After 15 games played, do you think we are going down?

[ozleicester]

From the  "After 10 games" poll

As it stands after 10 games.... 
69% say we are going down
31% say we are staying up

360 votes placed

So.... how much has changed in 3-4 weeks?

[Finnegan]

At no point this season have I actually thought we'd go down. 

 

One of two things was inevitable, the squad got it right with Rodgers still here or he got sacked and we climbed the league. 

 

"Too big to go down" is obviously a myth but "too good to go down" isn't, it's just fact. Despite some horrific mismanagement in both a coaching and squad building sense, we've still got the bones of a very good team here and I don't believe we've ever really been in danger. 

 

Early season successes and failures both get wildly over blown for a story. 

[winteriscoming]

I genuinely thought the longer Rodgers stayed the more likely we’d go down. Glad he’s turned it around. 

[Suzie the Fox]

Was never in doubt we would go down. 

[StanSP]

No, and didn't think we would either even when we were in the bottom 3.

 

From memory, I think we were never further than a couple of good results away from getting out of the relegation zone. As it is, we've picked up good form while others have stuttered. 

 

[turlo]

I thought we were down unless we changed manager as was in complete free fall up to the Leeds game. 13 points from the last 6 games including 5 clean sheets has changed my mind and should see us finishing mid table. Now we need to push on and start performing against teams that aren't in complete free fall at the time we played them (Leeds, Wolves, Forest, Everton & West Ham). 

[shailen]

Confidence is a funny thing in football and we've had the two extremes: dreadful and very very good. But even when we were not picking up points, our general play was really good, it was just that our defence + goalkeeper were letting in some easy goals amf putting in below par performances. That changed as soon as Wout came in

[Winchesterfox]

We look fine now, but it's easy to forget how bad we were before Wout arrived.  One point in seven games, 22 goals conceded, defence and goalkeeper all over the place and a manager pointing the finger at everyone but himself.

[Paninistickers]

I suppose there are usually 4 or 5 teams each season (who dont get relegated, Southampton, everton etc) have a period on free fall, gaining sorta 1 point from 21....and our horror  run was magnified because it was the first 7 games and not cloaked by a drop from, say,.9th to 17th. 

 

I think someone said on this forum ( in the heat of our bad run) that they recalled palace having a similar monstrous start a few years ago and ended easy in mid table. 

[STEVIE B]

It's just so refreshing having a 'keeper who isn't afraid to come off his line for corners & free kicks. It must help the defence so much. 

Edited 13 November 2022 by STEVIE B

[tylesta]

To be honest I thought we struggled without kasper think he was a big loss not just on the pitch. Think that didn't help our start

[coolhandfox]

I don’t think we were as bad as some made out in the first 7, same as we haven’t been as good as some think in the last 8.

 

Would should have and could picked more points from the Brentford, Southampton and Chelsea games.

 

I think the Fofana saga, and replacing a club legend made things a little more tricky.

 

Surprised some are still voting yes, 6 wins from 23 games shouldn’t be an issue.

 

 

Edited 13 November 2022 by coolhandfox

[FosseSpark]

Basically at this stage Knudsen and Stowell could be manager IMO. The current squad just needs solid defensive shape and Barnes, Maddison, Tielemans, Daka, Vardy sort the goals out with their individual brilliance. Theres nothing about our attacking play that Rodgers controls or coaches into the team i dont think. Unless he has tielemans practicing 30yd top bins volleys or has taught barnes to run 40 yds with the ball and smash it in. 

If we routinely scored specific types of goals due to a 'style' youd take your hat off to rodgers, but if you take maddison, tielemans or.barnes out of the team then rodgers couldnt replicate the same with others.

 

[Stadt]

49 minutes ago, Suzie the Fox said:

Was never in doubt we would go down. 

That’s not really true, we were 0-1-6 after our first 7 games. We dreadful until we played Forest. 
 

[Dahnsouff]

8 minutes ago, FosseSpark said:

Basically at this stage Knudsen and Stowell could be manager IMO. The current squad just needs solid defensive shape and Barnes, Maddison, Tielemans, Daka, Vardy sort the goals out with their individual brilliance. Theres nothing about our attacking play that Rodgers controls or coaches into the team i dont think. Unless he has tielemans practicing 30yd top bins volleys or has taught barnes to run 40 yds with the ball and smash it in. 

