Soumare

[Danno]

He’s looked well off the pace and that he can’t be arsed to chase after the ball. Just look at the winner spurs scored at home to us.

 

If you can’t be arsed then you don’t deserve a second season really. Plus the fact he often doesn’t make the bench would suggest he doesn’t try in training either. 
 

People go on about Vardy and that he got a second chance, at least Vardy looked like he was at least trying. 

[JimJams]

2 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....we have an obsession with Southampton and much like the unwanted connection with Sporting, where things never work out!!!

Just strange that we keep on taking things from that club, you would think that they should be a club to avoid.

Maybe we’re hoping that we get a Van Dijk and a Mané, instead of a van shite and Manky.

Edited 25 May 2022 by JimJams

[volpeazzurro]

2 hours ago, Viva said:

Soumare has looked as bad a player as I’ve seen here for quite a while. You can’t just always give players an extra year especially when money is tight.

If he goes onto great things, then good for him. I’d still happily cut our losses and let him go. 

I didn't see him as 'that' bad to be honest but, a young man, new country and culture, faster more physical football and asked to play an unfamiliar role to the one he excelled in for the French league champions, what could you reasonably expect to happen after a few disjointed appearances?

 

He was never bought as a ready-made, more a next season player according to Rodgers himself originally. 

 

Soumare, Under, Praet are other examples of players he's not chosen that have arguably not had a decent chance, also his treatment of Iheanacho has been woeful imo. Soumare in some ways has been set up to fail. However, let the manager himself pick a player like Perez and blow 30m and he'll move heaven and earth and keep playing him despite performances as if to justify himself! 

[Tielemans63]

He was highly rated in France wasn't he? I know these types of transfers are a lot less common than many think but I wonder is there any chance he could be a makeweight in a move for Aouar?

[JimJams]

I just said that in the Aouar thread.

[Viva]

6 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

I didn't see him as 'that' bad to be honest but, a young man, new country and culture, faster more physical football and asked to play an unfamiliar role to the one he excelled in for the French league champions, what could you reasonably expect to happen after a few disjointed appearances?

 

He was never bought as a ready-made, more a next season player according to Rodgers himself originally. 

 

Soumare, Under, Praet are other examples of players he's not chosen that have arguably not had a decent chance, also his treatment of Iheanacho has been woeful imo. Soumare in some ways has been set up to fail. However, let the manager himself pick a player like Perez and blow 30m and he'll move heaven and earth and keep playing him despite performances as if to justify himself! 

I think Soumare, Under and Praet all had chances to impress and never took them. You can’t keep giving Soumare playing time when he looks so off the pace. He does see players in training as well, which people on here don’t. 
 

It’s a bit childish to think that Rodgers picks his teams like you said. Iheanacho has been given plenty of opportunities this season and hasn’t managed to nail down a place without Vardy. 

[PAPA LAZAROU]

6 hours ago, GingerrrFox said:

Never really given a chance in his natural position. It would be a shame to see him leave as he is quite clearly talented. 

Sorry I have not seen any of that " quite clearly talent " He stunk the place out from the off. Miles to slow and an obvious attitude problem. We should be glad the club made a decision to get rid. 

[Osavo]

I can see why the decision regarding Soumare has been reached.

 

I'm not entirely sure what he adds in midfield. He was sold as a Yaya You're type, strong player to carry the ball through the midfield, however to me has looked very ponderous in possession and not a particularly brilliant runner with the ball. As others have also said, he's a defensive liability and lets people run off the back of him far too easily.

 

I may potentially have put some of this down to the transition and given him one more year, however with that strategy you risk his value halving again if he is just as poor. The management watch him day in, day out and I trust their judgement on this one.

[Grebfromgrebland]

We've broken a potentially good player here. 

[Guest]

31 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

I didn't see him as 'that' bad to be honest but, a young man, new country and culture, faster more physical football and asked to play an unfamiliar role to the one he excelled in for the French league champions, what could you reasonably expect to happen after a few disjointed appearances?

 

He was never bought as a ready-made, more a next season player according to Rodgers himself originally. 

 

Soumare, Under, Praet are other examples of players he's not chosen that have arguably not had a decent chance, also his treatment of Iheanacho has been woeful imo. Soumare in some ways has been set up to fail. However, let the manager himself pick a player like Perez and blow 30m and he'll move heaven and earth and keep playing him despite performances as if to justify himself! 

