Wolves (H) pre-match 14/08/21 at 3pm

[HybridFox]

I would drop Vardy and play Daka and Iheanacho. 

 

Won't happen though

[KFS]

1 minute ago, KFS said:

Has to be with some real damage coming off the bench. Daka, Soumare, KDH all options to come on and change the game. Wtf  

I missed Iheanacho… WTF  

[sacreblueits442]

4 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

Pretty much this. Only exception for me might be if it's either a CB with a lot of Prem experience, like Tarkowski, or Kabak who Cags will have played with before. Even in the case of the latter, a few days training probably not enough. 

 

I don't see anyone getting ahead of Perez at short notice, especially given he's back linking up with Ricardo down that side. Whatever people think of Perez, he doesn't get enough credit for helping Ricardo play probably the best football of his career. 

..on the contrary...I  think Ricardo is helping to keep Perez in the team!!!

 They do link up but that is because Ricardo is a willing runner and brave enough on the ball when in possession. If you go back to the opportunity in the first half, when Ricardo played him into space on the right of the penalty area, and he had so much time to pick someone out, but he chose to put the ball in an area, which in all intents and purposes, became a backpass to their keeper. 

  Ricardo makes him look better than he is, and he needs to take some responsibility of the ball when he is in possession and link better with the team. So long as Ricardo is there as an option for him, he will continue to keep his role.

[Deeg67]

4 hours ago, TrentFox said:

I think we’re seeing different things. I see no evidence of what you describe. Albrighton works harder, tackles harder, has better end product and better vision. But it’s all about opinions. We just have different ones. Brendan seems to agree  with you, so who am I to argue? 😂

Truthfully neither of them are starting caliber players on a side with European aspirations.  This is the problem with continually ignoring the need to sign a true RW - you can say Daka and Soumare were priorities, but where do they fit when Rodgers defaults to his base 11?  If we'd had a decent RW we might have scored a couple in the first half, with ManC being as disorganized as they were.

 

I like Soumare and Daka a lot, but the most important way to get better is to improve the starting 11.  It's also a big concern that if Barnes gets injured, we really have no option but to abandon wingers altogether because we have no backup for him on the left.  

[lnkstern]

4 hours ago, TrentFox said:

I think we’re seeing different things. I see no evidence of what you describe. Albrighton works harder, tackles harder, has better end product and better vision. But it’s all about opinions. We just have different ones. Brendan seems to agree  with you, so who am I to argue? 😂

 

Hang on now!

 

A reasonable and respectful difference of opinion, with no name calling or gratuitous insults?  Who the heck do you think you are, Trent?

 

[STUHILL]

5 minutes ago, Deeg67 said:

Barnes gets injured, we really have no option but to abandon wingers altogether because we have no backup for him on the left. 

This is a big concern. We ideally need to have a starting RW who is also capable of playing on the LW too. Dan James can and has that all important pace but perhaps we can do better still.

 

I wouldn't rule out Castagne/Ricardo combo down the right though. Rodgers has mentioned it before and although neither are wingers, both do have qualities that could cause teams problems. 

[Deeg67]

Just now, STUHILL said:

This is a big concern. We ideally need to have a starting RW who is also capable of playing on the LW too. Dan James can and has that all important pace but perhaps we can do better still.

 

I wouldn't rule out Castagne/Ricardo combo down the right though. Rodgers has mentioned it before and although neither are wingers, both do have qualities that could cause teams problems. 

Terrible option.  They're vastly better as fullbacks.

[STUHILL]

1 minute ago, Deeg67 said:

Terrible option.  They're vastly better as fullbacks.

Don't disagree with you there but I bet we see it at some stage this season 

[Deeg67]

6 minutes ago, STUHILL said:

Don't disagree with you there but I bet we see it at some stage this season 

The big question for me is how we line up with two strikers without 5 at the back, because it seems pretty obvious that's the best use of our current talent.  Some sort of 4-4-2 clearly, though I know everyone hates it, or a 4-3-3 with either Daka or Kelechi playing out of position.

[STUHILL]

Just now, Deeg67 said:

The big question for me is how we line up with two strikers without 5 at the back, because it seems pretty obvious that's the best use of our current talent.  Some sort of 4-4-2 clearly, though I know everyone hates it, or a 4-3-3 with either Daka or Kelechi playing out of position.

It's a headache for sure. Not to mention how we fit Maddison in as well if we go with 2 strikers. 

