reynard Posted 23 January 2022 Posted 23 January 2022 There's a lot of hot air frankly about not very much. Any of us with a brain cell know and understand the limitations of the club and so do players and so do their agents which is exactly why we won't generally be able hold onto our best players for more than a few seasons. A bit like Daka. I read he's Vardy's successor when the truth is that if he performs to that level he won't be here very long. I'm not saying Rodgers gets everything right or that sometimes he couldn't do better but if we had similar calibre managers to him throughout the whole of the last 50 plus years I've been watching us we'd have a far greater legacy in terms of football success and thereby a far higher global profile than we do right now.
matty98 Posted 23 January 2022 Posted 23 January 2022 He can fvck right off coming out with shite like that, get rid. Had enough of his loser mentality. We have one of the best squads in the league.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 23 January 2022 Posted 23 January 2022 14 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: It could’ve been so much better, but yeah be happy with what we’ve got. It’s not worth stressing over. Oh I don’t stress over it The most annoying part is reading posts that assume you only started supporting them in 2016 because you’ve dared to question Sir Brendan Rodgers
TJB-fox Posted 23 January 2022 Posted 23 January 2022 Everything Rodgers says in the press is carefully thought out and usually done to back up his players. His man management is spot on. Presume he’s come out with that to ease expectations and pressure on the squad. As for those of you getting genuinely riled up over those words, have a day off 👍 1 1
BKLFox Posted 23 January 2022 Posted 23 January 2022 37 minutes ago, BigGibbo said: Psychology/mentality is 90% of football at this level. As I've said all along Rodger's never believed. Even though given the faltering circumstances of the big 6 over at least 2 seasons we were in the best 4 teams and arguably underachieved. As good as a coach as he is I guarantee in the season we won the league if he was the manager instead of Ranieri we would have finished 5th and it would have been lauded as a great achievement with such a comparably poor squad relative to the big 6. 10% ability 🤷♂️
Dahnsouff Posted 23 January 2022 Posted 23 January 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, foxile5 said: He's not 'managing expectations' though, he's putting a limit of success to improve the perception of his performance. He's been a good manager for us but we know he's an arrogant self promoter. Sadly the results have turned sour and he's looking to blame anything but himself. Not OUR expectations, those of the players to alleviate pressure. Edited 23 January 2022 by Dahnsouff
FoxyJim1987 Posted 23 January 2022 Posted 23 January 2022 47 minutes ago, jim5000 said: Publicly saying ‘we’ve peaked, we’re not going to get that high again’ is not going to get players like Tielemans renewing their contracts It's just realism and actually some fans should listen to him and take heed. We ain't a top 6 team we have over achieved massively since the he took over, and this season with the amount of injuries, half way up ain't bad. Tielemans is not going to sign he would have done by now. 2 1
sacreblueits442 Posted 23 January 2022 Posted 23 January 2022 4 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Not OUR expectations, those of the players to alleviate pressure. ...that is one interpretation, conversely it could be a "..come and get me" call!!! United looking to the possibility of bringing in Ten Hag, forcing his hand.
Dahnsouff Posted 23 January 2022 Posted 23 January 2022 Just now, sacreblueits442 said: ...that is one interpretation, conversely it could be a "..come and get me" call!!! United looking to the possibility of bringing in Ten Hag, forcing his hand. Never going to happen, no way Utd would want him, it’s all media fluff
ronnup Posted 23 January 2022 Posted 23 January 2022 He's right. But it doesn't need saying. Could be challenging the squad to prove him wrong
sacreblueits442 Posted 23 January 2022 Posted 23 January 2022 1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said: Never going to happen, no way Utd would want him, it’s all media fluff ...yeah..but does he know that!!! 1
coolhandfox Posted 23 January 2022 Posted 23 January 2022 54 minutes ago, BigGibbo said: Psychology/mentality is 90% of football at this level. As I've said all along Rodger's never believed. Even though given the faltering circumstances of the big 6 over at least 2 seasons we were in the best 4 teams and arguably underachieved. As good as a coach as he is I guarantee in the season we won the league if he was the manager instead of Ranieri we would have finished 5th and it would have been lauded as a great achievement with such a comparably poor squad relative to the big 6. How do you know? How do you know it 90%? How do you know what he's believed unless you can read his mind?
CrispinLA in Texas Posted 23 January 2022 Posted 23 January 2022 Think he saying he's can't do anything more with Leicester and with him constantly saying that we financially constrained compared to other clubs spending, he'd love to move to a club like Chelsea where he can spend 70m on each player 2
sacreblueits442 Posted 23 January 2022 Posted 23 January 2022 58 minutes ago, Webbo said: Brendan could recite the alphabet and some on here would read their own personal bugbear into it. ...yeah, we don't like "N.or F. or C!!!
