Soumaré (signed)

[Lineker's Left Foot]

16 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said:

This was on the basis we were odds on for top 4, we are nowhere near as attractive in the Europa 

No it wasn’t 

[Babylon]

24 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said:

That was after winning the league, we can pretend it doesn't matter all we like but the fact of the matter is the best players want to play in the champions league. I personally don't understand why, we would have likely been in it for one season and not got out of the group but it is priceless in attracting and retaining players including Tielemans.

Because people are actually overplaying the significance of it some what. It's one of numerous factors players will look at, especially the players we're looking at.

 

We're successful as we go for players before they are established, so in general the bigger clubs just above us don't go for them, they prefer ready made players. So being a highly successful bridging club is a massive tick in our box, allowing them to put themselves in a shop window and prove themselves to those bigger clubs. 

 

Money, will always be one of the largest factors. 

Chances of achieving there. 

The shop window it puts you in. 

Do they play in Europe

Where the club is

Who the manager is

 

etc

 

I mean, people aren't falling over themselves to play for Olympiacos, Marseille, Istanbul, Dynamo, Istanbul, Lokomotiv, Bruce, Zenit, Rennes, Crassandor, Shaktor etc are they?

 

Hey X player, come and play in the premier league for 75k a week or play in the champions league with Borussia Mönchengladbach on 30k for perhaps one season.... Errrrrr.... I'll take the money thanks. 

 

The reality is, there are probably just a handful of clubs we're competing against for players who can a) pay the fees we can b) pay the wages we can c) are seen as a great setup with chance of regular football d) provide a great bridge to the next set of clubs up. 

Edited 24 May 2021 by Babylon

[Strokes]

56 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

It's amazing to think that the only player out of our current lot that joined us to play champions league football was Papy Mendy.

Wilf?

[StanSP]

4 minutes ago, Strokes said:

Wilf?

Ricardo as well surely

[Strokes]

1 minute ago, StanSP said:

Ricardo as well surely

Ricardo signed 18/19 didn’t he?

[Alf Bentley]

4 minutes ago, Strokes said:

Wilf?

 

He joined at Christmas of 16-17, didn't he?

 

That gave him the opportunity of playing in the CL last 16 - and quarters, as it turned out.

But, in terms of league position then, it looked more like he was joining for Championship than Champions' League football.... 

 

 

[Bert]

1 hour ago, Babylon said:

Because people are actually overplaying the significance of it some what. It's one of numerous factors players will look at, especially the players we're looking at.

 

We're successful as we go for players before they are established, so in general the bigger clubs just above us don't go for them, they prefer ready made players. So being a highly successful bridging club is a massive tick in our box, allowing them to put themselves in a shop window and prove themselves to those bigger clubs. 

 

Money, will always be one of the largest factors. 

Chances of achieving there. 

The shop window it puts you in. 

Do they play in Europe

Where the club is

Who the manager is

 

etc

 

I mean, people aren't falling over themselves to play for Olympiacos, Marseille, Istanbul, Dynamo, Istanbul, Lokomotiv, Bruce, Zenit, Rennes, Crassandor, Shaktor etc are they?

 

Hey X player, come and play in the premier league for 75k a week or play in the champions league with Borussia Mönchengladbach on 30k for perhaps one season.... Errrrrr.... I'll take the money thanks. 

 

The reality is, there are probably just a handful of clubs we're competing against for players who can a) pay the fees we can b) pay the wages we can c) are seen as a great setup with chance of regular football d) provide a great bridge to the next set of clubs up. 

Great post this. 
 

 

[Bert]

35 minutes ago, Strokes said:

Ricardo signed 18/19 didn’t he?

Yep. Left champions league football for us! 

[Danny280995]

Youri clapping and crying yesterday all by himself....he's going, Soumare is his replacement 

[OhYesNdidi]

1 minute ago, Danny280995 said:

Youri clapping and crying yesterday all by himself....he's going, Soumare is his replacement 

If youri is leaving, we’ve yet to buy his replacement 🤷‍♂️ I don’t think we’d sell him anyway 

[Danny280995]

Soumare is the replacement, the signs are all there, Clapping by him and crying and waving....its pretty obvious 

[whitlock]

3 minutes ago, Danny280995 said:

Youri clapping and crying yesterday all by himself....he's going, Soumare is his replacement 

At Wembley, Youri spent a lot of time clapping the fans on this own at times. I remember him being with the celebrations and then went off to clap on his own. I think he's just a passionate guy who wanted to get the club into the Champions League. No one will know what the motivation is, he might have wanted to get the club into the CL for Top, got emotional because we didnt... i don't know.

