Lako42 Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 18 hours ago, SemperEadem said: We wont get toxic. Worst it will get is folk walking out. You wouldn't notice a difference seeing as most leave on about 80 minutes anyway 1
Alfie.meadsy Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 After watching us loose to Bournemouth I generally think we are screwed. If nothing changes we are going to be in the championship. I reckon if we get down to the championship we will struggle as well. 3
AjcW Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 I think the worrying thing for me now is we're still 2 wins off double figures and there's only 6 league games before the world cup!
Haywood_6 Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 Becoming more of a reality the longer Brendan stays unfortunately. I won't be suprised if we don't get out the bottom three all season now if he remains in charge
fuchsntf Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 (edited) Nothing to do really with the Manager.. With 6 games to play before W.cup I want to know if the players can lift their individual & team performances. Even in a so called shackled style of play... Everybody concentrates on defence frailities,but even when we are well in the game, we are only " just" converting the odd goal...often not even that 2nd goal...Against Bournemouth we could only muster the one goal..where we " Could of had 2 maybe 3. difference between losing or drawing at least.. Daka against forest was I believe the only goal, scored from the Bench this PL season... Maddison-Tielemans ain't working as our creative part of the midfield... I would say time for Tielemans to sit on the Bench for a couple of games... Praet the next player in line, maybe..KDH-Praet with Maddison can be more the bullish physical push we need, instead of finess being too delicate at the moment..Add an ever improving Soumare or even Mendy at the back of them,more holes might get filled,and with Barnes grabbing & creating the forward space ,to help Maddison & Daka... No matter what any coach/Rodgers wants implemented on the field it's the Players that cover,find,defend,attack,create spaces.Tackle the opposition,and follow their own skill-set basics to control the ball. Any odd individual who is shakey,should be able to be covered by his team-mates,many teams,usually carry a" doubtfull-selection" in their team.. Edited 10 October 2022 by fuchsntf 4
RonnieTodger Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 2 hours ago, Lako42 said: You wouldn't notice a difference seeing as most leave on about 80 minutes anyway Even if we’re 4-0 up against our biggest rivals 1
Dickov22 Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 1/4 of the season gone and we have 4 points. It’s absolutely outrageous. 1
ARM1968 Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 It’s a simple equation. If Brendan stays we go down. It’s that simple. His approach, tactics and philosophy are at odds with reality. He shows no capacity to change things because that would require a philosophical reset and he isn’t man enough, as already evidenced, to accept that. 1
splinterdream Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 1 hour ago, Alfie.meadsy said: After watching us loose to Bournemouth I generally think we are screwed. If nothing changes we are going to be in the championship. I reckon if we get down to the championship we will struggle as well. I think it depends whether any money available to spend. We have a lot out of contract but have some dead wood still in on obscene wages
Happy Fox Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 Jason Bourne @JasonBourne1986 “I am not thinking about it,” Rodgers said of relegation. “We are a very strong group and I believe that we will gradually take ourselves away from it.” This is what I meant about the need for honesty. The house is on fire. It’s fine to admit it. He also set a 40 point target.
fuchsntf Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 5 minutes ago, Dickov22 said: 1/4 of the season gone and we have 4 points. It’s absolutely outrageous. Disagree..it's not the 4pts or lack of, it's the de ja Vue performances,that aren't giving fans enough encouragement that we can grow ,build & develope from this situation. It really is too early to judge,analyse the bottom positions,as well as Newcastle, or present top 11-5 positions that they will have a super successfull season. In my 62+ years,not one single area or individual position was decided...before Xmas..Let's never forget various comfy or panic situations in the past..of Hull, HUddersfield,Sunderland,Fulham, Leicester city,Newcastle,A.Villa,Everton,WBA, Burnley,Northampton Stoke.. plus a couple more who have learnt both tastes,too good to go down early points, or totally crap start, but ended in top half positions..
