draw), Bournemouth and Villa (in league cup).  We should have walked every one of those - so he needs to sort out our consistency (which was good before Christmas).  WE have to be better at breaking down sides (doing round the back) - the more successful we are the more we will face this problem.  I will now measure BR against the changes he rings and our performance next season

[AKCJ]

25 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

This leadership group; I can understand the old guard mentioned, but Chilwell and Youri, makes no sense to me.

 

What we need is an experienced and aggressive centre mid who leads by example.

 

A hybrid of Roy Keane and Cambiasso would be nice!

 

IMO it makes perfect sense. The old guard won't be around forever, they need to take other young leaders in and under their wing. Vardy, Wes and Kasper will all probably finish at a similar time. That would be a massive hole to fill so it makes sense to prepare for it.

[AjcW]

22 hours ago, StriderHiryu said:

Love Simmo! Can see him joining Elliott, Tags, Walsh and co for the LCFC build-up stuff in the future one day, and he'd be very welcome if he did so!

He's already done quite a few games for American TV, usually United. I think he'll end up getting quite a good TV contract to be honest. 

 

 

[fuchsntf]

9 hours ago, NaijaFox said:

 

Buddy, if those Projects and Management teams were successful, it's because they realize that the key to success includes recognizing shortcomings. There's nothing wrong with alternatively criticizing and commending persons (including coaches and/or players) as deemed fit. It's most certainly not evidence of "personal hate towards the team and club" and blowing a gasket over the criticism of persons on a DISCUSSION forum is more self-commentary than anything else.

 

When your Projects and Management groups evaluate performance, one suspects it's not limited to the extremes of blanket canonization or demonization. Along same lines, while Brendan has had a good first full season with us, his performance was certainly NOT beyond reproach and (again to be brutally honest, because I personally like Brendan and wish him great success with us) frankly reaffirms that the jury is still out on his tactical nous at the very highest levels of the game.  

 

PS: Btw, pretty sure your 'successful' Projects and Managements group would affirm that the more successful one becomes, the greater/higher expectations become. 

 

I actually agree...conflict & Counter discussions are Part of the expectancy....but They are Not "just" Observers .

On This forum there is a toxic vibe,that is IMO carrying the negative far to wide,and too often.If seems even for East-midlanders, our cynicism & moaning

platforms are Stretching their wings with their constant relative critical OTT punditry...

@volpeazzurro  whos quote I targetted,is One of the Posters who I actually appeciate reading....

 

Und I believe BRodgers deserves more respect & Time before anybody starts using...the  armchair "easy way" of Psych-analysiert someone career....

All of us including Top managers have their baggage...

Edited 29 July 2020 by fuchsntf

[jerry]

8 hours ago, Monsell1976 said:

Be disappointed, but they only have themselves to blame, 14 point lead or not, getting hammered against Bournemouth, just not competing in other, is not disappointing, it’s annoying.

 

 Even with the drop in form, beating Bournemouth, and turning up in other games, and nicking a point, would have about put us there.

 

 The players can say it hurts, but they should have turned that hurt if losing into performance’s as results from Christmas are not good, not looked at stats, but off the top of my head I’d say relegation form.

 

 This squad only manages to play half a season, every season, it was to be expected, time to freshen things up, a lot of players let Rodgers down.

Not sure about only playing half a season, would be good for us to play for more than one half in most of the games !

[KingsX]

19 hours ago, splinterdream said:

Okay, personally I think he's one of the better pundits, no bias, very knowledgable 

 

Lee Dixon is a god among match commentators.  He’s honest, he’s perceptive, unpretentious and funny.  He’s also nowhere near the degree of “big six” bias of virtually every pundit in UK media (at least as I read about them on here).

 

Those who watched the United match on NBC will have noticed him starting to pull for City in the second half.  While Leicester’s own Arlo White stayed studiously “neutral”.

 

I don’t care than he played for Arsenal.  I’ve got lots of time for Lee.

[sacreblueits442]

11 hours ago, AKCJ said:

IMO it makes perfect sense. The old guard won't be around forever, they need to take other young leaders in and under their wing. Vardy, Wes and Kasper will all probably finish at a similar time. That would be a massive hole to fill so it makes sense to prepare for it.

...unable to see the value of the "Old Guard"!!!

  This club is crying out for leadership and we are not getting this on the pitch or from the experience pro's off the pitch. The drop in performance is something that should have been an issue that could have been resolved either by an all players meeting or a delegation going to Rodgers with an open forum.

 We annihilated Southampton but they recovered and became a solid team who went on to beat us in the return match. The fortitude required to pick themselves up and perform could only have been from a manager with the ability to motivate a squad that would have been on their knees and a squad of players willing to look themselves in the mirror.

[AKCJ]

4 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...unable to see the value of the "Old Guard"!!!

  This club is crying out for leadership and we are not getting this on the pitch or from the experience pro's off the pitch. The drop in performance is something that should have been an issue that could have been resolved either by an all players meeting or a delegation going to Rodgers with an open forum.

 We annihilated Southampton but they recovered and became a solid team who went on to beat us in the return match. The fortitude required to pick themselves up and perform could only have been from a manager with the ability to motivate a squad that would have been on their knees and a squad of players willing to look themselves in the mirror.

You can't see the value of Vardy or Kasper? Surely must be joking?