 

I think we will be looking at two main systems that Rodgers constantly switches between. Similar to what he did today with how we started and then how we finished the game. 

[Deeg67]

Another consideration/concern is that so far, Kelechi and Daka look to have much better chemistry with each other than either does with Vards.

[volpeazzurro]

1 hour ago, Deeg67 said:

The big question for me is how we line up with two strikers without 5 at the back, because it seems pretty obvious that's the best use of our current talent.  Some sort of 4-4-2 clearly, though I know everyone hates it, or a 4-3-3 with either Daka or Kelechi playing out of position.

I think if Barnes was injured or required resting forexample, 433 is entirely possible with Vardy, Iheanacho and Daka. Vardy is very comfortable pulling wide at times on the left and can cause havoc and Daka too should be able to do that occasionally on the right.

 

A midfield 3 of Ndidi, Tielemans and Soumare would provide ample cover for whoever is chosen at right and left back to also occasionally add width. It would certainly, in my opinion, be preferable to the debilitating 5 at the back employed last season with makeshift centre halves, makeshift wing backs and a subsequent weakened midfield which, when combined, appeared to lead to a slow motion cumbersome mess whereby nobody appeared comfortable or capable in their roles. The last 2 games alone have also shown how much more solid defensively we are with a 4 at the back and how much more fluid we look (even with a supposed squad player at centre half).

[NaijaFox]

2 hours ago, Deeg67 said:

Truthfully neither of them are starting caliber players on a side with European aspirations.  This is the problem with continually ignoring the need to sign a true RW - you can say Daka and Soumare were priorities, but where do they fit when Rodgers defaults to his base 11?  If we'd had a decent RW we might have scored a couple in the first half, with ManC being as disorganized as they were.

 

I like Soumare and Daka a lot, but the most important way to get better is to improve the starting 11.  It's also a big concern that if Barnes gets injured, we really have no option but to abandon wingers altogether because we have no backup for him on the left.  

The starting 11 was not our biggest downfall the last two seasons. Dearth of quality depth was, and the signing of Daka, Soumare and Bertrand squarely addresses it. 

 

I would still hope that we sign a quality RW this window, but frankly even if we do not (and personally I do not want to see desperation drive us to another Under-type signing), the team has been substantively IMPROVED from last season by redressing our biggest shortcomings in the past two otherwise brilliant seasons.

 

Yes, if Barnes gets injured again, we would be compelled to play a different formation and consequently in a different manner, but that is not necessarily a bad thing (we will likely variously do so this season irregardless, depending on different circumstances and/or opposition) nor should it make us a poorer side.

 

Edited 8 August 2021 by NaijaFox

[TrentFox]

3 hours ago, lnkstern said:

 

Hang on now!

 

A reasonable and respectful difference of opinion, with no name calling or gratuitous insults?  Who the heck do you think you are, Trent?

 

Sorry. Poor of me. I’ll try to do better next time. 😞

[foxfanazer]

Usually 0-0 against these lot but we really must be looking to take the game to them.

 

What are you saying @The Bear?

[UniFox21]

Start with the same 11, bringing on Daka and Nacho for Vardy and Maddison around 60. 

[Pliskin]

Is this full capacity? 

[Koke]

11 hours ago, StriderHiryu said:

Any idea how Wolves have been lining up in pre-season? Nuno was an infamously defensive manager but supposedly their new manager is an attacking one. So maybe we won't see yet another 0-0 between the two teams

 

@The Bear

[Livid]

As long as Ricky doesn’t try to do anything too clever when he picks up the ball after one of our corners we’ll be fine. 

[jeffschlupp]

Pawson ref. FFS

[Unabomber]

13 minutes ago, jeffschlupp said:

Pawson ref. FFS

That’s it the game is already lost. 

[Bert]

How’s pre season been for you @The Bear? 

[moore_94]

On 08/08/2021 at 08:58, Pliskin said:

Is this full capacity? 

Yep, we only have 95 tickets left (not even reached General Sale) and Wolves have sold out their allocation as well

Edited 9 August 2021 by moore_94

[FoxinNotts]

I’d go with 3-5-2;

 

Jakupovic

 

Amartey Benkovic Soyuncu

 

Albrighton KDH Choudhury Praet Thomas

Perez Iheanacho

 

 

 

[Cincinnati Fox]

Getting diving!!! It’s pawson