Deeg67 Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 (edited) Forest is the only team you look at and realistically see finishing below us - and that's obviously not enough. At that, Forest has a good manager and they've committed to him. The WC break could be huge for Cooper in trying to integrate the squad - if they're not totally buried by then I could them making a run in the second half and staying up. They have a whiff of us in '14-15 to them. It's fashionable to say Bournemouth, but they're already 1/3 of the way to safety. They have a sort of peak-Burnley grit and stubbornness to them, I think they make it. Who else? Fulham may come back to the pack, maybe Villa. Wolves are probably our other best hope but with a new manager they might have enough talent in the squad to sneak through. Edited 10 October 2022 by Deeg67
Fox92 Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 2 minutes ago, Deeg67 said: Forest is the only team you look at and realistically see finishing below us - and that's obviously not enough. At that, Forest has a good manager and they've committed to him. The WC break could be huge for Cooper in trying to integrate the squad - if they're not totally buried by then I could them making a run in the second half and staying up. They have a whiff of us in '14-15 to them. It's fashionable to say Bournemouth, but they're already 1/3 of the way to safety. They have a sort of peak-Burnley grit and stubbornness to them, I think they make it. Who else? Fulham may come back to the pack, maybe Villa. Wolves are probably our other best hope but with a new manager they might have enough talent in the squad to sneak through. We're only 1/4 into the season and those sides that have started well IE Fulham will start to tail off. Southampton and Brentford will be down in a relegation battle. I'm still convinved Leeds will be too. 1
ParkerPen Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 1 hour ago, Dickov22 said: 1/4 of the season gone and we have 4 points. It’s absolutely outrageous. could we equal or beat Derby's haul...
Fox92 Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 43 minutes ago, Fox92 said: We're only 1/4 into the season and those sides that have started well IE Fulham will start to tail off. Southampton and Brentford will be down in a relegation battle. I'm still convinved Leeds will be too. @Deeg67Dunno what's so funny with what I said. Have you got nothing to add except a laughing face? I never said we wouldn't be in a relegation battle because we will, in fact I think we'll go down. But I still think Forest/Leeds/Fulham/Southampton/Brentford will be in a relegation battle with us too.
Spudulike Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 In 14/15 I never thought we were in a relegation battle as we were so far adrift I got to the stage of not bothering about results of teams above us. I think that could happen again but this current lot don't have the bottle to turn it around. Far too comfortable up at Seagrave. 1
NasPb Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 What hurts my heart the most is the fact that we have a squad that is very good, if we had awful players I'd expect this and be realistic. Rodgers has ripped the soul out of this team, rudkin and the rest need to go for actively allowing it and top needs to seriously be questioned or sell if he doesn't act. This is like being stuck in sinking sand.... RODGERS OUT, PROTEST FOR THE FUTURE OF THE CLUB
Spudulike Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 If I had any say in this, I'd get Rodgers out, Dyche in, and move the training back to Belvoir Drive (I'm sure the women's team wouldn't be that upset moving up to Seagrave). It would probably piss off our sensitive first team squad but it would give an indication who is still up for the fight. Something needs to done to create that team morale.
SuperMike Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 2 hours ago, fuchsntf said: Nothing to do really with the Manager..... Really?
Clever Fox Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 Can any see where the next points are coming from.? Because I can't. We just don't have the right blend in the squad and we're carrying to many passengers.
Pliskin Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 2 hours ago, Happy Fox said: Jason Bourne @JasonBourne1986 “I am not thinking about it,” Rodgers said of relegation. “We are a very strong group and I believe that we will gradually take ourselves away from it.” This is what I meant about the need for honesty. The house is on fire. It’s fine to admit it. He also set a 40 point target. Herein lies the problem. “Set a 40 point target”…. He’s pretty much told the group that they’re all shit.
Mark 'expert' Lawrenson Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 Shock, horror, “we invited the pressure” said Jonny Evans. This has been one of the problems for so long now and nothing changes, take the lead, sit back and it’s only a matter of time before the opposition score. We are terrible defensively, crumble under pressure and are physically and mentally weak. The old saying “the best form of defence is attack” needs to be applied if we are to have any chance of staying up, only the manager is too stuck in his outdated ways to change.
Mark 'expert' Lawrenson Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 14 minutes ago, Clever Fox said: Can any see where the next points are coming from.? Because I can't. We just don't have the right blend in the squad and we're carrying to many passengers. We don’t have the players who will roll up their sleeves and get stuck into the relegation scrap, no leaders, we are weak both physically and mentally. 1
Dan Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 3 hours ago, Dickov22 said: 1/4 of the season gone and we have 4 points. It’s absolutely outrageous. We have as many points as we do losses from winning positions. It's groundbreakingly shit.
Clever Fox Posted 10 October 2022 Posted 10 October 2022 1 hour ago, Mark 'expert' Lawrenson said: We don’t have the players who will roll up their sleeves and get stuck into the relegation scrap, no leaders, we are weak both physically and mentally. That's what I mean, We're to small and to light. We need to sign a few strong physical mobile players even if they aren't technically as good. That would give us a chance to compete.
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