Rigga Posted 31 July 2022 Share Posted 31 July 2022 Colwill - Hudson Odoi and a few quid on top in a swap for fofana ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ClaphamFox Posted 31 July 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 31 July 2022 1 minute ago, Rigga said: Colwill - Hudson Odoi and a few quid on top in a swap for fofana ? No. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigga Posted 31 July 2022 Share Posted 31 July 2022 3 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: No. Very detailed reply 👍😂 we know if not this year, Fofana will be gone next.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 31 July 2022 Share Posted 31 July 2022 13 hours ago, MarriedaLeicesterGirl said: I'd take him on a loan with an option to buy, but if he was successful here, his wages would be an issue. ...wouldn't you think if we spoke to the player and informed him it was an option to buy, we would have discussed the potential ceiling for his wages!!! Surely we do not go through the season only to say, "...we want to give you a contract.." and then say, but we can't afford to offer you a £200k a week contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 31 July 2022 Share Posted 31 July 2022 31 minutes ago, Rigga said: Very detailed reply 👍😂 we know if not this year, Fofana will be gone next.. On the assumption he continues to play well ,almost identical things were being said about Soyuncu a while back. Consistency in modern footballers is not guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarriedaLeicesterGirl Posted 31 July 2022 Share Posted 31 July 2022 8 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...wouldn't you think if we spoke to the player and informed him it was an option to buy, we would have discussed the potential ceiling for his wages!!! Surely we do not go through the season only to say, "...we want to give you a contract.." and then say, but we can't afford to offer you a £200k a week contract. Yes, that would be the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Earle Posted 31 July 2022 Share Posted 31 July 2022 (edited) The wages 'issue' with CHO is the same as the wages issue for many of the players we're trying to move on. CHO would have to take a substantial reduction to join us permanently, and that can be 'moderated' or absorbed either by the selling club paying off some of their contract, or by the buying club paying a signing on fee. Take Vesty for example: if he's on £80k pw here (just as an example) and Fulham won't pay more than £60k pw and Vesty has two years left on his contract here, then he & his agent will be looking to make up all or a good part of 104 x (80-60) = £2,080,000. That's (happily) the difference for us between selling at £12m and selling at £10m. Or Fulham pay him say a £1.5m signing on fee plus the £60k pw, etc etc Edited 31 July 2022 by Steve Earle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarriedaLeicesterGirl Posted 31 July 2022 Share Posted 31 July 2022 1 minute ago, Steve Earle said: The wages 'issue' with CHO is the same as the wages issue for many of the players we're trying to move on. CHO would have to take a substantial reduction to join us permanently, and that can be 'moderated' or absorbed either by the selling club paying off some of their contract, or by the buying club paying a signing on fee. Take Vesty for example: if he's on £80k pw here (just as an example) and Fulham won't pay more than £60k pw and Vesty has two years left on his contract here, then he & his agent will be looking to make up all or a good part of 102 x (80-60) = £2,040,000. That's (happily) the difference for us between selling at £12m and selling at £10m. Or Fulham pay him a £1.5m signing on fee plus the £60k pw, etc I don't think Vesty is on 80k. Internet search says anywhere from 65 - 75, but no one says 80. My guess would be 70 or lower, but that would be a guess since no one really knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 31 July 2022 Share Posted 31 July 2022 3 minutes ago, MarriedaLeicesterGirl said: I don't think Vesty is on 80k. Internet search says anywhere from 65 - 75, but no one says 80. My guess would be 70 or lower, but that would be a guess since no one really knows. ..it was a for instance value that he used!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigga Posted 31 July 2022 Share Posted 31 July 2022 3 hours ago, An Sionnach said: On the assumption he continues to play well ,almost identical things were being said about Soyuncu a while back. Consistency in modern footballers is not guaranteed. If he starts to play crap then, we are in even more trouble than we think we are if we sell him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindaloo FOX Posted 31 July 2022 Share Posted 31 July 2022 He will leave Chelsea in this window Didn't we try to get him last summer also ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indierich06 Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 I would take Hudson-Odoi, there's obviously a player in there and it's easy to forget that he's only 21, feels like he's been around for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 I'd take him on ability but I dont think he solves our wages issue, probably need to get rid of 2 of the Vesty/Hamza types to even consider this. Didnt Chelsea offer a new improved contract once Bayern were sniffing a few years back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose2010 Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 Just now, Nalis said: I'd take him on ability but I dont think he solves our wages issue, probably need to get rid of 2 of the Vesty/Hamza types to even consider this. Didnt Chelsea offer a new improved contract once Bayern were sniffing a few years back? he is on 100+ a week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 Loan, we need a short term fix to the RW issue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indierich06 Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 29 minutes ago, goose2010 said: he is on 100+ a week. Yeah that is a huge issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 Loan with an option to buy would be perfect. Albrighton and Perez just done;t offer enough. CHO is quick, dribbles well and he creates a lot because he plays with his head up. Played 71 career 90s, scored 16 and set 20 up for 0.51 G+A p90 (0.44 xG+xA). Perez's career figures are 0.46 G+A p90 (0.38 xG+xA) Albrighton's career figures are 0.27 G+A p90 (0.23 xG+xA) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrifox Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 If he was any good he’d get more playing time at CFC . The likes of the this guy, Mount, etc wouldn’t be noticed if they were at Villa or Brighton which is about his level . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 (edited) It's moot because this would never happen, but if the club were to bring in CHO Brendo would never use him. He'd start out getting 20 minutes as a sub if we're losing, show up in a few Caribou Cup matches, then disappear off the far end of the reserves bench. Not a Rodgers player. Edited 1 August 2022 by Deeg67 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjcW Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 48 minutes ago, Stadt said: Loan with an option to buy would be perfect. Albrighton and Perez just done;t offer enough. CHO is quick, dribbles well and he creates a lot because he plays with his head up. Played 71 career 90s, scored 16 and set 20 up for 0.51 G+A p90 (0.44 xG+xA). Perez's career figures are 0.46 G+A p90 (0.38 xG+xA) Albrighton's career figures are 0.27 G+A p90 (0.23 xG+xA) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanlegend Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 Personally think he’s better than Lookman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 58 minutes ago, surrifox said: If he was any good he’d get more playing time at CFC . The likes of the this guy, Mount, etc wouldn’t be noticed if they were at Villa or Brighton which is about his level . Or Pulisic, Ziyech & Havertz (almost £200m collectively) are ahead of him in the pecking order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 Yeah, but apparently Chelsea are willing to let them go aswell so... ...(actually not Havertz). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 3 hours ago, Stadt said: Or Pulisic, Ziyech & Havertz (almost £200m collectively) are ahead of him in the pecking order? there’s also the fact that they play narrow forwards rather than out and out wingers. it’s a daft argument because if he was playing for them he wouldn’t be an option for us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnup Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 Pulisic could do well here. Wes and Maddison out, Colwill , Pulisic and Ziyech in... No...I'd doubt it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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