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Thomas isn’t good enough. Neither’s Justin on current form, ever since his injury he’s looked like a different player. It’s depressing.

 

I remember when there were arguments about our full backs rivalling those of Liverpool. Now, for a team supposedly well stocked in the position, we don’t have many options at all.

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9 minutes ago, Joe90lcfc said:

If we lose to Brighton but the board leave it till we loose against villa to sack Rodgers the board need sacking themselves!!! Loose tomorrow RODGERS  ABSOLUTELY HAS TO GO!!! 

My only hope if he does last that long is that we are hoping/expecting villa to make an approach saving us any payoff. (Hopefully with BR encouraging them behind the scenes.)

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14 minutes ago, gw_leics772 said:

My only hope if he does last that long is that we are hoping/expecting villa to make an approach saving us any payoff. (Hopefully with BR encouraging them behind the scenes.)

Why would Villa want him as manager

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6 minutes ago, Lesterlad said:

Why would Villa want him as manager

Project Brendan's,let down by the board etc.etc, they will not deprive the poor lamb.

 

Hopefully after we beat them.

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Someone said at the game on Thursday that we were playing well and it was good to watch when the idiot was challenged and was told it was relegation form. He said nothing wrong with being relegated part of life. The guy is a moron 

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7 hours ago, Silva Fox said:

Still no Catagne? Is he destined to sit the rest of the season out now like Cags?

Castagne's quite often spoken in a quite ambitious way about us which goes against the managers ideals of pretending he's managing Norwich, so no surprise he's probably clashed with him too.

 

Brighton need to finish this twat off and we can start our season properly against Villa.

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2 hours ago, OntarioFox said:

A more astute manager might have seen how congested that left hand side was, and how scared Justin was to play forwards into space to encourage runners, and maybe considered getting them to swap wings. Or telling his players to, you know, make some runs and give him some help. Madison barely touched grass on the right hand side in open play, he was too close to Barnes all game, as was Vardy. We kept packing all our attacking threat into the left hand side and the complete lack of flow was painfully predictable. Pound shop tactics from Brendan - basically 'keep trying the same thing and target Dalot and it might work'. It didn't.

 

Thomas has the slight benefit of having not yet had the occasional forward run coached put of him yet, but he wasn't going to get that space on that side in that game. It took us 93 pissing minutes for Justin to make a positive run into the opposing box despite all the space regularly offered to him, and his shot summed up his display - panicked and sub-par.

 

Ironically given the subject this stemmed from, I remember being frustrated as all hell with Castagne for playing in a similar low-confidence way in a few games last season - checking his own runs to instead come backwards for the ball, killing his own momentum and being forced to play sideways / backwards. He wasn't always like that, but when he was, our attacking threat flatlined.

 

I'd strongly recommend anyone reading this to watch our fullbacks more closely - pick the one with the most space (usually Justin at the minute) and watch how they position themselves to receive the ball over the course of a few attacks down their side. You'll see that dropping back (as opposed to making positive movement to encourage an attack) is a common theme in our play, and the reason so much of our death-by-possession football breaks down in midfield.

 

We have exciting wide defenders. It's the coaching. It's ruining raw talent.

Great post. I looked at some of our defenders stats recently, the full backs in particular and their attacking numbers are awful - and these are players we know are capable of attacking. Justin and Castagne have both been good attackers, look at some of the positions Justin used to get into. Castagne played as a wing back in one of the most attacking back 3 systems in Europe.

 

It's the inept coaching and it has been for 18 months.

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Thomas goes back more than 90% of the time , even our midfield attacking players who receive the ball in space refuse to turn and go forward , would rather pas it straight back , how the hell are u going to score playing back most of the game . Thing is when we do decide to go forward we look good , but then our forward movement across the front line means we don’t create anything. Believe it all comes back to the manager 

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Posted
5 hours ago, RoboFox said:

Thomas isn’t good enough. Neither’s Justin on current form, ever since his injury he’s looked like a different player. It’s depressing.

 

 

The injury isn't the problem, he's fine physically.  He's had all the ambition and progressiveness coached out of him by Rodgers. 

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13 minutes ago, Deeg67 said:

They wouldn't - it's pure fantasy,

They absolutely would, say what you like about Rodgers but he is a decent manager with a CV better than most in outside the top six. 
When he leaves here, on his track record he will undoubtedly and quite easily get another job in the Premier League with a club who wants to push into the top six.
It’s not going great for him or the club on many levels right now, but that doesn’t make him a bad manager.

