Rodgers In/Out

[kristianity77]

Out.  And have been out for ages.  The guy is capable (as shown) of humongous slumps that he can't get out of.  This is another, like the two absolute collapses towards the end of the previous two seasons.  There is no reset button this season though for another 15 games or so.  Who knows where we will be by then.

 

Yes he's won us an fa cup which is amazing, and yes we've had 2 great league finishes.  But in each of those seasons there were implosions like we've never seen before.  He turned us in to bottlers when it counts.  And now we bottle it on a regular basis even when the heat isn't on.

 

I've just never thought he's as good as people thinks he is.  We've lost everything we've built up in the past 10 years under him.

 

I don't believe we are going down this year, we will surely get 3 or 4 wins to see to that.  But if he's here to start a new season, I will panic about going down for the first time in years.

[The_77]

21 minutes ago, bennytwohats said:

Given where we were when he took over, and the success he has brought, he still has a little bit of credit in the bank for me, so in, but only just.

 

To be honest I can totally understand why people would feel differently and want him gone at this point, but the speed with which some people jumped on him, and the venom in some of the views here really is quite jarring for me (just to be crystal clear, I'm not suggesting this is everyone who wants him gone). I can handle a season of relative mediocracy after the glory years we are coming off the back off - yes I understand we've fallen short of expectations, but from what I can see a large proportion of our fans are acting like spoilt, entitled children. I find it baffling that there are people willing us to lose so we can offload him quicker, rather than willing us to turn a corner and get back on track with him - it's a funny interpretation of supporting your club imo. Between that and the increasingly embarrassing actions of some thugs masquerading as Leicester fans I'm beginning to feel quite turned off the football right now - for me that's more jarring than what we are seeing on the pitch.

We were in, like, 9th place when he took over.

[The_77]

If the top brass at the club aren’t mortified by yesterday, then we’re doomed.
 

But the renovated stadium will look slick and the luxury boxes will be especially nice. 

[Dahnsouff]

5 minutes ago, The_77 said:

We were in, like, 9th place when he took over.

We were also, like, without an FA Cup when he took over too.

[Sly]

I’ll admit that I’m torn. 
 

I just don’t have confidence that he can build a team from scratch. Some of the terrible players we’ve purchased and our record in Europe is nothing short of awful.

 

Collapses in two seasons in a row, when we should have sealed the deal always irks me. 
 

We go from beating Liverpool, to getting drummed by Forest, in what is quite frankly one of the most disgraceful performances since we lost 5-0 to Bolton on the opening day of the season years ago. 
 

Yet, part of me feels he’s a good coach and maybe it is the players not being able to adapt to the style; the plague of injuries and the good will he has in the bank. He’s given us 2 and a half great seasons but right now, I’m not sure he knows how to get us out of the slum and we’re in a similar position to and playing similar football to what Puel had us playing. 
 

I’m slightly leaning towards out. 

[Blue-fox]

I was Brendan out until yesterday. After thinking about it I am now more Brendan in than out. If some of the players have downed tools and going through the motions, then it doesn’t matter how good you are at motivating the players. They won’t be arsed. For this reason alone I am willing to give him the summer to see what’s what. 

[ultrafox]

People might do well to remember a similar crisis that happened on 30th March 1996 when we were totally humiliated by Sheffield Utd at Filbo. The vitriol and knives were out big time and most wanted the manager OUT.

 

Heated demonstrations outside Filbo after the game led to a small group of fans being invited in to the boardroom to air their grievances directly at the board.

 

After the dust had settled, Martin O'Neill ended up staying, but only just. 

 

And thank goodness he did.

 

Brendan IN.

 

 

[PAPA LAZAROU]

8 hours ago, turlo said:

I'm now out but don't think it will happen until the end of the season. I don't think its all this fault but ultimately he's the man in charge and time for a change. 

The worrying thing is both Rodgers and Congerton could be planning the big summer rebuild over the next few months and then be off in the summer. 