don_danbury Posted 23 January 2022 Posted 23 January 2022 36 minutes ago, FoxyJim1987 said: It's just realism and actually some fans should listen to him and take heed. We ain't a top 6 team we have over achieved massively since the he took over, and this season with the amount of injuries, half way up ain't bad. Tielemans is not going to sign he would have done by now. He came in to get top 6 and he did that by finishing a few points ahead of 7th. Stop talking rubbish about him over achieving. 3
Ric Flair Posted 23 January 2022 Posted 23 January 2022 2 hours ago, st albans fox said: Given the season thus far, is that a surprise? and what else did he say that wasn’t put in the article ??? As I keep saying, it's not a surprise but that doesn't mean it's the correct reaction from our manager. I'll repeat, this is a shift from the language and attitude he had when he first came here and when we weren't being questioned as bottlers/potential failures. As @Chocolate Teapot says, hes gone in to protection mode of himself. Hes a great manager and coach when yhings are fresh and theres no real spotlight and question marks but from a psychological point of view his reaction and decision making this season arent that of an elite football manager sadly. He's very good for us but far better managers have seen things go stale and the spark go out at clubs and move on or are moved on and he's not above that. The way he is talking, I think whether deliberate or sub conscious but he's checking out. 2
Deeg67 Posted 23 January 2022 Posted 23 January 2022 34 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said: Think he saying he's can't do anything more with Leicester and with him constantly saying that we financially constrained compared to other clubs spending, he'd love to move to a club like Chelsea where he can spend 70m on each player Too bad he's not a good enough manager for those clubs to want him. 3
Popular Post Ric Flair Posted 23 January 2022 Popular Post Posted 23 January 2022 59 minutes ago, FoxyJim1987 said: It's just realism and actually some fans should listen to him and take heed. We ain't a top 6 team we have over achieved massively since the he took over, and this season with the amount of injuries, half way up ain't bad. Tielemans is not going to sign he would have done by now. You are aware that realism is at complete odds with achievement and maximising performance? If he's right here, then does that mean he was wrong when he had very little caveat for caution or limitation when boasting about what his ambitions were here? On the face of it some may read these recent soundbites and say there's very little difference and it's fans with an agenda or grudge that are clouding their views, but subtlety is often all it takes in the human mind to miss those marginal gains. Do you think realism has got these footballers to where they are now, did realism get them here as kids when wanting to be a professional footballer? Did realism get Rodgers to winning trophies as an unproven young ex player working his way up as coach? He ought to be aware of how influential he is and can be to these players, he's already helped maximise their ability collectively and individually and he doesn't need to make excuses because of a threat to his current regime. This is crunch time for him here, his attitude is that of someone who's on the journey out of here. 5 1
BigGibbo Posted 23 January 2022 Posted 23 January 2022 1 hour ago, BKLFox said: 10% ability 🤷♂️ 44 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: How do you know? How do you know it 90%? How do you know what he's believed unless you can read his mind? Obviously if I tried to quantify it at exactly 43.333333% or something it would detract from the point, but what I'm saying is at the elite level where (bar a handful of generational wizards) the natural ability & work ethic isn't that far apart, mentality is everything. He's exuded lack of ambition and subservience to the big 6 ever since I first saw him. Now he's come out and admitted as much. Saying we've reached our peak with the squad and resources he has. Basically advertising that he could do more with more like he has done since he arrived. Essentially saying our premier League win is an aberration that we had no right to even strive for thereby ensuring any such overachievement is impossible under him.
Daggers Posted 23 January 2022 Posted 23 January 2022 2 hours ago, Webbo said: Brendan could recite the alphabet and some on here would read their own personal bugbear into it. He'd probably say Z instead of Z. I hate it when that happens. 1
Popular Post BigGibbo Posted 23 January 2022 Popular Post Posted 23 January 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: You are aware that realism is at complete odds with achievement and maximising performance? If he's right here, then does that mean he was wrong when he had very little caveat for caution or limitation when boasting about what his ambitions were here? On the face of it some may read these recent soundbites and say there's very little difference and it's fans with an agenda or grudge that are clouding their views, but subtlety is often all it takes in the human mind to miss those marginal gains. Do you think realism has got these footballers to where they are now, did realism get them here as kids when wanting to be a professional footballer? Did realism get Rodgers to winning trophies as an unproven young ex player working his way up as coach? He ought to be aware of how influential he is and can be to these players, he's already helped maximise their ability collectively and individually and he doesn't need to make excuses because of a threat to his current regime. This is crunch time for him here, his attitude is that of someone who's on the journey out of here. Exactly. He's not got a single one of our players on peak form for over a season let alone the whole XI or squad so the audacity of him to say we've peaked. He's just protecting his ego and his delusions of a summer move to Man U. Edited 23 January 2022 by BigGibbo 6
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 23 January 2022 Posted 23 January 2022 Getting fed up of his negativity when we're ahead. He has strong points but is so inflexible and it costs us time and time again Not saying he should go but it is so infuriating
Gav_LCFC14 Posted 23 January 2022 Posted 23 January 2022 Tactical nightmare. It's all self inflicted.
tetly Posted 23 January 2022 Posted 23 January 2022 He needs to stop fvcking changing the formation. We are so poor clearing the ball to Saftey panic sets in and mistakes happen. He is partly to blame and the same sh1t keeps happening. It’s getting to be a real concern.
lifted*fox Posted 23 January 2022 Posted 23 January 2022 defended rodgers after spurs match as that was individual player errors but his subs today have been absolutely ****ing pathetic as somone said in match thread - we're ****ing WANK at defending so why the **** are we setting up to defend AT HOME to ****ing Brighton at 1-0. utter dog shit. rodgers needs a ****ing head wobble, top needs to head down to the office and kick shit outta him 3
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