Our minority of dickhead away fans- a perspective

[lifted*fox]

1 minute ago, hejammy said:

 Just no need! I'd love to say it was all those "youngsters" but that particular group has a few 50+ too. I guess there's imbeciles across many different age groups. 

 

its defo all age groups. youngsters get a bad rep but the older guys are just as bad, if not worse. 

 

have a good day, get messy but mind your manners. it ain't hard is it. 

[peach0000]

1 minute ago, hejammy said:

I'm not sure you get it? No one has an issue with fans chanting or singing? It's the drunken/drugged up yobs who intimidate fellow fans is the issue. I had a group of them at the charity shield. Abusing a fellow Leicester fan for the way she looked. Just no need! I'd love to say it was all those "youngsters" but that particular group has a few 50+ too. I guess there's imbeciles across many different age groups. 

Yeah, the only issue I have with the first post is the age thing. It's definitely fans of all ages who do it. The rest is pretty spot on. 

[Le Renard]

Never understood the need to get tanked up before and during a match, I have a weak bladder and end up going to the loo every 10 mins, I seem to p**s 2 pints when I've drunk only one.

Edited 24 August 2021 by Le Renard

[TiffToff88]

46 minutes ago, Father Ted said:

Don’t bother going to away games then if you aren’t going to sing and get rowdy. 👍 Watch it on the tele next time. “Fans” who sit and don’t sing at aways shouldn’t be there. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've always thought that the point of going to a football match was to watch a football match. Not to get so drunk or off your face on drugs that you barely even notice there's a game on ad just want to "get rowdy" and cause trouble...

[Stadt]

Football hasn't been completely sanitised yet so you're going to get people that are drunk and lairy, naturally. 

 

It was the first proper away game in 18 months, at a shit ground and a shit kick off time meaning you'd most likely have to take the day off work. So some of our end being pissed up is no surprise really. 

 

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

NO FLARES NO ENTRY ULTRA OI OI GET YOUR BURBERRY STONE ISLAND OUT. 

[adam]

11 minutes ago, Father Ted said:

Honestly sums foxestalk up this. All cry and moan about our “atmosphere” yet moan about those that want to sing and are a bit rowdy at away games. It’s you that aren’t welcome. Stay at home and watch on the tele. Imagine going to games on Ausden Clark in your brand new replica shirt, drinking coffee and telling young passionate lads to sit down and not chant so loud. Disgrace to the club. 

You've got to be on a wind up.  

[RoboFox]

The thing is most of the 'old school' come out for the bigs games all stone island up yet when it comes to it shut themselves,I was a prominent member of the ybs when we started it up,was always us young lot Avin a row,we were game as ****,hear the young lot now are(I'm 30) and av mrs and kids and don't bother anymore,pisses me off that you get the so called old school sitting in family stand with the kids in the s.i gear,yet when push comes to shove and it's gonna kick off say 'av got me kids',that's well and fine but then don't wear the clobber to say your a lad if your a has been,most so called lads ain't even as a row,gaur enter that out of 50 lads(hate it when folk say there was 200 there today)only a dozen tops will av it,the rest **** off back to the tavern and av the cheek to say they've just 'had it'!

 

Edited 24 August 2021 by RoboFox

[An Away Move]

12 minutes ago, lifted*fox said:

 

bro your attitude stinks 

 

nobody has a problem with people chanting or jumping up and down a bit. OP is talking about groups of young (and old) lads who are messy pushing and knocking into people and getting aggressive with them when they're asked to stop.

 

it ain't unreasonable. people need to get a bit better at taking their liquid and powder if they can't keep themselves upright for a football match. amateurs, lol. 

I had some young lad jump into my back when we scored at Spurs a few seasons ago in the FA Cup game. There was a boy directly in front of me who I really struggled to avoid hitting hurting myself in the process. I was on edge for the rest of the game because the lad just thought it was totally fine thing to do. 

I don't mind drunk or lairey. Just don't jump into me from behind because that is a bell-end move.

Edited 24 August 2021 by SydenhamFox

[goose2010]

9 minutes ago, lifted*fox said:

 

its defo all age groups. youngsters get a bad rep but the older guys are just as bad, if not worse. 

 

have a good day, get messy but mind your manners. it ain't hard is it. 

The young one want to be like the old ones and the old ones wish they were as old as the young ones. 

[hejammy]

3 minutes ago, RoboFox said:

The thing is most of the 'old school' come out for the bigs games all stone island up yet when it comes to it shut themselves,I was a prominent member of the ybs when we started it up,was always us young lot Avin a row,we were game as ****,hear the young lot now are(I'm 30) and av mrs and kids and don't bother anymore,pisses me off that you get the so called old school sitting in family stand with the kids in the s.i gear,yet when push comes to shove and it's gonna kick off say 'av got me kids',that's well and fine but then don't wear the clobber to say your a lad if your a has been,most so called lads ain't even as a row,gaur enter that out of 50 lads(hate it when folk say there was 200 there today)only a dozen tops will av it,the rest **** off back to the tavern and av the cheek to say they've just 'had it'!

