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David Brooks

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Fightforever

Fightforever

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5 minutes ago, Foxy_Bear said:

That CERTAINLY doesn't apply to Brooks who plays by far more games on the RW. 7 out of his 9 games this year for example. 

Well. I guess I am mistaken then. I could have swore he was mainly a cam tho.

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majaco

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2 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

Don't think anyone believes any one signing fixes all of our problems surely. 

 

But the more quality young players we keep adding the better. Unless Brooks injury catches up with him there's almost no chance we don't eventually make profit from him and he improves our team. 

 

What's not to like? 

 

For all my enthusiasm in this thread, I should stress I doubt this actually happens, we're probably not even looking at him but still. He'd be a good signing. 

Get out of the forum, you wum.

 

People were quite happy talking garbage and you spoil it by talking sense.   I bet you think that your ridiculous, measured views add to the quality of debate.

 

I agree with you.  Brooks would add quality.

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MickeyMouse

MickeyMouse

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On 30/07/2020 at 17:03, honeybradger said:

I think he's the best winger we've been linked with. Sarr might have a higher potential but he's still raw, i think brooks is a much better rounded player right now which is what we need.

Sarr is just a Brazilian Gray.

Finnegan

Finnegan

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Not sure:

 

A. Why people keep comparing Brooks to Perez or suggesting he's a "Welsh Perez." What does that even mean? They don't play anything like each other. Brooks is really quite quick, dynamic, carries the ball dangerously. I like Perez but he's about as dynamic as Shinji was. 

 

B. Why on Earth Brooks would be intimidated by Ayoze Perez and wouldn't sign for Leicester because he wouldn't back himself to usurp him lol

 

End of the day, that's where the manager has to get involved in signings isn't it? You talk to the lad, you sell your project to him, you tell him what you want him to contribute and how you see him fitting in. If Rodgers is approaching prospective wingers and going "sorry Neymar but this Perez kid we have is irreplaceable, you can sign but you're going to start on the bench" we'd have a problem. 

 

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Finnegan

Finnegan

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10 minutes ago, PrecociousFox93 said:


Bournemouth are in trouble...

 

Or, Bournemouth finally get rid of the anchor that's dragged them out the Premier league. 

 

Honestly one of the most talented squads in the bottom half. When you look at thru recruitment model and the profile of their squad they're really not much different to us. 

 

Lots of young, talented, decent footballers. Howe is just a shit manager that doesn't have a clue how to defend. He's like the anti Pulis, obsessive fixation on "quality football" and no defensive organisation. You need to be somewhere in the middle and he's way off. 

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PrecociousFox93

PrecociousFox93

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2 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Or, Bournemouth finally get rid of the anchor that's dragged them out the Premier league. 

 

Honestly one of the most talented squads in the bottom half. When you look at thru recruitment model and the profile of their squad they're really not much different to us. 

 

Lots of young, talented, decent footballers. Howe is just a shit manager that doesn't have a clue how to defend. He's like the anti Pulis, obsessive fixation on "quality football" and no defensive organisation. You need to be somewhere in the middle and he's way off. 

Even so, he’s also the manager that got them to the Premier League. Without Howe they’re still in league 1 / championship at best. 
 

I do understand your points, but as a club they’ve been punching above their weight for years.

 

Anyways, hopefully this news may be the final nail in the coffin for some of the players leaving - Brooks in particular.

 

 

Finnegan

Finnegan

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5 minutes ago, PrecociousFox93 said:

Even so, he’s also the manager that got them to the Premier League. Without Howe they’re still in league 1 / championship at best. 
 

I do understand your points, but as a club they’ve been punching above their weight for years.

 

Anyways, hopefully this news may be the final nail in the coffin for some of the players leaving - Brooks in particular.

 

 

 

I'm sorry, I'm not sure I agree. Bournemouth bought their way to the Premier league. Money got them there, they have very wealthy Russian investors. 

 

"Without Howe" they'd have found some other solid lower league manager to get them there. 

 

The thing is, Howe is a good manager for the Championship if you've got good players because he plays a type of football that's ideal for creating and scoring goals when you're the stronger side on paper. 

 

But he's got no idea how to adapt that to a winning system when his players AREN'T the best in the league. 

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Ric Flair

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14 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Or, Bournemouth finally get rid of the anchor that's dragged them out the Premier league. 

 

Honestly one of the most talented squads in the bottom half. When you look at thru recruitment model and the profile of their squad they're really not much different to us. 