 

But, i wouldn't read into this that much.

 

Percy mentioned about a new contract is close, lets wait and see on that.

[OhYesNdidi]

7 minutes ago, whitlock said:

At Wembley, Youri spent a lot of time clapping the fans on this own at times. I remember him being with the celebrations and then went off to clap on his own. I think he's just a passionate guy who wanted to get the club into the Champions League. No one will know what the motivation is, he might have wanted to get the club into the CL for Top, got emotional because we didnt... i don't know.

 

But, i wouldn't read into this that much.

 

Percy mentioned about a new contract is close, lets wait and see on that.

He was also doing the TV interviews straight after the game 

[SouthStandUpperTier]

Anyone that thinks Soumare is a direct replacement for Youri clearly doesn't understand football. Totally different kind of midfielder.

[UniFox21]

15 minutes ago, Danny280995 said:

Soumare is the replacement, the signs are all there, Clapping by him and crying and waving....its pretty obvious 

Pretty obvious? All highly linked journalists have said he's signing a new deal. 

Chillwell was highly linked list year, Maguire the same the year before.

[ClaphamFox]

23 minutes ago, Danny280995 said:

Soumare is the replacement, the signs are all there, Clapping by him and crying and waving....its pretty obvious 

This is very silly. 

[Strokes]

10 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

Anyone that thinks Soumare is a direct replacement for Youri clearly doesn't understand football. Totally different kind of midfielder.

Youri just isn’t easily replaced.

[SouthStandUpperTier]

6 minutes ago, Strokes said:

Youri just isn’t easily replaced.

Certainly not by someone who has 1 goal and 2 assists in his entire club career so far.

[coolhandfox]

People love to create a drama out of nothing.

 

Best to deal with fact rather than worry about unknowns.

[happy85]

KDH can easily being moulded into YT 

 

We have beast in our hands 

[murphy]

3 hours ago, Babylon said:

Because people are actually overplaying the significance of it some what. It's one of numerous factors players will look at, especially the players we're looking at.

 

We're successful as we go for players before they are established, so in general the bigger clubs just above us don't go for them, they prefer ready made players. So being a highly successful bridging club is a massive tick in our box, allowing them to put themselves in a shop window and prove themselves to those bigger clubs. 

 

Money, will always be one of the largest factors. 

Chances of achieving there. 

The shop window it puts you in. 

Do they play in Europe

Where the club is

Who the manager is

 

etc

 

I mean, people aren't falling over themselves to play for Olympiacos, Marseille, Istanbul, Dynamo, Istanbul, Lokomotiv, Bruce, Zenit, Rennes, Crassandor, Shaktor etc are they?

 

Hey X player, come and play in the premier league for 75k a week or play in the champions league with Borussia Mönchengladbach on 30k for perhaps one season.... Errrrrr.... I'll take the money thanks. 

 

The reality is, there are probably just a handful of clubs we're competing against for players who can a) pay the fees we can b) pay the wages we can c) are seen as a great setup with chance of regular football d) provide a great bridge to the next set of clubs up. 

All good points but I think our transfer policy has moved on as the team has.  We are reportedly looking at Gosens, Soumare and still linked with Trincao. players that might expect CL to move on.  Failure to qualify also diminishes the budget  of course.

[HoChiMinhFOX]

2 minutes ago, happy85 said:

KDH can easily being moulded into YT 

 

We have beast in our hands 

There's about a years age difference. If KDH was anywhere near the player youri is, he would be in the team already. 

[OhYesNdidi]

7 minutes ago, happy85 said:

KDH can easily being moulded into YT 

 

We have beast in our hands 

What, Tielemans is world class and probably in our top 3 best players since promotion 

[Bert]

5 minutes ago, HoChiMinhFOX said:

There's about a years age difference. If KDH was anywhere near the player youri is, he would be in the team already. 

One of them was playing champions league at 16. One of them has only just had their first year of professional football. 

[LCFCCHRIS]

6 minutes ago, HoChiMinhFOX said:

There's about a years age difference. If KDH was anywhere near the player youri is, he would be in the team already. 

Players can sometimes step up quick when given the role as a top flight player, like JJ when forced into playing more than he would have. Hope that's the case here. Really depends how they can adapt. The few times I watched KDH he really stood out in that Luton team.