Noni Madueke

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, Sankey93 said:

Top 10 ? Come on mate think about it? I’d take all these over him. Some are obvious tbf.

Sterling 

grealish 

Diaz 

salah

jota

saka 

son 

foden 

zaha 

neto 

raphinha

bowen

Mahrez

martinelli

Ziyech

Loads of these don’t play in Barnes position and are not the definition of consistent either, lots of them are media darlings though. Barnes is frustrating, magical in equal measure, maybe he becomes more than he currently is, but even now he is not bad at all

[Unabomber]

3 minutes ago, Sankey93 said:

Top 10 ? Come on mate think about it? I’d take all these over him. Some are obvious tbf.

Sterling 

grealish 

Diaz 

salah

jota

saka 

son 

foden 

zaha 

neto 

raphinha

bowen

Mahrez

martinelli

Ziyech

I’m assuming Ric was going off stats

[Sankey93]

Just now, Dahnsouff said:

Loads of these don’t play in Barnes position and are not the definition of consistent either, lots of them are media darlings though. Barnes is frustrating, magical in equal measure, maybe he becomes more than he currently is, but even now he is not bad at all

Agree he’s not bad but he can be loads better imo. 

[desertfox2]

1 hour ago, Sankey93 said:

Harvey Barnes is bang average for me. He’s not very consistent either which annoys me cuz when he’s on it he’s brilliant! Hopefully this season we will see more of it.

He's 24 if he just sorts his finishing/end product out then he will be top class but I know what you mean. He regularly finds himself in the position to score and he's hit double figures the past 2 seasons. He could get 15-20 with his end product sorted. He has everything it's just the end product. That comes and loads of clubs will be after him.

[Dahnsouff]

Would still rather have Viktor than Madueke

[Arriba Los Zorros]

5 hours ago, Matt_Lcfc said:

Two goals and one assist in 28 PL games, not surprised one bit.

He was supposed to be another foreign wonderkid too wasn't he. (Trincao) remember people on here frothing at the bit Wolves got him and not us. 

 

Patson Daka is another good example. Overhyped, he could become a player in a few years but now he's very much a liability.

 

I just think these players get overhyped because of potential based on stats etc by people that only see highlights and not the players over a 90 min game. 

 

Madueke might do OK but we shouldn't expect wonders, Kante and Mahrez were really one offs and we don't seem to be that club ahead of the game any more. 

[Guest]

42 minutes ago, Arriba Los Zorros said:

Patson Daka is another good example. Overhyped, he could become a player in a few years but now he's very much a liability.

[Ric Flair]

1 hour ago, Sankey93 said:

Top 10 ? Come on mate think about it? I’d take all these over him. Some are obvious tbf.

Sterling 

grealish 

Diaz 

salah

jota

saka 

son 

foden 

zaha 

neto 

raphinha

bowen

Mahrez

martinelli

Ziyech

Barely half of them get as many goal contributions a season as Barnes, I stand by my statement. He's top 10.

[TJQuik]

7 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Barely half of them get as many goal contributions a season as Barnes, I stand by my statement. He's top 10.

Admittedly he's not the most creative player in our ranks, but there's too much pressure on Barnes to be a constant attacking threat at the moment because we have no one on the opposite flank who we can rely on to contribute. This season when he's been wank our usual option has been to sub him off for Lookman who has a very different style to him, but we're still tied to using a player in the same position as we have no right wing option. A creative, tricky right winger that can unlock teams that defend deep would give Harvey a lot more freedom and take some of the pressure off him.

[LFox99]

11 minutes ago, TJQuik said:

A creative, tricky right winger that can unlock teams that defend deep would give Harvey a lot more freedom and take some of the pressure off him.

There's this tall Belgian fella 

[Finnegan]

Imagin picking Grealish, Martinelli, Ziyech, Zaha or Neto ahead of Barnes. Jesus christ. 

[Grebfromgrebland]

2 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

He's got what you can't teach though which is a knack of scoring and assisting, he's in the top 10 wingers in the league in doing so and worth his weight in gold. 

Actually I've just checked.

 

Gold is currently £48.18 per gram.

 

He's 66kg so in gold that's £3,179,880.

 

He's worth more than his weight in gold.

 

Now if we're talking plutonium that's about £4,500 per gram so he'd be worth £297,000,000. That's a realistic value considering he's English and John Barnes son, may be rest in peace.

 

 

Edited 29 June 2022 by Grebfromgrebland

[sacreblueits442]

5 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

Actually I've just checked.

 

Gold is currently £48.18 per gram.