If the club are thinking of getting rid of Rogers I'm sure they would not listen to any such plans from either of them. plus where do you think we will get the money for the kind of overhaul? No where near enough money to replace at least half of this team that keeps letting us all down.

Edited 7 February 2022 by PAPA LAZAROU

[StanSP]

1 hour ago, kristianity77 said:

We've lost everything we've built up in the past 10 years under him.

Eh?

[Aus Fox]

1 hour ago, kristianity77 said:

Out.  And have been out for ages.  The guy is capable (as shown) of humongous slumps that he can't get out of.  This is another, like the two absolute collapses towards the end of the previous two seasons.  There is no reset button this season though for another 15 games or so.  Who knows where we will be by then.

 

Yes he's won us an fa cup which is amazing, and yes we've had 2 great league finishes.  But in each of those seasons there were implosions like we've never seen before.  He turned us in to bottlers when it counts.  And now we bottle it on a regular basis even when the heat isn't on.

 

I've just never thought he's as good as people thinks he is.  We've lost everything we've built up in the past 10 years under him.

 

I don't believe we are going down this year, we will surely get 3 or 4 wins to see to that.  But if he's here to start a new season, I will panic about going down for the first time in years.

How can that be even remotely true? I know some of the Brendan out brigade have some genuine concerns about where the club are heading, but amongst it the argument is lost with ridiculous statements like this.

How can the man who has guided us to our joint 4th best position in our history twice and won us the day cup be responsible for losing everything we’ve built up over the last 10 years?

Do you remember where we were when he took over?

He has been responsible for building us up to where we are.

I get people are disappointed and concerned about this season and the way it is going, but some of the idiotic comments I read on here are poorly thought out at best. This is possibly the weirdest of them all.

The man has his faults, but so will anyone who manages Leicester. 

[Aus Fox]

1 hour ago, The_77 said:

We were in, like, 9th place when he took over.

We had also never won the FA Cup, never played back to back seasons in Europe and only once finished in the top 5 of the Premier League.

[whoareyaaa]

Out for me bizzare team selections and subs no inclusion of key players Nacho Preat, bad signings Perez vested Bert , boring style of play, playing zonal marking while conceding week after week, 3 ATB the list goes on. He can't take us any further imo and we are regressing in every area

[Fox1980]

I love a poll 

 

it’s a definite yes from me 

[LestaAl]

How many more of these before we can have a poll of polls?

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

We cannot look at his previous clubs to see if he can do the refresh after the 3 year cycle - because he’s left jobs around that point.

 

I was out yesterday, but I’ve been reminded he has good will in the bank. At the moment I feel like I’m willing to give him pre season and the first 10 games - but I may flip flop again.

[Mr Weller]

In.

If he went we’d be looking for a manager with at least as good a track record who was available and willing to come and we’d still have the same players.

 

He has led us to fifth twice and an FA Cup win, which makes him possibly our most successful manager depending on how you  view Ranieri. It’s bad now but he’s earned the right to put it right.

[cruzFOX]

Christ I don’t know. Part of me is of course mad after the debacle against spuds and now forest but I’m scared as hell if we get it wrong by sacking Rogers and replacement makes an absolute balls of it sending us down. The other part of me says let him see out this season but how many more wacko results can we tolerate? We are becoming a bit of a joke now at how we continue these self inflicting wounds. Nobody can seem to stop it happening.

even pundits who for the most part genuinely like us and appreciate how good we are on our day are frustrated watching us. People outside us fans do care but for how long?

rogers: IN (for now)

[sacreblueits442]

2 hours ago, Arriba Los Zorros said:

I'm in by the slimmest of margins. Far as I'm concerned he needs to prove he's good enough now rather than relying on past achievements

 

On the positive side, he is a quality manager. When he came we were excited for a reason. His record is decent. He gets us winning the games we should and in the past he has taken us on impressive win streaks. The football can be very good. Even in a 'bad' season we're still mid table which is decent for a side like Leicester.

