Levi Colwill

[Ric Flair]

8 minutes ago, Simoken said:

Unfortunately, itl only get worse for a club that runs the way we do financially. Lesser clubs are getting richer and alot more adventurous nowadays with spending. I feel LCFC will need to change its model eventually to remain competitive in this league. You can already see the difficulties starting to show. I hate how football has become.

I agree to an extent, we're now 8 years in as a PL club and are maxed out in wages which is largely where the issue lies. Couple that with us being the 1 standout chasingnclub who has actually pushed the big 6 and by doing so attempted to keep together a successful squad by rewarding them with bigger contracts then a cycle occurs. 

 

We want to improve the squad but as each season goes by we struggle to get rid of the fringe players we no longer want as we've given them bigger wages than any other league is willing to offer and other PL teams aren't overly interested (we seem to buy other PL teams shit though) and the more established we become as a PL team we seem to believe we need a different calibre of new player and attempt to take less risks in signings, going for more outlay in fee and wages in an attempt to not waste money.

 

However we've made many mistakes and when you've then got such players on big wages then it's extremely difficult to move them on, where as some young uncut diamonds command less and are easier to move on. The sorts of signings lesser established PL teams will gamble on and then we're dat querying how they move such players on after a year or two if they haven't worked out.

 

I don't know what the answer is, I admire our intentions to appear to becoming sustainable but at the same time we seem to have turned off the gravy train of the buy low and sell high model which in reality is the single most prosperous model for a club like us and we were the leading club in the PL in recent years at doing it. We somehow have to get back to engineering it.

[Dahnsouff]

4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I agree to an extent, we're now 8 years in as a PL club and are maxed out in wages which is largely where the issue lies. Couple that with us being the 1 standout chasingnclub who has actually pushed the big 6 and by doing so attempted to keep together a successful squad by rewarding them with bigger contracts then a cycle occurs. 

 

We want to improve the squad but as each season goes by we struggle to get rid of the fringe players we no longer want as we've given them bigger wages than any other league is willing to offer and other PL teams aren't overly interested (we seem to buy other PL teams shit though) and the more established we become as a PL team we seem to believe we need a different calibre of new player and attempt to take less risks in signings, going for more outlay in fee and wages in an attempt to not waste money.

 

However we've made many mistakes and when you've then got such players on big wages then it's extremely difficult to move them on, where as some young uncut diamonds command less and are easier to move on. The sorts of signings lesser established PL teams will gamble on and then we're dat querying how they move such players on after a year or two if they haven't worked out.

 

I don't know what the answer is, I admire our intentions to appear to becoming sustainable but at the same time we seem to have turned off the gravy train of the buy low and sell high model which in reality is the single most prosperous model for a club like us and we were the leading club in the PL in recent years at doing it. We somehow have to get back to engineering it.

Think thats a fair assessment, the only bit which I hope we can actually agree on and differs slighlty with your statement, is the bit in bold. As the even better approach is to stop buying the hot prospects, a game many now play, and develop them from even younger ages, an approach we would seem to be behind if only evidenced by Seagrave.

[Ric Flair]

3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Think thats a fair assessment, the only bit which I hope we can actually agree on and differs slighlty with your statement, is the bit in bold. As the even better approach is to stop buying the hot prospects, a game many now play, and develop them from even younger ages, an approach we would seem to be behind if only evidenced by Seagrave.

You need to do both, certainly in the short to medium term. There's very few teams out there that bring through the numbers of players to be able to reflect that but we need to be better at doing so. Whether that's purely from local academy players coming through here for many years or recruiting the best academy players we can across older age groups that we develop and bring through too, that's something we still aren't really doing as much as other clubs who are serious about academy development through to the 1st team.

[Pliskin]

I work with a chap who’s dad works for Chelsea in some capacity. He said the talk their end is were interested in him. Fingers crossed we are. I bet he could cost between £15-18m?

