Babylon Posted 23 August 2021 Posted 23 August 2021 1 hour ago, TiffToff88 said: Yes. Of course he was. First choice left back by a long way, England international. When he was fit he played every second he was available. How was he not a key player? Never understood the criticism he got from our fans while he was at here. For pretty much half of every season he played he was absolute dog muck, that's why he was criticised. Frankly, he was probably our worst player for the second half of his last season here. 3
Bert Posted 23 August 2021 Posted 23 August 2021 1 hour ago, TiffToff88 said: Yes. Of course he was. First choice left back by a long way, England international. When he was fit he played every second he was available. How was he not a key player? Never understood the criticism he got from our fans while he was at here. Me either. It was way over the top. He was decent for us. Had the odd bad game or was more frustrating than anything but there’s not many players in the world that won’t do that. 2
Bert Posted 23 August 2021 Posted 23 August 2021 15 minutes ago, Babylon said: For pretty much half of every season he played he was absolute dog muck, that's why he was criticised. Frankly, he was probably our worst player for the second half of his last season here. Which was when he’d had his head turned. There’s a reason why he was first choice left back for us & England and we got £50m for him.
TiffToff88 Posted 23 August 2021 Posted 23 August 2021 8 minutes ago, Bert said: Which was when he’d had his head turned. There’s a reason why he was first choice left back for us & England and we got £50m for him. No no, we're clearly wrong about him. As was Brendan Rodgers. And Gareth Southgate. And Chelsea's world class scouting and player recruitment teams...
Babylon Posted 23 August 2021 Posted 23 August 2021 16 minutes ago, Bert said: Which was when he’d had his head turned. There’s a reason why he was first choice left back for us & England and we got £50m for him. It happened almost every single season and not just that season. 1
Babylon Posted 23 August 2021 Posted 23 August 2021 7 minutes ago, TiffToff88 said: No no, we're clearly wrong about him. As was Brendan Rodgers. And Gareth Southgate. And Chelsea's world class scouting and player recruitment teams... Chelsea who bought Drinkwater, Kepa, Morata, Werner etc etc? So, are you suggesting he wasn't absolute dog muck for large chucks of each season?
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 23 August 2021 Posted 23 August 2021 3 minutes ago, Babylon said: It happened almost every single season and not just that season. Hed had his head turned ever since he made his debut. Don't think he ever really wanted to be here.
RoyalBlueGaz Posted 23 August 2021 Posted 23 August 2021 (edited) Not long after selling Chilwell I was playing a match and someone played a simple pass to me that I embarrassingly failed to control by just letting it roll under my foot and out for a throw in. However I consoled myself with the fact I saw the £50million England international Ben Chilwell do that exact same thing earlier that year! P.s. at least I was trying to account for the bobbly pitch! Edited 23 August 2021 by RoyalBlueGaz Added the p.s.
don_danbury Posted 23 August 2021 Posted 23 August 2021 3 hours ago, TiffToff88 said: Yes. Of course he was. First choice left back by a long way, England international. When he was fit he played every second he was available. How was he not a key player? Never understood the criticism he got from our fans while he was at here. i don't count him as a key player. stick fuchs or any other slightly above average LB there and they'd do the same job as chilly did.
kristianity77 Posted 23 August 2021 Posted 23 August 2021 2 hours ago, fuchsntf said: Every Time someone says we threw Top 4 away...I will return with no we didnt...!! I suppose its technically the same as saying we threw winning the Premier league away because at one point we were top. You finish where you deserve to finish.
davieG Posted 24 August 2021 Author Posted 24 August 2021 https://www.premierleague.com/news/2221613 Leicester using urban sports to keep local youngsters active Urban Foxes scheme inspires those who want to look beyond football and have been inspired by Olympics
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 24 August 2021 Posted 24 August 2021 Chillwell wasn't a key player but he was our first choice left back. You wonder if his bubble has burst a bit, Chelsea prefer a player who's borderline past it, and didn't get a sniff for England in the summer, with second choice right backs being preferred for his position. He's a good player and got some undue stick on here but he's also not as good as his reputation. Too balanced a view, I'm sure.
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ARTY_FOX Posted 1 September 2021 Posted 1 September 2021 On 24/08/2021 at 15:31, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said: Chillwell wasn't a key player but he was our first choice left back. You wonder if his bubble has burst a bit, Chelsea prefer a player who's borderline past it, and didn't get a sniff for England in the summer, with second choice right backs being preferred for his position. He's a good player and got some undue stick on here but he's also not as good as his reputation. Too balanced a view, I'm sure. He did get alot of undue stick but he let's himself down in the final third. Really good in the other 2 though. Unfortunately with a modern full back putting in a good cross instead of stopping turning and passing back everytime is what managers want.