 

On the negative, he talks about a rebuild and fresh faces and there's no doubt it's required but I think he's part of the problem. He has become stale just as much as the players. I'd rather see a new face with fresh ideas take on the rebuild job. 2 seasons of choking has taken its toll. Yes we won the FA Cup but being brutally honest we deserved to lose that game and had some astonishing luck and a wonder goal.

 

If a decent alternative became available who wanted to come here I'd be all for it. Until then, he gets the chance to prove himself and only goes if we start to get too close to the bottom 3. And we make the call in summer. I think Top is on that line of thinking too.

....there are a lot of posters who use winning the F.A. Cup and Charity Shield as reasons we should not let him go!!!

It seems to be the only argument his supporters have to justify keeping him here. His statement regarding the mentality of the players not being right is exactly how we should be looking at our recent success, it is in the past, we start from scratch again. That is the mentality he is looking for, that is how I see it, what ever has gone before was great, but you need to look do it again.

[sylofox]

I've said for a long time his awful tactics and formations is no wonder the players dont look interested.

 

Now add some of his comments. His always blaming the players it's no wonder they have downed tools.

 

"We dont have a problem with set pieces"

He would not admit it. Then seemed to admit it but has no clue how to stop it.

 

It's not injuries either set piece defending is about how you set up. Not like we are being ripped open in open play.

 

Time to walk Brendan and take Congerton and your other idiots with you.

[ARM1968]

2 hours ago, ultrafox said:

People might do well to remember a similar crisis that happened on 30th March 1996 when we were totally humiliated by Sheffield Utd at Filbo. The vitriol and knives were out big time and most wanted the manager OUT.

 

Heated demonstrations outside Filbo after the game led to a small group of fans being invited in to the boardroom to air their grievances directly at the board.

 

After the dust had settled, Martin O'Neill ended up staying, but only just. 

 

And thank goodness he did.

 

Brendan IN.

 

 

Was that after 3 seasons in charge?  I forget. 

[Corky]

4 minutes ago, ARM1968 said:

Was that after 3 seasons in charge?  I forget. 

Did O'Neill also say that he was going to undertake an overhaul of the squad whilst publicly questioning their quality and their personalities?

 

It's an irrelevant comparison.

[jim5000]

He's 4-1 favourite to be the next Premier League manager out of his job.

 

I'm still on the side of in. We've been decimated by injuries this season, and with Fofana and Evans out or injured for most of it we've had to rely on our 3rd choice defender for every match of the season (and he's knackered) and Sophie's choice of Amarty or Vestergaard. On top of that, both first choice fullbacks have had long injuries, and we've often had to play players out of position just to get by.

 

I don't think you can under estimate the impact the Fofana injury had, it was like taking out the base of a house of cards. We blew our budget on am emergency transfer which was the only option we had, so we weren't able to reinforce in January. Rodgers has had very limited players to pick from and we've had to field academy players. KDH and Thomas getting starts is great for the future, but we've been forced into it rather than it being by choice.

 

I think Rodgers should have enough in the bank with two 5th place finishes and an FA Cup. We've been spoilt as fans over the past 10 years, always having something exciting to play for. This is the first midtable season we've experienced in a long time (Puel excepted), but we're still 10th. we've had some european matches, and we won the charity shield in September.

 

I think we have to give Rodgers the beneft of the doubt, his hands have been tied behind his back this season and he simply hasn't been able to make changes. We need to get rid of those who don't want to be here next season, trust the recruitement team, and if we are still not performing in the first few months of next season, Rodgers goes in December.

[lifted*fox]

dont know if im in or out tbh but im tired of watching this tepid shite every week.

 

im a realist, i get it, you can't win every game, injuries are shit, covid has been shit, players out of position, etc. 