[moore_94]

10 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

I work with a chap who’s dad works for Chelsea in some capacity. He said the talk their end is were interested in him. Fingers crossed we are. I bet he could cost between £15-18m?

I imagine they would probably want at least / similar to what they got for Guehi which was £18m (which included a buy back and sell on clauses)

Edited 14 July 2022 by moore_94

[Dan]

14 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

This scares me, we won't get him will we. I'd rather live in denial by him not leaving and then never play either and we can all get very antagonised that they didn't let him go.

Can see him going to Palace can't you?

[NewquayFox]

Southampton interested now, we get Bednarek and they get Colwill for the same fee, it’s a Leicester thing… 

[AjcW]

3 minutes ago, NewquayFox said:

Southampton interested now, we get Bednarek and they get Colwill for the same fee, it’s a Leicester thing… 

Hey at least if he goes to Saints you know we'll buy him one day....

[AKCJ]

 

[Simoken]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

I agree to an extent, we're now 8 years in as a PL club and are maxed out in wages which is largely where the issue lies. Couple that with us being the 1 standout chasingnclub who has actually pushed the big 6 and by doing so attempted to keep together a successful squad by rewarding them with bigger contracts then a cycle occurs. 

 

We want to improve the squad but as each season goes by we struggle to get rid of the fringe players we no longer want as we've given them bigger wages than any other league is willing to offer and other PL teams aren't overly interested (we seem to buy other PL teams shit though) and the more established we become as a PL team we seem to believe we need a different calibre of new player and attempt to take less risks in signings, going for more outlay in fee and wages in an attempt to not waste money.

 

However we've made many mistakes and when you've then got such players on big wages then it's extremely difficult to move them on, where as some young uncut diamonds command less and are easier to move on. The sorts of signings lesser established PL teams will gamble on and then we're dat querying how they move such players on after a year or two if they haven't worked out.

 

I don't know what the answer is, I admire our intentions to appear to becoming sustainable but at the same time we seem to have turned off the gravy train of the buy low and sell high model which in reality is the single most prosperous model for a club like us and we were the leading club in the PL in recent years at doing it. We somehow have to get back to engineering it.

well said mate.

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

Exactly the sort of signing we should be making and enough of this waiting to offload shit players business. 

[indierich06]

He wouldn't take up a place in the squad, he probably wouldn't break the bank, he would likely be an asset with a high sell on value in the future. We absolutely must get this one done, regardless of who stays and who goes. 

[Foxes96]

Due to not requiring a squad place this is one we should be able to get done without needing  outgoings first. Get him in and can then look to shift any of Soy, Vester, and Amartey later on in the window. 

[HankMarvin]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11011561/Leicester-plot-transfer-swoop-Levi-Colwill-Chelsea-offload-19-year-old-summer.html

 

 

[sacreblueits442]

1 hour ago, Simoken said:

Unfortunately, itl only get worse for a club that runs the way we do financially. Lesser clubs are getting richer and alot more adventurous nowadays with spending. I feel LCFC will need to change its model eventually to remain competitive in this league. You can already see the difficulties starting to show. I hate how football has become.

...not sure why we should be looking to change our model!!!

  It works pretty well, it would be the people in the positions making the decisions that are not performing, as opposed to us moving from something that has served us well.

  We are investing in infrastructure, and that has had a big impact on our ability to spend. We also are generous in our renumeration,  hence the inability to move fringe players on, due to what they currently earn with us.

  The plan was self sustainability, I fully back the ideology behind it, and would not wish to put the club in a situation where we overspend and incur points deductions, trying to keep up with the joneses. 

  We all know where that leads to.

[Pliskin]

I mean, if you’re the Southampton head of recruitment to send him our way 😂

[roblcfc84]

We seem to do a lot of plotting…but not actually doing the offer bit. 

[surrifox]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

I agree to an extent, we're now 8 years in as a PL club and are maxed out in wages which is largely where the issue lies. Couple that with us being the 1 standout chasingnclub who has actually pushed the big 6 and by doing so attempted to keep together a successful squad by rewarding them with bigger contracts then a cycle occurs. 