Sounds like your still drunk/drugged up from 2005 mate? 

[StriderHiryu]

I think I know of one of the incidents mentioned by the OP.

 

The West Ham fans were giving it large, as were the Leicester fans throughout most of the first half. Just after the Ayoze sending off, one West ham fan took upon himself to really give it to the Leicester fans and it was this that backfired spectacularly. Hundreds of Leicester fans rallied together to sing "You fat b*stard", "who ate all the pies" and "who's that crying over there." This continued for a good 5-10 minutes and was directed solely at one individual. 

 

Technically yes it was bullying someone for their size and appearance, but that fan brought it completely on themselves and even some of the West Ham fans were laughing at him as a result. As they say if you're going to give it, you've got to be prepared to take it! Given we were one down and had a man sent off, it provided some much needed relief for our fans, many of which had been stuck in traffic on the coaches for over 5 hours! Most of the people getting involved with it around me were doing it in humour rather than in anger. It felt more like a Mitchell and Webb sketch from a TV show than abuse.

 

That sort of chanting IMO is totally fair game, especially if the initial trouble is started by someone else. I can see why it's not everyone's cup of tea, but sometimes if it's in good faith, banter is good at any game. Brentford singing "Your'e just a sh*t Tottenham Hotspur" to Arsenal on opening night was top tier stadium banter if you ask me. If I was an Arsenal fan, I'd actually find that funny.

 

The lads that just try to start fights all game long and are drugged / drunk out of their minds are different. Those guys ruin every football match for all supporters in every stadium across the country. Those are they types that give Football a bad reputation, but are indicative of bigger problems within society itself. 

[nwl fox]

1 hour ago, Father Ted said:

Don’t bother going to away games then if you aren’t going to sing and get rowdy. 👍 Watch it on the tele next time. “Fans” who sit and don’t sing at aways shouldn’t be there. 

Oh stfu, it's not for you to dictate. Grow up

[An Away Move]

1 minute ago, StriderHiryu said:

I think I know of one of the incidents mentioned by the OP.

 

The West Ham fans were giving it large, as were the Leicester fans throughout most of the first half. Just after the Ayoze sending off, one West ham fan took upon himself to really give it to the Leicester fans and it was this that backfired spectacularly. Hundreds of Leicester fans rallied together to sing "You fat b*stard", "who ate all the pies" and "who's that crying over there." This continued for a good 5-10 minutes and was directed solely at one individual. 

 

Technically yes it was bullying someone for their size and appearance, but that fan brought it completely on themselves and even some of the West Ham fans were laughing at him as a result. As they say if you're going to give it, you've got to be prepared to take it! Given we were one down and had a man sent off, it provided some much needed relief for our fans, many of which had been stuck in traffic on the coaches for over 5 hours! Most of the people getting involved with it around me were doing it in humour rather than in anger. It felt more like a Mitchell and Webb sketch from a TV show than abuse.

 

That sort of chanting IMO is totally fair game, especially if the initial trouble is started by someone else. I can see why it's not everyone's cup of tea, but sometimes if it's in good faith, banter is good at any game. Brentford singing "Your'e just a sh*t Tottenham Hotspur" to Arsenal on opening night was top tier stadium banter if you ask me. If I was an Arsenal fan, I'd actually find that funny.

 

The lads that just try to start fights all game long and are drugged / drunk out of their minds are different. Those guys ruin every football match for all supporters in every stadium across the country. Those are they types that give Football a bad reputation, but are indicative of bigger problems within society itself. 

My favourite 'fat bastard' chant was away at Palace several seasons ago. A fat lad in the Palace end was giving it. Unfortunately for him he had a perfect set of empty seats all around him in a ring. You fat bastard quickly morphed into 'have you eaten all your mates?', which made me marvel at the clever genius of spontaneous group chanting.

[RoboFox]

7 minutes ago, hejammy said:

Sounds like your still drunk/drugged up from 2005 mate? 

Whilst that's true, and I love a bit of "Stone Island clobber", I can't take credit for that post originally I'm sorry to say.

[yorkie1999]

13 minutes ago, RoboFox said:

The thing is most of the 'old school' come out for the bigs games all stone island up yet when it comes to it shut themselves,I was a prominent member of the ybs when we started it up,was always us young lot Avin a row,we were game as ****,hear the young lot now are(I'm 30) and av mrs and kids and don't bother anymore,pisses me off that you get the so called old school sitting in family stand with the kids in the s.i gear,yet when push comes to shove and it's gonna kick off say 'av got me kids',that's well and fine but then don't wear the clobber to say your a lad if your a has been,most so called lads ain't even as a row,gaur enter that out of 50 lads(hate it when folk say there was 200 there today)only a dozen tops will av it,the rest **** off back to the tavern and av the cheek to say they've just 'had it'!

Bovver is spelt double v, not th.