If we routinely scored specific types of goals due to a 'style' youd take your hat off to rodgers, but if you take maddison, tielemans or.barnes out of the team then rodgers couldnt replicate the same with others.

 

Sorry that is singularly the most ridiculous Rodger’s bashing tactic yet. 

Neither goal yesterday was a worldie I note and you remove KDB, Rodri, John Stones, Edison and that Portugese lad they would be less effective

Edited 13 November 2022 by Dahnsouff

[turtmcfly]

56 minutes ago, Suzie the Fox said:

Was never in doubt we would go down. 

 

I think I know what you mean, but this seems like an attempt at a double negative! 

 

[fuchsntf]

55 minutes ago, Suzie the Fox said:

Was never in doubt we would go down. 

As sure as you will be a granny,we were never going to to get relegated.

If they are twins we  will be qualifying for Europe..

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, turtmcfly said:

 

I think I know what you mean, but this seems like an attempt at a double negative! 

 

Kinda felt what Suze meant (I think) but it had to read it a few times. 

[Suzie the Fox]

9 minutes ago, Stadt said:

That’s not really true, we were 0-1-6 after our first 7 games. We dreadful until we played Forest. 
 

Perhaps i should have said 'I' was never in doubt. Even as bad as were were for the 1st 7 games, i still didn't think we would be relegated. 

 

Blind hope, i guess. 

 

Edit to add, just read the other replies and you are right, i really didn't word it appropriately. Message to self to re-read before clicking post. 

Edited 13 November 2022 by Suzie the Fox

[fuchsntf]

12 minutes ago, FosseSpark said:

Basically at this stage Knudsen and Stowell could be manager IMO. The current squad just needs solid defensive shape and Barnes, Maddison, Tielemans, Daka, Vardy sort the goals out with their individual brilliance. Theres nothing about our attacking play that Rodgers controls or coaches into the team i dont think. Unless he has tielemans practicing 30yd top bins volleys or has taught barnes to run 40 yds with the ball and smash it in. 

If we routinely scored specific types of goals due to a 'style' youd take your hat off to rodgers, but if you take maddison, tielemans or.barnes out of the team then rodgers couldnt replicate the same with others.

 

Are you additioning

 for the New Monthy-python scripts..

[copunk]

The funny thing the summer transfer window seemed an absolute disaster, yet it appears Faes and the set piece coach were the only signings we needed...for now 

I really want us to add a couple of players in January, it's an abysmal market as we know but we really need a couple more for strength off the bench 

 

[surrifox]

25 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

I suppose there are usually 4 or 5 teams each season (who dont get relegated, Southampton, everton etc) have a period on free fall, gaining sorta 1 point from 21....and our horror  run was magnified because it was the first 7 games and not cloaked by a drop from, say,.9th to 17th. 

 

I think someone said on this forum ( in the heat of our bad run) that they recalled palace having a similar monstrous start a few years ago and ended easy in mid table. 

yes that Palace stat sustained me a bit . they were terrible at the start of that season . 

 

It looks like being an odd season with no-one a nailed on relegation candidate as yet  and therefore a number of clubs will be looking over their shoulder even from a seemingly comfortable mid table position. Forest have looked terrible as have Wolves but every so often they can pick up surprise results and sides like Everton and W ham who are bottom of the form table will strengthen in January or hire in a new manager. I have a funny feeling that Brentford will go down . It happens every season a side that pulled off a miracle result early in the season ends up in the bin.

[Apollo]

We were never going down based on the first 10 games - no one is relegated in October. We were either going to do what we’ve done, or Rodgers would have eventually gone and we would improved.

 

Was the usual “we’re doomed” suspects on here shooting their mouths off

[Fox85]

I honestly thought the players, the tactics everything wasn't working for BR and he needed to leave in order to save the season.

I was 100% wrong and I dont mind admitting I was wrong he has completely changed my mind.

 

Dare I say it a result against Newcastle and Liverpool even 2 draws I would be quite confident after some business in January to push for Europe spot

[PAPA LAZAROU]

Depends on if we sell our best palyers come january. If youri or madders goes we are going to be straight back into big trouble. If we keep them it will be no sweat. But somehow I feel they are already sold and bought.