drumbeat Posted 2 October 2021 Posted 2 October 2021 Just now, Cadno'r Cymoedd said: Did Rodgers (or Puel) really make an effort with Gray? I think you could assume they did. Maybe not the right kind of effort but Gray clearly had skills and they would have wanted to bring them out and on to the pitch. Wanting to change has to come from the player. Maybe Gray was in a comfortable rut he wasn't and had no motivation to change. The German move maybe was the jolt he needed, provided the motivation, and Everton are now reaping the benefit of that. Gray's certainly not the first player, nor will he be the last, to find form after a move. It happens, I don't think we can blame ourselves or rue our bad luck or whatever. I'm pleased for him.... as long as he doesn't score against us!
An Sionnach Posted 2 October 2021 Posted 2 October 2021 9 minutes ago, Corky said: If we'd kept Puel he could've been up front instead of Vardy and Iheanacho. But everyone wanted him out. Claude was a bloody good player but I don't think he could do 90 mins. these days.
The Bear Posted 2 October 2021 Posted 2 October 2021 7 minutes ago, Suzie the Fox said: Can't decide which 3pm game to watch.. I can assure you don't watch ours against Newcastle. We always finish 1-1. 1
South Shire Fox Posted 2 October 2021 Posted 2 October 2021 Looking at teams like Everton and West Ham i just dont see that kind of fight and determination to get results like they do in our side. We are far too soft and weak which is very worrying 3
Paninistickers Posted 2 October 2021 Posted 2 October 2021 Just now, Leicester_Loyal said: I really think we could be struggling to even finish in the top 10 this season, we look miles off the pace of the top 7/8. It happens. We are due a fallow season. Football.is ever evolving. A more direct approach is currently working. We are currently plodding through techniques that are now two or three seasons out of date. We can do this, eventually. Wilf, Ricky, vards Castagne, Nacho, Lookman and Barnes are all perfectly suited for a more aggressive, front foot style 1
Matt Posted 2 October 2021 Posted 2 October 2021 6 minutes ago, Aus Fox said: or Ranieri or Shakespeare don’t forget Gray had 4 different managers whilst here and they all had the same opinion of him. In Ranieri's defence he was bought half way through the title winning season and it was viewed as a signing for the future/to break through in future season, personally I fully expected him to be loaned back to Birmingham. 1
Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 2 October 2021 Posted 2 October 2021 1 minute ago, Matt said: In Ranieri's defence he was bought half way through the title winning season and it was viewed as a signing for the future/to break through in future season, personally I fully expected him to be loaned back to Birmingham. Agree. And Shakey really just tried to keep to the PL winning formula and team as far as possible so didn't really invest in him. Can accept that he may well have become disillusioned by the end of his time here. But clearly the guy is talented and Benitez is bringing the best out of him. 2
Matt Posted 2 October 2021 Posted 2 October 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Paninistickers said: It happens. We are due a fallow season. Football.is ever evolving. A more direct approach is currently working. We are currently plodding through techniques that are now two or three seasons out of date. We can do this, eventually. Wilf, Ricky, vards Castagne, Nacho, Lookman and Barnes are all perfectly suited for a more aggressive, front foot style Arguably we were ahead of our time but apparently that style got 'found out' and we ripped it up immediately and we went to the shite we're currently seeing regardless of our squads abilities and strengths because 'it's the way the game should be played', it could be said we've been found out quicker in this style but we've persisted with it for far longer. As you say I believe a change in styles is coming and this digusting, dire, boring style is now changing and becoming out of date, The evolution/cycle/change can't come soon enough! Edited 2 October 2021 by Matt 1
st albans fox Posted 2 October 2021 Posted 2 October 2021 20 minutes ago, Aus Fox said: or Ranieri or Shakespeare don’t forget Gray had 4 different managers whilst here and they all had the same opinion of him. Puel rated him and he was still raw under shakey brendan had the issue of choosing between him and Harvey he had his chances on the right but that’s not his preferred side 1
BKLFox Posted 2 October 2021 Posted 2 October 2021 22 minutes ago, Suzie the Fox said: Can't decide which 3pm game to watch.. Tigers v Sarries 1 2
AjcW Posted 2 October 2021 Posted 2 October 2021 23 minutes ago, Suzie the Fox said: Can't decide which 3pm game to watch.. Leeds Watford has goals potential 1
Paninistickers Posted 2 October 2021 Posted 2 October 2021 3 minutes ago, AjcW said: Leeds Watford has goals potential Would love Leeds to continue to struggle 2
Fox92 Posted 2 October 2021 Posted 2 October 2021 15 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said: Benítez is a great manager He is. I never really wanted him here but what he's done says it all really. Titles at Valencia, CL and FA Cup at Liverpool, Europa League at Chelsea and guided a below average Newcastle to 10th following their promotion. 4
Suzie the Fox Posted 2 October 2021 Posted 2 October 2021 4 minutes ago, AjcW said: Leeds Watford has goals potential Yup, thats the one I went for.
Fox92 Posted 2 October 2021 Posted 2 October 2021 1 minute ago, Paninistickers said: Would love Leeds to continue to struggle Same. Be interesting if Watford win at Elland Road.
PhillippaT Posted 2 October 2021 Posted 2 October 2021 1 minute ago, Fox92 said: Same. Be interesting if Watford win at Elland Road. I wonder if some of the people I knew are still living in Leeds? If so - I hope they lose too
jammie82uk Posted 2 October 2021 Posted 2 October 2021 Chelsea score from a corner, keeper no chance of saving, Azpilicueta standing in an offside position in front of the keeper 1
weller54 Posted 2 October 2021 Posted 2 October 2021 2 hours ago, Aus Fox said: But you’re judging those players you’ve mentioned on 6 games! We’ve seen three of the four players you mentioned week in week out and Maddison when on form is on another level to the other 3! I’ll have 50 quid with you that we finish above Everton and another 50 that of the 4 players you’ve mentioned Maddison will have the most combined goals and assists by the end of May. I'm feeling very guilty about taking this one sided bet off you!!!...are you sure you don't want to retract it? Have you seen Townsend and Grays stats compared with Maddison and Perez's already this season?.. 😂.... I understand if your statement was a bit of a rush of blood to the head?
drumbeat Posted 2 October 2021 Posted 2 October 2021 Great run from Rudiger, puts Lukaku on but won't count. Would have been an excellent goal. I'm no Chelsea fan but I do like the way they play; the movement and interchange is superb. They're physical, just a bit nasty and so so quick on the break.
Bats8711 Posted 2 October 2021 Posted 2 October 2021 That’s what VARs there for. If people get upset about that they’re lost.
StanSP Posted 2 October 2021 Posted 2 October 2021 Full marks for rattling the Utd fans no doubt, but not so much execution. Vardy will do it properly in a couple of weeks 1
Number 6 Posted 2 October 2021 Posted 2 October 2021 1 hour ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said: Gray's fault then. 🤔🤣 Weird take from my post. Nobodies fault. He doesn't suit the way we want to play and we've had success over the past 2 seasons playing the way we have. Was the right time to part company for both parties. 1
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