Look at others at similar levels - Moyes, Howe, Potter etc. all like Rodgers have been through good and bad spells in their careers, but ultimately you are judged on the trophies you win and your final league positions. - in this no manager outside the top six can compete with Rodgers - whether he can turn it around here or not is another question and whether he needs a fresh start somewhere else to refresh is also a possibility.

However, when any job comes up outside the top six he will be on the shortlist and discussed in every board room.

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13 hours ago, Sunbury Fox said:

Anyone else get the feeling that Faes is not a Rodgers-led signing? Rodgers didn't seem massively enthusiastic about Faes in his post game interview the other day. That said, he's not enthusiastic about anything at the moment. 

I'm quite confident this is the case yes.

 

Described as 'Aggressive' and 'Good in the air', not a profile I see fitting in with Rodgers 'philosophy' at all, not key attributes to him.

 

I think the accumulation of not giving Rodgers any money this summer, employing a new Head Of Recruitment who didn't start employment with the club until 1st September (the suggestion is it's contractual - i'm sure negotiations could get round this), and this signing not fitting Rodgers type of player whatsoever speaks volumes.

 

Why we've kept him in place during the summer and wasted the start of the season - The club need to answer.

 

*Saying that, Vestergaard doesn't fit Rodgers' profile either - it was a bizarre signing which whilst playing insipid, boring, Roders-ball it was clear he'd not suit, yet apparently Rodgers overruled his recruitment staff going ahead and signing him, very much a Rodgers signing, so in fairness :dunno: 

 

With rumours of Brunt being took out the U23's late yesterday, he'll probably be joining up with the first team squad and Faes probably won't even be in the team, bench or squad lol 

 

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7 hours ago, Lesterlad said:

Why would Villa want him as manager

He’d probably do well initially with the squad he inherited if he goes there, it’s he MO.

 

The problem we have caused ourselves is giving him a long contract and too much control. Give him a two year contract and cut him loose after that they’d probably be well off. Unless this experience with us has mentally destroyed him. He bounced back from a low after Liverpool by going to the SPL and was riding a wave there when coming to us. Not sure how he’d do going from us to another EPL side on a low…

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7 hours ago, OntarioFox said:

A more astute manager might have seen how congested that left hand side was, and how scared Justin was to play forwards into space to encourage runners, and maybe considered getting them to swap wings. Or telling his players to, you know, make some runs and give him some help. Madison barely touched grass on the right hand side in open play, he was too close to Barnes all game, as was Vardy. We kept packing all our attacking threat into the left hand side and the complete lack of flow was painfully predictable. Pound shop tactics from Brendan - basically 'keep trying the same thing and target Dalot and it might work'. It didn't.

 

Thomas has the slight benefit of having not yet had the occasional forward run coached put of him yet, but he wasn't going to get that space on that side in that game. It took us 93 pissing minutes for Justin to make a positive run into the opposing box despite all the space regularly offered to him, and his shot summed up his display - panicked and sub-par.

 

Ironically given the subject this stemmed from, I remember being frustrated as all hell with Castagne for playing in a similar low-confidence way in a few games last season - checking his own runs to instead come backwards for the ball, killing his own momentum and being forced to play sideways / backwards. He wasn't always like that, but when he was, our attacking threat flatlined.

 

I'd strongly recommend anyone reading this to watch our fullbacks more closely - pick the one with the most space (usually Justin at the minute) and watch how they position themselves to receive the ball over the course of a few attacks down their side. You'll see that dropping back (as opposed to making positive movement to encourage an attack) is a common theme in our play, and the reason so much of our death-by-possession football breaks down in midfield.

 

We have exciting wide defenders. It's the coaching. It's ruining raw talent.

Absolutely spot on, our fullbacks now receive the ball more facing our pivot, ( the centre halves) than midfield or forward. Does anyone remember Chilly going backwards ( literally)? Goes to Chelsea and looks more dangerous than their wingers! It’s the obsession with keeping the ball at all costs but teams now let us have it then pick us off. Rodgers out! Let’s not have ten passes when sometimes one will do.

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22 hours ago, An Sionnach said:

I am pretty sure he would like the sack now while he can seize the narrative and blame the club. However the astute businessman that is Rodgers will also want the absolute maximum payoff. Ouch! the board are scared stiff of that.

Agree with this. I think tho direction of travel is only going one way tho.

 

I expect him to survive until we play Forrest and then be binned - hopefully it doesn’t take to long to bring in the replacement and turn performances around.

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Hoping for a positive 90 min performance but would take the usual flat performance and us stealing a 1-0 win. 

 

Up the citeh. 

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