Who do you want Jan 2022?

[sacreblueits442]

27 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

Not sure,  that might be him. I think he's playing in Germany. I haven't seen him play myself so I can't tell you if he's any good. Though he has a promising reputation. As for experience, neither did Fofana and he was doing very well.

Vestagaard has lots of experience and he's rubbish .

So you take your chances I suppose.

....what do you think now...!!!!

 

[Clever Fox]

54 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....what do you think now...!!!!

 

I think he looks very useful, A Two footed CB with Height Strength and Pace is exactly what we want. He can also pass the Ball to his own players.

He can also play either side Left or Right, another bonus. He'd be a real asset and I couldn't see how we could lose money on him.

 

I'd be delighted if we signed him. But I also suspect we might go for Tarkowski.

[sacreblueits442]

11 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

I think he looks very useful, A Two footed CB with Height Strength and Pace is exactly what we want. He can also pass the Ball to his own players.

He can also play either side Left or Right, another bonus. He'd be a real asset and I couldn't see how we could lose money on him.

 

I'd be delighted if we signed him. But I also suspect we might go for Tarkowski.

....the more interesting thing is, would we offload Vestergaard at the end of the season!!!

Bringing Tarkowski in on a free and Richards in as well who can play all across the backline would be an inexpensive buy and asset to the team. If we can get £10m for Vestergaard with Richards valued at £6.75m on transfer market (their valuation is never right) and with our history, we need the extra man, even if JJ comes back.

[Clever Fox]

I'd let Vestagaard go if we could get half what we paid for him. Look at the Wages we'd be saving.

Then if we could get Richards for  10 to 20 mil. That would be great business. He's young and only going to get better playing at a higher level.

As you say, He can also play anywhere in the Back line. I'd buy him even as a purely business decision as he hs real potential. 

But I could see him forging a great partnership with Fofana going forward. 

[Duquesne Whistle]

5 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

I'd let Vestagaard go if we could get half what we paid for him.

You're looking for the 'universally agreed with opinions' thread.

 

Unless there's quite an upturn in performances, we'd be fortunate to bag a tenth of what we paid for him, at this point in time.

Edited 2 November 2021 by Duquesne Whistle

[Duquesne Whistle]

2 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....what do you think now...!!!!

 

Strange political affiliation for an American...

[Clever Fox]

3 minutes ago, Duquesne Whistle said:

You're looking for the 'universally agreed with opinions' thread.

 

Unless there's quite an upturn in performances, we'd be fortunate to bag a tenth of what we paid for him, at this point in time.

Totally agree, But we just have to take the hit and move on. If he were younger I'd say there's a chance he might improve. But at his age he's only going to get slower and offer less.

Therefore he's taking up  a squad space with little chance of playing and costing us his Salary every week. The sooner we get rid the better.

Richards would be a real asset to the team and double or treble his value pretty quickly. Either way it's a win win for the Club.

[Deeg67]

19 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

But I could see him forging a great partnership with Fofana going forward. 

Where at, Chelsea or Man City? 

Edited 2 November 2021 by Deeg67

[Duquesne Whistle]

3 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

Totally agree, But we just have to take the hit and move on. If he were younger I'd say there's a chance he might improve. But at his age he's only going to get slower and offer less.

Therefore he's taking up  a squad space with little chance of playing and costing us his Salary every week. The sooner we get rid the better.

Richards would be a real asset to the team and double or treble his value pretty quickly. Either way it's a win win for the Club.

I agree 100%.

After his first few games, I was inclined to defend Big Jan. It has been difficult for him to come in at a time when we already had injuries and it often takes time to settle in, but his deficiencies have been all too evident most times he's been on the pitch, be that starting, or as a sub. Maybe our set up or pairings just don't suit him. I'm not an avid watcher of Southampton, but surely we'd have all noticed if he consistently played this badly for them. 

It's unfortunate, but I'm now inclined to agree that, even as a squad member/back up, we could do better.

[FoxOnWheels]

Doubt we sign anyone spent shit loads for us in the summer

[Genesis1]

34 minutes ago, Duquesne Whistle said:

You're looking for the 'universally agreed with opinions' thread.

 

Unless there's quite an upturn in performances, we'd be fortunate to bag a tenth of what we paid for him, at this point in time.

Somebody tried to justify his signing recently by saying he didn't play the full 90 minutes of the 9-0 drumming or some rubbish like that. With the way Amarty has been playing I'd give Vestaegard away for a snickers. At least that won't make me shit my pants while watching Leicester try to defend.

[Dahnsouff]

8 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

......Vestergaard's experience not helping him at the moment!!!

We wanted experience so we ignored potential talent, it seemed a good plan at the time, Vestergaard's shortcomings has brought this to a head.

  Chris Richards looks like a find, we will not be looking in his direction, although I believe we should.

Perhaps, but we have seen the value in experience. Vestergaard is extremely underwhelming so far, but it was the right direction in my opinion. We have seen how flaky Cags can be without experience beside him, so talent is rarely enough on its own.