[sacreblueits442]

Just now, AKCJ said:

You can't see the value of Vardy or Kasper? Surely must be joking?

..not in this scenario!!!

  I would like to know how you perceive that they have helped the team, there is little or no evidence that they have added any value especially with the ongoing decline in our performances.

 

[Tom12345]

Third reason: With Vardy getting old, our own window is also shrinking to establish ourselves as a top 4. Vardy is irreplaceable for us, unless we get into top 4 before Vardy retires and we can get a top quality striker at Vardy level who is willing to come. We are lucky to have him but he is 33.

[Tom12345]

18 hours ago, dayday said:

This it for me, he subs was so bizarre, the Bournemouth game there best defender goes off, we take our striker off

 

The game against a very jaded Man Utd team, knowing in that 2nd half we needed to go all out to win he should of brought Barnes and Gray on earlier and made his intent known.

 

The Spurs game was where Brendan got it so wrong , to play such a high line against there frontline with our 3 slow cbs, was kamikaze football.

 

Some say we overachieved, yes we might well of done to start with but after Christmas to surrender that big cushion, the blame comes down to Brendan.

 

Ive said all along he needs 3 or 4 of his own signings then we can proper judge him, next season will reveal more of how good a manager he is.

This speaks to Brendon’s mindset - too defensive minded. He cares more about not conceding than winning; so we lose. It rubs off on the players hence all the backpassing.

[MPH]

it could be worse... we could have 66% posession and 34 shots on goal and still lose 2-0 like Juventus did tonight

[Guy]

21 hours ago, dayday said:

This it for me, he subs was so bizarre, the Bournemouth game there best defender goes off, we take our striker off

 

The game against a very jaded Man Utd team, knowing in that 2nd half we needed to go all out to win he should of brought Barnes and Gray on earlier and made his intent known.

 

The Spurs game was where Brendan got it so wrong , to play such a high line against there frontline with our 3 slow cbs, was kamikaze football.

 

Some say we overachieved, yes we might well of done to start with but after Christmas to surrender that big cushion, the blame comes down to Brendan.

 

Ive said all along he needs 3 or 4 of his own signings then we can proper judge him, next season will reveal more of how good a manager he is.

Yes, fully agree that next season, with more his own signings (that are definitely required!) will be more the time to judge Rodgers as an overall manager. To me (with the money spent especially) he's been little-no better than Puel really - who spent far less in the transfer market for his only close season here in 2018! He's better than Puel as a manager I think but quite how much remains to be seen next season really!

As we've touched upon already then his bizarre formations for some of the games during the post lockdown (part three of the season), cost us dearly in the two games mentioned, lest we forget that we were also lucky with things like VAR decisions in part one of the season too like with Everton at home - and Wolves home and away - all games again where Brendan's tactics were not the best! Southampton's 0-9 was just a freak result and we've probably since worsened as a team as much as they've since improved since last October! 

 

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

On 28/07/2020 at 18:50, AKCJ said:

The second half of the Bournemouth game came about through a sheer lack of professionalism and mentality from the players.

That was clearly a big component but so was the idiotic decision to take off Iheanacho at half time. 

[honeybradger]

On 28/07/2020 at 22:06, AKCJ said:

Jurgen Klopp and Pep Guardiola got the better of him, he must be shit then  

It wasnt even klopp and guardiola getting the better of him, as far as i can tell they didnt change anything from their normal tactical setup, rodgers just outplayed himself. Maddison marking gundogan (why?), barnes marking walker (a defensive fullback who probably loved the opposition winger sticking to him), ndidi sitting between the centrebacks (so he was pretty much out of the game), chilwell wasnt even marking mahrez that game he was covering the space between himself and soyuncu then had to move out to deal with mahrez when he got the ball. All these decisions by rodgers left de bruyne and mahrez completely open it was baffling. Then he played maddison on the wing the next game who marked henderson, leaving TAA open the whole game, absolutely baffling, it's like he rewatched the city game, saw the problems then set up the next match as if we were playing them again instead of preparing for liverpool. We would probably have lost anyway but it's got to be one of the worst back to back games tactical performances ive ever seen.

[HesNotGudjonsonn2]

On 28/07/2020 at 20:51, sacreblueits442 said:

..we will never be able to do that!!!

They (Manchester City) still finished well behind Liverpool, even with the listed star studded roster.

  I do not envisage us being in that position and know we can achieve great things with nowhere near their outlay.

I apologise for mentioning the cost but my point was the quality in the reserves. If we pick up the required quality for a lot less then good for us and I’m sure we will.

 

However, it will take time.

[honeybradger]

10 minutes ago, HesNotGudjonsonn2 said:

I apologise for mentioning the cost but my point was the quality in the reserves. If we pick up the required quality for a lot less then good for us and I’m sure we will.

 

However, it will take time.

Apart from central defenders our backups are good for a team of our size/starting 11. I think we're well up there for most goal involvements off the bench and praet/choudhury arent slouches in midfield. If you look at wolves they only really have traore/jota and dendoncker on the bench.

Edited 30 July 2020 by honeybradger

[HesNotGudjonsonn2]

I am not suggesting they aren’t but we don’t have much after the first 16 at present and, as like every other team, to improve we need to look across the board. We should always look to improve the first team when and where we can but also the bench and the reserves. It is just strength in depth and we will grow as we already have been for the last few years. Let’s just keep building.