[Sharpe's Fox]

According to this thread our match going supporters are either Stone Island laden yobos off their head on Charlie or thermos-clutching pensioners in dufflecoats.

[FoxesWalk]

17 minutes ago, RoboFox said:

The thing is most of the 'old school' come out for the bigs games all stone island up yet when it comes to it shut themselves,I was a prominent member of the ybs when we started it up,was always us young lot Avin a row,we were game as ****,hear the young lot now are(I'm 30) and av mrs and kids and don't bother anymore,pisses me off that you get the so called old school sitting in family stand with the kids in the s.i gear,yet when push comes to shove and it's gonna kick off say 'av got me kids',that's well and fine but then don't wear the clobber to say your a lad if your a has been,most so called lads ain't even as a row,gaur enter that out of 50 lads(hate it when folk say there was 200 there today)only a dozen tops will av it,the rest **** off back to the tavern and av the cheek to say they've just 'had it'!

Can anyone translate? 

[RoboFox]

Feels like the mods are watching this thread very closely. 

[Gav_LCFC14]

11 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

I think I know of one of the incidents mentioned by the OP.

 

The West Ham fans were giving it large, as were the Leicester fans throughout most of the first half. Just after the Ayoze sending off, one West ham fan took upon himself to really give it to the Leicester fans and it was this that backfired spectacularly. Hundreds of Leicester fans rallied together to sing "You fat b*stard", "who ate all the pies" and "who's that crying over there." This continued for a good 5-10 minutes and was directed solely at one individual. 

 

Technically yes it was bullying someone for their size and appearance, but that fan brought it completely on themselves and even some of the West Ham fans were laughing at him as a result. As they say if you're going to give it, you've got to be prepared to take it! Given we were one down and had a man sent off, it provided some much needed relief for our fans, many of which had been stuck in traffic on the coaches for over 5 hours! Most of the people getting involved with it around me were doing it in humour rather than in anger. It felt more like a Mitchell and Webb sketch from a TV show than abuse.

 

That sort of chanting IMO is totally fair game, especially if the initial trouble is started by someone else. I can see why it's not everyone's cup of tea, but sometimes if it's in good faith, banter is good at any game. Brentford singing "Your'e just a sh*t Tottenham Hotspur" to Arsenal on opening night was top tier stadium banter if you ask me. If I was an Arsenal fan, I'd actually find that funny.

 

The lads that just try to start fights all game long and are drugged / drunk out of their minds are different. Those guys ruin every football match for all supporters in every stadium across the country. Those are they types that give Football a bad reputation, but are indicative of bigger problems within society itself. 

"Get you tits out for the lads" to that fella, was good banter tbf

[SamL]

Pretty ironic actually that posts in this thread suggest people shouldn’t be dictated to whether they sing or not; yet plenty, including the OP, are trying to dictate how much people should have to drink. 

[Stadt]

Just now, Sharpe's Fox said:

According to this thread our match going supporters are either Stone Island laden yobos off their head on Charlie or thermos-clutching pensioners in dufflecoats.

The bigger problem is the 75% that are in-between that have very little interest in actively backing the team. Not everybody has to sing themselves hoarse obviously but our ends just seem really disinterested in making an atmosphere most of the time. 

[FoxesDeb]

23 minutes ago, RoboFox said:

The thing is most of the 'old school' come out for the bigs games all stone island up yet when it comes to it shut themselves,I was a prominent member of the ybs when we started it up,was always us young lot Avin a row,we were game as ****,hear the young lot now are(I'm 30) and av mrs and kids and don't bother anymore,pisses me off that you get the so called old school sitting in family stand with the kids in the s.i gear,yet when push comes to shove and it's gonna kick off say 'av got me kids',that's well and fine but then don't wear the clobber to say your a lad if your a has been,most so called lads ain't even as a row,gaur enter that out of 50 lads(hate it when folk say there was 200 there today)only a dozen tops will av it,the rest **** off back to the tavern and av the cheek to say they've just 'had it'!

FT classic, doesn't get posted as often as it should  I think the OP is still around, too

[hejammy]

7 minutes ago, SamL said:

Pretty ironic actually that posts in this thread suggest people shouldn’t be dictated to whether they sing or not; yet plenty, including the OP, are trying to dictate how much people should have to drink. 

That's not ironic, it's just common courtesy. Just like some telling someone not to be a dick in the cinema and start shouting and ruining the moving, by all means laugh when there's a funny moment but don't be a dick. This goes for most situations in life, if you go to a club for example by all means have a good time, just don't be so drunk that  you start fighting with other people, fall onto anything and everything and think every girl wants "a piece of you" so you start abusing those that don't take kindly to your advances. Moral of the story, don't be a dick (or should we give people the option to be one?)

Edited 24 August 2021 by hejammy

[lifted*fox]

7 minutes ago, RoboFox said:

Feels like the mods are watching this thread very closely. 

 

scenes when father ted gets left unchecked and you get a ban