 

We want to improve the squad but as each season goes by we struggle to get rid of the fringe players we no longer want as we've given them bigger wages than any other league is willing to offer and other PL teams aren't overly interested (we seem to buy other PL teams shit though) and the more established we become as a PL team we seem to believe we need a different calibre of new player and attempt to take less risks in signings, going for more outlay in fee and wages in an attempt to not waste money.

 

However we've made many mistakes and when you've then got such players on big wages then it's extremely difficult to move them on, where as some young uncut diamonds command less and are easier to move on. The sorts of signings lesser established PL teams will gamble on and then we're dat querying how they move such players on after a year or two if they haven't worked out.

 

I don't know what the answer is, I admire our intentions to appear to becoming sustainable but at the same time we seem to have turned off the gravy train of the buy low and sell high model which in reality is the single most prosperous model for a club like us and we were the leading club in the PL in recent years at doing it. We somehow have to get back to engineering it.

agreed. I do think that the club's vision may also include a production line of home grown young players that can be developed and either used by the club or sold on at a profit. This is the model that german clubs use to great effect and in general there is much less money in the German leagues than in the UK . We have the environment to do this with a world class training facility but whilst we appear to have a great crop of youngsters there is the sense that the whole process needs to be reviewed as there is no apparent strategy with what looks like a very haphazard approach to playing youngsters out out of position, up and down the different age groups and sent out on fruitless and unsatisfactory loans

[kingkisnorbo]

52 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

 

You would think we have more than enough pull to beat Fulham and Southampton to his signature.

 

This will be an absolute turkey if he doesn’t sign now. 
 

 

[AKCJ]

Just now, kingkisnorbo said:

You would think we have more than enough pull to beat Fulham and Southampton to his signature.

 

This will be an absolute turkey if he doesn’t sign now. 
 

 

The worry for him is that why would he go from Chelsea's bench to Leicester's.

 

He's need reassurance that he'd play here. I think for that to happen we'd need to go full time 3-4-3 and to be honest, I think it'd work. 

I quite like the idea of;

 

Schmeichel

Fofana Evans Colwill

Ricardo Ndidi KDH Justin

Maddison Vardy Barnes

 

 

[turlo]

16 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

I mean, if you’re the Southampton head of recruitment to send him our way 😂

He'll end up buying Colwell for Southampton, flogging us Bednarek and then joining us in a few months on mega wages.

[Richard]

We rarely ever get into a competition to sign players. He’s our #1 target and if there’s a whiff of interest I’ll imagine we’ll go for it, outgoings or not. 
 

The Leeds interest in de Ketelaere makes me think we’ve cooled on that

[turlo]

4 minutes ago, kingkisnorbo said:

You would think we have more than enough pull to beat Fulham and Southampton to his signature.

 

This will be an absolute turkey if he doesn’t sign now. 
 

 

unless him living down south and being born in Southampton is a big factor for him. 

[KFS]

3 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

The worry for him is that why would he go from Chelsea's bench to Leicester's.

 

He's need reassurance that he'd play here. I think for that to happen we'd need to go full time 3-4-3 and to be honest, I think it'd work. 

I quite like the idea of;

 

Schmeichel

Fofana Evans Colwill

Ricardo Ndidi KDH Justin

Maddison Vardy Barnes

 

 

That midfield two can’t pass 

[GlennyFox55]

5 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

The worry for him is that why would he go from Chelsea's bench to Leicester's.

 

He's need reassurance that he'd play here. I think for that to happen we'd need to go full time 3-4-3 and to be honest, I think it'd work. 

I quite like the idea of;

 

Schmeichel

Fofana Evans Colwill

Ricardo Ndidi KDH Justin

Maddison Vardy Barnes

 

 

I think coming in as 3rd choice with an aging Evans unlikely to play every single week and also likely to miss spells of the season through injury would give him a good assurance of game time, come next season he could well be a starter for us.