[deep blue]

9 hours ago, Clever Fox said:

I think he looks very useful, A Two footed CB with Height Strength and Pace is exactly what we want. He can also pass the Ball to his own players.

He can also play either side Left or Right, another bonus. He'd be a real asset and I couldn't see how we could lose money on him.

 

I'd be delighted if we signed him. But I also suspect we might go for Tarkowski.

Only a highlights reel, of course, but Richards looks a bit Fofana-ish to me, and his long passing ability would be a boon to our forwards.

[Steve Earle]

Fofana Justin Barnes Maddison & Vestergaard fit and on form.

[North Leeds Fox]

Nico Schlotterbeck would be a good addition. Young, left footed cb and performing very well in a good freiberg team. Also in the last Germany squad. 

[HoustonFox]

14 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....far too late now....I will be expecting Tarkowski to come in next season!!!

He’ll go to Newcastle. They’ll pay stupid money in Jan 

[sacreblueits442]

5 minutes ago, HoustonFox said:

He’ll go to Newcastle. They’ll pay stupid money in Jan 

...if that was the case, within a season he would be relegated to 3rd or 4th choice!!!

  He may have a fatter wallet but not so much job satisfaction. 

[Jazzy_Jeff]

In an ideal world we’d get Tarkowski on a free in the summer and flog vestergaard somewhere. Don’t think anyone in the EPL would take him so would be hoping for a European club to take a punt.

 

With regards to January barring any injuries the only position I think needs strengthening is right wing. Lookman has done well but if a special player becomes attainable in January we should be all over it 

[Clever Fox]

14 hours ago, Deeg67 said:

Where at, Chelsea or Man City? 

Either way we'd be winners if we signed Richards. Someone is going to benefit. Why shouldn't it be us.

 

I have a feeling we'll pass and wait for Tarkowski, Which I think will be another mistake. Still we'll wait and see.

[Dahnsouff]

In contrast to some, I think signing another younger CB next Summer would be a huge mistake. If Jannick does not improve, and Jonny continues to have injury woes, even more so.

 

Richards is very much a Leicester signing, and he looks decent, but we are desperately short of nous, especially at the back.

[messerschmitt]

1 hour ago, Jazzy_Jeff said:

In an ideal world we’d get Tarkowski on a free in the summer and flog vestergaard somewhere. Don’t think anyone in the EPL would take him so would be hoping for a European club to take a punt.

 

With regards to January barring any injuries the only position I think needs strengthening is right wing. Lookman has done well but if a special player becomes attainable in January we should be all over it 

I don't think we will look for any wingers tbh. I don't think wingers fit with Brendan's way of playing. He likes wingers who can defend which is probably why Under didn't work out here. Traditional wingers seem to be a thing of the past as crossing the ball from the byline leads to a lot of lost possession. Wide forwards are more versatile, look at Liverpool and England. I think any wide player now is more likely to be a  proper wing back and not just a full back asked to play wing back. A modern wing back is more of a winger who can defend rather than a full back who can attack.

I think this is one of the main problems we have when playing with 3 CB's our full backs are full backs and not wing backs. Barnes would make a great wing back if he could be taught to defend. I think that's why we were looking at Gosens. A proper wing back can also move to play on the wing easier than a winger can play wing back.

[Fox in the North]

Get. Him. In.

 

 

[MPH]

2 hours ago, Jazzy_Jeff said:

In an ideal world we’d get Tarkowski on a free in the summer and flog vestergaard somewhere. Don’t think anyone in the EPL would take him so would be hoping for a European club to take a punt.

 

With regards to January barring any injuries the only position I think needs strengthening is right wing. Lookman has done well but if a special player becomes attainable in January we should be all over it 

I’d take a straight swap in January.

[sacreblueits442]

1 hour ago, messerschmitt said:

I don't think we will look for any wingers tbh. I don't think wingers fit with Brendan's way of playing. He likes wingers who can defend which is probably why Under didn't work out here. Traditional wingers seem to be a thing of the past as crossing the ball from the byline leads to a lot of lost possession. Wide forwards are more versatile, look at Liverpool and England. I think any wide player now is more likely to be a  proper wing back and not just a full back asked to play wing back. A modern wing back is more of a winger who can defend rather than a full back who can attack.

I think this is one of the main problems we have when playing with 3 CB's our full backs are full backs and not wing backs. Barnes would make a great wing back if he could be taught to defend. I think that's why we were looking at Gosens. A proper wing back can also move to play on the wing easier than a winger can play wing back.

...I  get the feeling that Rodgers wants to play with a back three!!!

 Very much needs proper Wingbacks as our present options are more proficient in a back four.

  With a Tarkowski in the backline and the other CBs with pace, it will allow us to press high and give support upfront and retrieve balls lost in open play more quickly.

  We get this setup in place and the defence does not come under so much pressure, as we are effectively defending from the front.

[majaco]

Can we sign a specialist set piece coach?