Nalis Posted 1 September 2021 Posted 1 September 2021 Putting Chilwell's Chelsea transfer in the same bracket as Drinkwater's transfer is a little unfair to Chilwell - I've seen it on this forum a few times. Acording to whoscored Drinkwater has played less than 600 competitive minutes for Chelsea since joining them 4 years ago. Chilwell has over 700 minutes from his Chelsea Champions League matches alone.
brookfox Posted 1 September 2021 Posted 1 September 2021 Couldn't find the "Do they not mean us" thread so putting it here. Good old Phil McNulty couldn't even be bothered to comment on our transfer window https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58403262! 2
ealingfox Posted 1 September 2021 Posted 1 September 2021 6 minutes ago, brookfox said: Couldn't find the "Do they not mean us" thread so putting it here. Good old Phil McNulty couldn't even be bothered to comment on our transfer window https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58403262! Why would he? We haven't done anything interesting and our 2 main signings haven't started a game yet, so he's never seen them play.
Golden Fox Posted 2 September 2021 Posted 2 September 2021 16 hours ago, brookfox said: Couldn't find the "Do they not mean us" thread so putting it here. Good old Phil McNulty couldn't even be bothered to comment on our transfer window https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58403262! I read this yesterday and nearly posted it here. It's a review of "Rich 6" + Everton + West Ham. Not that I'm too bothered as he's not going to tell us anything we didn't already know, but we have clearly established ourselves as one of the main contenders for a Top 4 spot, so it did just smack of deliberately ignoring us. 16 hours ago, ealingfox said: Why would he? We haven't done anything interesting and our 2 main signings haven't started a game yet, so he's never seen them play. No activity would still warrant a comment. The review on Liverpool is that they haven't done much but made a couple of fringe signings - so we've probably done more than they have. On reflection, it's just a very poorly constructed article from the "chief football writer". If you spend that much time writing about 8 clubs, why not make it empirically based and do it as a review of how last year's top 10 have done. You would just need to add in 2 extra paragraphs for us and Leeds (10=) and have a good structure to work from rather than the rambling nature of the piece. Sometimes I think I'm in the wrong profession! 2
Fox in the North Posted 2 September 2021 Posted 2 September 2021 17 hours ago, ealingfox said: Why would he? We haven't done anything interesting and our 2 main signings haven't started a game yet, so he's never seen them play. I get where Brookfox is coming from. Logically we’re a team that’s had 2 consecutive top 5 finishes and a FA cup win. For a team of that calibre there really isn’t much analysis on us in comparison with the “greedy 6” + Everton + West Ham. I’m not too bothered by it but I think it gets more obvious every season we hang around. Hope we can keep in the top 6 again for that reason alone 1
Gordon the Great Posted 2 September 2021 Posted 2 September 2021 On 23/08/2021 at 16:58, pmcla26 said: Chilwell is neither £50m good nor was he as bad as our fans made out. He's just a decent Premier League full-back. Great athlete, great progresser of the ball, average defender and average end product. We were about his level really but fashionable/hype players like that are always going to be sold for big profit if the money is on the table. Chelsea will (I think they may already have) realise that he's okay and he'll either be one of a couple of full/wing back options without ever being outright first choice or they'll flog him to Arsenal, West Ham or Everton in a few years for £20-30m off the back of his reputation. And that, in my opinion is as good a round up of not only Ben Chilwell, but also of his general position in the scheme of things as you will see. Good steady player with the tendency to believe the hype about himself. Not a world beater but a skilled tryer all the same. With, genuinely, the greatest respect, a considerable , but not a massive loss.
Carl the Llama Posted 2 September 2021 Posted 2 September 2021 2 hours ago, Golden Fox said: I read this yesterday and nearly posted it here. It's a review of "Rich 6" + Everton + West Ham. Not that I'm too bothered as he's not going to tell us anything we didn't already know, but we have clearly established ourselves as one of the main contenders for a Top 4 spot, so it did just smack of deliberately ignoring us. No activity would still warrant a comment. The review on Liverpool is that they haven't done much but made a couple of fringe signings - so we've probably done more than they have. On reflection, it's just a very poorly constructed article from the "chief football writer". If you spend that much time writing about 8 clubs, why not make it empirically based and do it as a review of how last year's top 10 have done. You would just need to add in 2 extra paragraphs for us and Leeds (10=) and have a good structure to work from rather than the rambling nature of the piece. Sometimes I think I'm in the wrong profession! Whenever Phil posts an article on any subject I wonder how he's become the chief football writer, never produced anything of value that I'm aware of
turtmcfly Posted 2 September 2021 Posted 2 September 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, ealingfox said: Why would he? We haven't done anything interesting and our 2 main signings haven't started a game yet, so he's never seen them play. So 'interesting' was the benchmark... have you read his coverage re. Liverpool and Everton? Daka not being interesting says way more about you than the transfer itself Edited 2 September 2021 by turtmcfly
ealingfox Posted 2 September 2021 Posted 2 September 2021 35 minutes ago, turtmcfly said: So 'interesting' was the benchmark... have you read his coverage re. Liverpool and Everton? Daka not being interesting says way more about you than the transfer itself Everton's situation is more interesting because they've completely changed strategic direction and gone the full Burnley. We've done more or less what you'd expect us to. I'm sure I don't need to explain to you why Liverpool have their own section.
Ric Flair Posted 2 September 2021 Posted 2 September 2021 6 hours ago, ealingfox said: Everton's situation is more interesting because they've completely changed strategic direction and gone the full Burnley. We've done more or less what you'd expect us to. I'm sure I don't need to explain to you why Liverpool have their own section. In which case why would any articles ever be written about us since we've become consistently good?
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