The same Perez who got less than half the minutes Soumare did in the league this season?

[sacreblueits442]

3 minutes ago, Guest said:

The same Perez who got less than half the minutes Soumare did in the league this season?

....quite clearly he was talking about Perez first seasons with us!!!

There was more than enough murmurings on here, regarding his place in the team. 

[Mash21]

13 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

We've broken a potentially good player here. 

Not broken just halted, think this could be another kramaric scenario where the player leaves Leicester and begins to thrive in a European league. Most likely French league for soumare if he is unsettled.

[Filberts lovechild]

Not good enough but maybe not enough time who knows. Another of Brendon’s waste of signings

[volpeazzurro]

30 minutes ago, Viva said:

I think Soumare, Under and Praet all had chances to impress and never took them. You can’t keep giving Soumare playing time when he looks so off the pace. He does see players in training as well, which people on here don’t. 
 

It’s a bit childish to think that Rodgers picks his teams like you said. Iheanacho has been given plenty of opportunities this season and hasn’t managed to nail down a place without Vardy. 

Yet again, in the case of Iheanacho, his appearances have been sporadic yet we know from experience last season, when given a run, he became our top scorer. Neither is it suitable to stick him up on his own.

 

Did Under actually get a full ninety minutes or two games in a row other than a few minutes cameo?

 

Praet was hardly given a regular birth either in the same role. Yet again, we suffered the hapless Perez on the right wing constantly where all but a blind man could see he was ineffectual. 

[volpeazzurro]

20 minutes ago, Guest said:

The same Perez who got less than half the minutes Soumare did in the league this season?

Perez has had 3 years to prove himself, hardly comparable. 

[Buzzell]

8 hours ago, Pliskin said:

Which does make me worry a little bit about this “restructure”… should we be chasing players like Eriksen, who will have high wage demands for a fairly short football lifespan, over a player with potential who needs a little TLC? 

Eriksen is Premier League proven and a top quality player that would improve us vastly. It’s unfortunate to hear about Soumare mind. I would of thought they would of have him another year to see if he adapts.

[Mike Oxlong]

Just hasn’t settled here and hasn’t adapted to the pace of football in the Premier League. Wouldn’t surprise me to see him do well back in France 

[Marshall Cockney Fox]

I wouldn't mind him blowing a bit hot & cold in his first season. But he kept getting caught the wrong side of the oppos midfield line. And would then saunter back like he didn't give a toss. Those two things are highly dubious deficits at this level. So either contracted football dementia when he crossed the channel or he seriously doesn't want to be a fox. If either are true, he can bugger off. 

[lgfualol]

Shame it hasnt worked out. Imo he looked quite good at the beginning, especially one of the Europa games where he was brilliant. Since then he's been like a different player, appears to have no confidence or motivation, or both. Hopefully if he goes we get our cash back and both sides are happy.

[CosbehFox]

I’d be amazed if he ever makes it in England. His inability to track runners beyond him made an increased liability. 

[Tommy G]

Better off for him back in France 

[Tanya]

2 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

We've broken a potentially good player here. 

He was terrible from the off. Maybe we shouldn't have recruited him in the first place but he should take a lot of responsibility.  He was unable to cope with the pace of the game and would let opposition midfielders score when they ran past him. And if we are not even contemplating a second season, then his attitude must stink too.

 

He can't play in England. It's better for all concerned if he's back in France.

[North Leeds Fox]

Real shame it hasn't worked out. Have to hope Galtier at Nice wants to work with him again and we can use that in a deal for somebody like Thuram. 

[VLC86]

2 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

We've broken a potentially good player here. 

Strange assumption that it’s us that have broken him rather than the player being at fault at all unless you know this?

 

Also pure speculation on my part but I would imagine a huge part of all of this is that he’s a young man in a foreign country not speaking the language and it’s been too much for him.

[VLC86]

7 minutes ago, Tanya said:

He was terrible from the off. Maybe we shouldn't have recruited him in the first place but he should take a lot of responsibility.  He was unable to cope with the pace of the game and would let opposition midfielders score when they ran past him. And if we are not even contemplating a second season, then his attitude must stink too.

 

He can't play in England. It's better for all concerned if he's back in France.

If his attitude stinks then this is also a fault of our recruitment. A huge part of our previous successes have been based on recruiting players with not only ability but the right mindset.