Covid regulations on Saturday. What do I need to know?

[justfoxes]

3 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

So proof of vaccine through a website? Can you not just produce the card that you are given when you are vaccinated that shows your vaccine batch numbers?

Some won’t accept it as it’s not got all your details on the website is a Government webpage linked to the NHS vaccine database

Edited 10 August 2021 by justfoxes

[Lesterlad]

My grandson and I got to the ground approx 4pm no one asked to see any test results or proof of vaccine etc. We entered in gate j 

[TiffToff88]

8 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

So proof of vaccine through a website? Can you not just produce the card that you are given when you are vaccinated that shows your vaccine batch numbers?

Too easily forged. The app/website needs you to enter your unique NHS number so not so easy to fake

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

Ok thanks that’s helpful on the website

[goose2010]

If you have been vaccinated 2 weeks prior to Saturday just get the NHS app. Your covid passport is on there. 

 

I had to show mine on Saturday at Wembley they were quite strict where we were which was surprising but definitely made me feel a bit safer. 

[GingerrrFox]

The point is, the club haven’t informed everyone that a negative test is required to attend the game on Saturday so it’s highly unlikely that people will have done one. 
 

If they are randomly checking people they need to announce that a lateral flow test needs to be done ASAP. 

[Unabomber]

5 minutes ago, GingerrrFox said:

The point is, the club haven’t informed everyone that a negative test is required to attend the game on Saturday so it’s highly unlikely that people will have done one. 
 

If they are randomly checking people they need to announce that a lateral flow test needs to be done ASAP. 

Yeah exactly they need to announce something by today really if they want to implement it.

[Motty]

23 hours ago, davieG said:

As someone who has been isolating since March 2020 and visited my first shop/supermarket last week I find this all a bit worrying. I hope I haven't wasted the last 15months only to catch it due to the shambolic instructions/controls of the government, FA, PL and LCFC.

Trouble is even if everyone was checked on the way in for twojabs or lateral flow. There is nothing to prove the lateral flow test was negative. Even the twojabs only diminishes the chances of passing it on.

All you can do is wear your mask and carry hand sanitiser and antibacterial wipes. The trouble is even shopping you are touching soiled products.

Anyone who is vulnerable has a really difficult situation to live with. I'm 58 and overweight and had covid, luckily I was fine just felt tired and lacking strength for a few weeks. 

The problem is when does isolation and not having any quality of life come to an impasse. 

[davieG]

10 minutes ago, Motty said:

Trouble is even if everyone was checked on the way in for twojabs or lateral flow. There is nothing to prove the lateral flow test was negative. Even the twojabs only diminishes the chances of passing it on.

All you can do is wear your mask and carry hand sanitiser and antibacterial wipes. The trouble is even shopping you are touching soiled products.

Anyone who is vulnerable has a really difficult situation to live with. I'm 58 and overweight and had covid, luckily I was fine just felt tired and lacking strength for a few weeks. 

The problem is when does isolation and not having any quality of life come to an impasse. 

You're correct but we make decisions based on what we believe are the rules set in place if people are not abiding by those and we don't know how many then the decision you have made becomes more risky than perhaps you were prepared to accept.

[Ashley]

3 hours ago, shailen said:

Premier League: Covid-19 status spot-checks introduced for first games of season - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58153110

 

 

 

2 hours ago, davieG said:

Premier League: Covid-19 status spot-checks introduced for first games of season

 

The 2021-22 Premier League season begins with Brentford v Arsenal on Friday

Premier League fans will face random spot-checks of their Covid-19 status at grounds in the first few matchdays of the season, the league says.

The top flight announced protocols for the new season, saying fans must be prepared to prove they are fully vaccinated or have had a negative lateral flow test in the last 48 hours.

The league is preparing in case it becomes mandatory for all fans to have their coronavirus status checked.

The 2021/2022 season begins on Friday.

Brentford host Arsenal at 20:00 BST in the opening game.

 

Fans will be able to show their Covid-19 status using the NHS Covid pass through the NHS app or website.

The league said it "is working with clubs to introduce Covid-19 status checks in a staged way so there is the least disruption and maximum safety possible".

It added that fans would have to comply with a "supporter code of conduct", which includes wearing masks indoors, avoiding close contact with people they do not know and following one-way signage around stadiums.

Capacity limits were lifted by the government on 19 July but are now decided at local level, and it is still uncertain whether proof of vaccination will be required from the end of September.

Chelsea were the first club to say proof of vaccination or a recent negative test would be needed to enter its ground this season.

 

 

I'd like to see where it says that in T&C on our Season Tickets? 

[filbertway]

Jesus christ, that sounds like a fun experience

 

[David Hankey]

2 hours ago, GingerrrFox said:

It would be nice for the club to come out and say that everybody needs to test then, no point doing random checks if no one is aware they have to test. 

Surely, the Club is governed by the EPL proclamation. I don't understand why folk are getting so angst about. It's quite simple really.

Edited 10 August 2021 by David Hankey

[GingerrrFox]

3 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

Surely, the Club is governed by the EPL proclamation. I don't understand why folk are getting so angst about. It's quite simple really.

I’m not getting angsty at all but the club have released information already on how they would look at COVID protocols and there has been no mention of having to test. If that changes 4 days before the opening game of the season you would hope the club would announce this so people don’t end up in a situation where they are being challenged on the day about something that has not been made clear. 

 

[Wolfox]

3 hours ago, David Hankey said:

The "old dears" you disparagingly refer to wear masks for EVERYONE'S protection not just their own but folk who come within a 2 metre distance. To me that is a moral duty, particularly in confined spaces and not as you reckon out of selfishness. 