 

He's 66kg so in gold that's £3,179,880.

 

He's worth more than his weight in gold.

 

Now if we're talking plutonium that's about £4,500 per gram so he'd be worth £297,000,000. That's a realistic value considering he's English and John Barnes son, may be rest in peace.

 

 

....sounds like you have been spending too much time near the plutonium!!!

[Fosse93]

1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

Imagin picking Grealish, Martinelli, Ziyech, Zaha or Neto ahead of Barnes. Jesus christ. 

I agree the criticism was harsh however, you've surely got to take Martinelli over Barnes? Looks like he could be a generational talent.

 

The rest? Yeah, I hear you.

 

Barnes is a great player IMO, just for the record.

[Nicolo Barella]

11 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Leeds will have a lot of bunce and need a left footed RW to replace Madueke. We have to be in a position to move fast.

Would be brutal to miss out on Raphinha when we should have bought him, and then the guy they replace Raphinha with

[dannythefox]

3 hours ago, Sankey93 said:

Top 10 ? Come on mate think about it? I’d take all these over him. Some are obvious tbf.

Sterling 

grealish 

Diaz 

salah

jota

saka 

son 

foden 

zaha 

neto 

raphinha

bowen

Mahrez

martinelli

Ziyech

Half of these don’t even play where Barnes plays 😂😂

[Pliskin]

3 hours ago, Sankey93 said:

Top 10 ? Come on mate think about it? I’d take all these over him. Some are obvious tbf.

Sterling 

grealish 

Diaz 

salah

jota

saka 

son 

foden 

zaha 

neto 

raphinha

bowen

Mahrez

martinelli

Ziyech

Sterling is wank.

Grealish isn’t worth the money either.

Zaha shows up about once a month 

Martinelle has developed a reputation from doing not a lot

And Ziyech is a a bag of shit also. 

[Pliskin]

Barnes is a quality player. He wasn’t the issue last season we were. He is at his best playing in a side attacking with momentum. When we do, he can be unplayable. When we play at a snails pace he is completely ineffective.

[NaijaFox]

12 hours ago, StinckleyFox said:

Is it really the perfect signing, was he not out injured a lot last season?

Sounding even more "perfect" for us...

[Sankey93]

3 hours ago, dannythefox said:

Half of these don’t even play where Barnes plays 😂😂

Yeah and they would still do a better job imo. We will see this season won’t we! I hope I’m wrong.

[desertfox2]

The other thing with Barnes is that teams can kind of double up on him by pulling over a CB a bit as they know we have little to no chance of scoring from the other side. A quality RW could stretch teams out a bit and really help Barnes. 

[StinckleyFox]

7 hours ago, Finnegan said:

Imagin picking Grealish, Martinelli, Ziyech, Zaha or Neto ahead of Barnes. Jesus christ. 

Grealish is clear of barnes, had a bad season but grealish is an incredible player… and I hate the guy.

 

Neto aswell, he is a quality player I would love to have neto here.

[Kinowe Soorie]

I find the lack of faith in Barnes disturbing

[StinckleyFox]

2 minutes ago, Kinowe Soorie said:

I find the lack of faith in Barnes disturbing

He’s a quality player, could be one of the best on the league if he can get his finishing on par with his dribbling. It all comes with experience though, just needs to fine tune his decision making and composure in key moments and he will be an incredible player.

[Finnegan]

37 minutes ago, StinckleyFox said:

Grealish is clear of barnes, had a bad season but grealish is an incredible player… and I hate the guy.

 

Neto aswell, he is a quality player I would love to have neto here.

 

Neither of those two have anywhere near the productivity Barnes does, even when Barnes is off form. 

 

Ric is right, most people think Harv was in shit form last year and he still put up good numbers. And I'm not talking subjective stats, I'm talking cold, hard output. 

 

Grealish is the biggest fraud in modern football. "Most free kicks won" isn't a stat to aspire to, its the mark of a diver. Grealish is a brand that somehow got popular, regardless of any ability. His publicist somehow managed to turn him in to the new Gazza in the British tabloids and England fans predictably lapped it up regardless of the fact it has no reflection on the actual pitch. 

 

Neto and Martinelli may turn out to be brilliant footballers but they've got absolutely loads still to prove and neither of them are at Barnes' level yet. I get as frustrated as everyone else watching an off form Barnes run straight in to defenders and lose the ball but there's just absolutely no arguing with the consistency of his end product. 

 

There are very, very few players that have the goal contribution numbers he does since his Premier League debut and that's accounting for the fact he was considered to be in frustrating finishing form in his first six months and for large periods last year.