 

Lots of young, talented, decent footballers. Howe is just a shit manager that doesn't have a clue how to defend. He's like the anti Pulis, obsessive fixation on "quality football" and no defensive organisation. You need to be somewhere in the middle and he's way off. 

I thought they had a talented squad a few years ago but actually scratch the surface and it's distinctly average except for a few wingers, a forward and a centre half. Absolutely nothing else.

PrecociousFox93

PrecociousFox93

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22 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

I'm sorry, I'm not sure I agree. Bournemouth bought their way to the Premier league. Money got them there, they have very wealthy Russian investors. 

 

"Without Howe" they'd have found some other solid lower league manager to get them there. 

 

The thing is, Howe is a good manager for the Championship if you've got good players because he plays a type of football that's ideal for creating and scoring goals when you're the stronger side on paper. 

 

But he's got no idea how to adapt that to a winning system when his players AREN'T the best in the league. 

I wouldn’t say they bought their way to the premier league considering their net spend in every season was less >£1.5m in all but one season until they reached the Prem. 

 

Let’s be honest, nobody expected Bournemouth to last 5 seasons, with one finish in the top 10. They overachieved massively. 
 

Ake, Wilson, King, Brooks and Fraser are good. The rest are padded out with pretty average footballers or journeymans (not to mention the poor transfers over the years which may or may not be Howe’s fault).

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Jaspa

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They've lost a number of players and their others are kicking on abit, have lost form or have picked up serious injures; Charlie Daniels, Andrew Surman, Adam Smith, Simon Francis, Gosling, Fraser & Lewis Cook all fall into those categories.

 

Also every game we played against them with Howe in charge of apart from home in the Championship and since last spring they have been a nightmare to play against, they're defensively compact, stick slight little kicks in, play the ref and have had effective attacking players like Wilson & King.

 

Their recruitment has been very suspect but you have to give Howe some credit for what they've done in their 5 years in this League.

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Koke

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1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

I thought they had a talented squad a few years ago but actually scratch the surface and it's distinctly average except for a few wingers, a forward and a centre half. Absolutely nothing else.

 

Their most reliable players are getting on a bit .Simon Francis, Steve Cook, Andrew Surman, Charlie Daniels are all well into their 30s. Adam Smith is 29. 

 

Once those guys started to fade, Howe was incapable of replacing them. Most of his big money transfer were miserable failures. 

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MPH

MPH

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2 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

Or, Bournemouth finally get rid of the anchor that's dragged them out the Premier league. 

 

Honestly one of the most talented squads in the bottom half. When you look at thru recruitment model and the profile of their squad they're really not much different to us. 

 

Lots of young, talented, decent footballers. Howe is just a shit manager that doesn't have a clue how to defend. He's like the anti Pulis, obsessive fixation on "quality football" and no defensive organisation. You need to be somewhere in the middle and he's way off. 

 

 

 

you were doing so well for a couple of posts...

 

lol

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Finnegan

Finnegan

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3 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

 

 

you were doing so well for a couple of posts...

 

lol

 

I genuinely don't rate him and if you think I'm somehow alone in that and that it's an absurd or outlandish view I think you've probably slept through the last couple of seasons. 

 

You think their squad is vastly worse than Sheffield United? Burnley? Brighton? Newcastle? Villa? 

 

His naivety has seen them go down. 

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MPH

MPH

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30 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

I genuinely don't rate him and if you think I'm somehow alone in that and that it's an absurd or outlandish view I think you've probably slept through the last couple of seasons. 

 

You think their squad is vastly worse than Sheffield United? Burnley? Brighton? Newcastle? Villa? 

 

His naivety has seen them go down. 

 

 

he took a club with a 12,000 capacity stadium and tiny fan base from the second division to the prem and kept them there for 5 years.. if you don’t rate him, i’m pretty sure you are in the minority as he is very well respected in the football world.

 

 

If i was a betting man i’d put money on him getting another prem Job soon.

 

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MickeyMouse

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7 hours ago, majaco said:

Fantastic respect.  What a stupid, ignorant post.

Despite Gray being a bench player his goal/assist contribution rate is about the same as Sarr. If Gray was playing week in, week out, he'd have a better output.
I think Gray is a promising player, so by effect I'm not disrespecting Sarr but I admit I'm guilty of messing up his nationality. I was aware that he was Senegalese but I misremembered while typing that post.

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