 

How many times have we seen on the news "youngsters" (under 30) lying on a hospital bed stating I wish I had had a jab and urging all and sundry to now have one. It is they who are selfish and a burden on the NHS.

Here is the point that is regularly missed

 

The “I’m not scared of COVID” brigade completely miss the point 

 

it’s an act of altruism not protection to wear a mask

 

The principal is to stop you spreading your germs not prevent you breathing in others germs

 

I’ve had it (early doors) and been double jabbed but will wear a mask in the concourse  

[David Hankey]

2 minutes ago, GingerrrFox said:

I’m not getting angsty at all but the club have released information already on how they would look at COVID protocols and there has been no mention of having to test. If that changes 4 days before the opening game of the season you would hope the club would announce this so people don’t end up in a situation where they are being challenged on the day about something that has not been made clear. 

 

I don't see these as being "challenged" at all. I've been vaccinated twice and can should proof. I keep the card in the same wallet as my season ticket and can flash it at a moment notice if need be. It really isn't an issue as far as I am concerned

[stripeyfox]

2 hours ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

So proof of vaccine through a website? Can you not just produce the card that you are given when you are vaccinated that shows your vaccine batch numbers?

the card is too easy to forge/duplicate and how would an individual venue be able to verify it's authenticity?

 

I am due to go to Butlins in September and the email from them asks for the NHS Covid passport and expressly states "your vaccination card will NOT be accepted"

 

[David Hankey]

1 minute ago, Wolfox said:

Here is the point that is regularly missed

 

The “I’m not scared of COVID” brigade completely miss the point 

 

it’s an act of altruism not protection to wear a mask

 

The principal is to stop you spreading your germs not prevent you breathing in others germs

 

I’ve had it (early doors) and been double jabbed but will wear a mask in the concourse  

The mask acts as a useful protection tool in stopping the spread of Covid-19. Even if you have been vaccinated twice you can still contract this disease but the likelihood of being hospitalised is pretty remote. I also keep a mask in my pocket for areas like a crowded concourse etc.

[moore_94]

12 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

I don't see these as being "challenged" at all. I've been vaccinated twice and can should proof. I keep the card in the same wallet as my season ticket and can flash it at a moment notice if need be. It really isn't an issue as far as I am concerned

Most mass events don’t take your vaccination card as proof

 

Like for Wembley it had to be proof of negative on a LFT or proof of vaccination through the app/official letter of proof

 

Currently I can’t use proof of vaccination on the app/the letter as although my 2nd jab is tomorrow it can’t be used as proof for another 14 days, and currently there has been nothing from the club about needing an LFT before Saturday, if I got spot checked I would be screwed - luckily because I know this could happen I will do one prior, but plenty of people won’t know about this because the club hasn’t said anything

Edited 10 August 2021 by moore_94

[GingerrrFox]

5 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

I don't see these as being "challenged" at all. I've been vaccinated twice and can should proof. I keep the card in the same wallet as my season ticket and can flash it at a moment notice if need be. It really isn't an issue as far as I am concerned

My point is that people who have only had 1 dose or no vaccine dose so far will have to as per the Premier League announcement today, show a negative test result if picked up in these random spot checks.

 

So if you’ve already read the club information and that doesn’t say you need a negative test you are relying on people reading this news update to know that they have to test before Saturday. The club need to make sure they announce this so there is no confusion. 

[Babylon]

2 hours ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

So proof of vaccine through a website? Can you not just produce the card that you are given when you are vaccinated that shows your vaccine batch numbers?

The NHS App (not the covid one) provides you with a QR code (or even a downloadable version), that you present. So if you have a smart phone, just download that. 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

31 minutes ago, Babylon said:

The NHS App (not the covid one) provides you with a QR code (or even a downloadable version), that you present. So if you have a smart phone, just download that. 

Yes just got it thanks. I wonder how many won’t have this though, because I only have as I stumbled across the info here from you kind folks…

[sacreblueits442]

7 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

I know what you mean, even though I was one of the many to fiddle the tests. 

 

It's more a case of highlighting the absurdity rather than a wanton disregard for public safety (in my own case, I regged myself as negative rhursday pre match without ever taking a test. However, on the Saturday, I actually took the test as the result given is more current and relevant, albeit not registered)

 

That said, the old dears I see in the supermarket wearing.masks aren't doing it for my protection. They think (wrongly) they are protecting themselves from the likes of non mask wearers like me. Point being, even many mask wearers are doing it out of selfishness and not any kind of moral duty.  We are all to an extent selfish.

.. not sure if you understand the concept "each one protect one"!!!

  The old dears may not be using a mask which prevents the aerosol part of any saliva getting through their mask but them trying to minimise the risk, would mean one less person circulating the virus.

  Nothing selfish in what they are doing, if people throughout this pandemic had adhered to government instructions in regards to distance and hand sanitation you would not have had the figures we ended up with.

  Too many people picking up hand baskets without cleaning them, picking things up and putting them back with unsanitised hands, and see no problem with this.

  It is not about just you....!!!

[jammie82uk]

4 hours ago, Ashley said:

 

 

 

I'd like to see where it says that in T&C on our Season Tickets? 

It doesn’t have to be in the T&C to be an requirement 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Has this been announced by any team in the league yet? 

[Ashley]

54 minutes ago, jammie82uk said:

It doesn’t have to be in the T&C to be an requirement 

It doesn't? 

 

How come Uefa changed theirs for Euro2020 then and we had to agree to it before a certain date to get our tickets?