 

BUT this lot look like like they've never kicked a football in their life. if it's because we're bare-bones and can't play the system rodgers wants to play then he should suck it up and revert to a system the players we have got  at our disposal understand and feel confident playing.

 

we look utterly dog shit, we roll over and have our belly ticked on the ****ing regular and it's not acceptable. 

 

we shit the bed more often than a 90 year old with bowel problems and don't remotely look like we have the fight in us to stop the second and third goals going in after the first. 

 

bringing in bertrand and vestegaard is an utterly terrifying decision based on how utterly dog shit they were for southampton, we must have sent someone in a blindfold to sound them out.

 

and if thats the best we could do to strengthen our weak position, well give me ****ing strength I wouldn't like to imagine what we're going to do this summer with rodgers and congerton in charge of the rebuild. 

 

without sounding like a basic idiot, i'd just like to see some FIGHT in our game instead of people standing about waving their arms at one another looking like they got out of bed 5 minutes before the game kicked off. we ship basic goals that are criminal and you really do have to wonder just what the **** we're doing in training week in, week out. all well and good having photos of the players standing about laughing with one another but there isn't much to laugh about, they should look like they've had a rocket up the arsehole. 

 

jesus. 

 

 

 

 

[sylofox]

3 minutes ago, jim5000 said:

He's 4-1 favourite to be the next Premier League manager out of his job.

 

I'm still on the side of in. We've been decimated by injuries this season, and with Fofana and Evans out or injured for most of it we've had to rely on our 3rd choice defender for every match of the season (and he's knackered) and Sophie's choice of Amarty or Vestergaard. On top of that, both first choice fullbacks have had long injuries, and we've often had to play players out of position just to get by.

 

I don't think you can under estimate the impact the Fofana injury had, it was like taking out the base of a house of cards. We blew our budget on am emergency transfer which was the only option we had, so we weren't able to reinforce in January. Rodgers has had very limited players to pick from and we've had to field academy players. KDH and Thomas getting starts is great for the future, but we've been forced into it rather than it being by choice.

 

I think Rodgers should have enough in the bank with two 5th place finishes and an FA Cup. We've been spoilt as fans over the past 10 years, always having something exciting to play for. This is the first midtable season we've experienced in a long time (Puel excepted), but we're still 10th. we've had some european matches, and we won the charity shield in September.

 

I think we have to give Rodgers the beneft of the doubt, his hands have been tied behind his back this season and he simply hasn't been able to make changes. We need to get rid of those who don't want to be here next season, trust the recruitement team, and if we are still not performing in the first few months of next season, Rodgers goes in December.

Dont blame it on injuries. What's cost us most is the ridiculous zonal marking.

Basic defending done under instruction of the manager. We are not being ripped open by quality play teams dont need to.

 

A corner has been as good as a penalty all season. We could all see it yet Brendan said it was no problem. His awful tactics weired formations and bizzar substitutions.

 

And now his insistence to blame the players for everything.

 

No wonder they dont want to play for him.

[Jaspa]

Forest result has crossed the line for me. Said a few weeks ago in another iteration of this thread I'd be happy evaluating at the end of the season if we could form some sort of cohesive play together, get players back fit, take the inevitable hits on the chin in the Premier League and see the season out but just don't humiliate ourselves, particularly in Notts.

 

Manager/Head Coach is responsible for mentality, this is Rodgers' squad now, for 3 seasons, his lads. You can't pin Saturday to injuries, it's solely application and effort. Interviews after the game again shirking responsibility. Hopefully it means the heat is on and a shot at the players to tie their shoes up and go for it - which'll soon end one way or another.

 

Barring a miraculous rally & a consistent show of togetherness on the field, sack him. Gauge the mentality early and if it's toxic before May, sack him. If we can limp over the line come the end of the season and he hasn't a good plan nor the players have faith in him, sack. Cut your losses Top, the manager will buy useless players and the same thing will happen next season, you pay him huge wage, the training ground is 5* ... I'm sure a few other managers love a round of golf.