Rudkin

[kenny]

49 minutes ago, Ginger_Filbert said:

Not directly about Rudkin but to me it sounds like he understands the fan’s are frustrated about certain things which includes him. 
 

Like I said easy to read too much into it but I’m wishful thinking. 

Sucking up to the big boss to get a better contract I reckon.

 

Cuts Rudkin out of the negotiating.

[UniFox21]

 

 

Not about Rudkin at all, but mad that we seen our scouts, medical staff, analytics, groundsmen, scouts all poached and working at huge side.  Yet not a single rumour about Rudkin. 

[Wymsey]

Why would he leave LCFC, given the big salary and other benefits?

[Jimmy]

18 hours ago, RYM said:

Yes so if it’s clear he does what he wants, why poke the fire? 
 

You just don’t go there. It’s a huge fail.

maybe just maybe the players think Rudkin is a charlatan too

[Jimmy]

55 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Why would he leave LCFC, given the big salary and other benefits?

ambition, if he was a real DoF and good at the job he's want to work at the highest level possible

[sylofox]

23 hours ago, Spiritwalker said:

It depends what Vardy’s demands are. I’m not an apologist for Rudkin but it’s his job to act in the

best interests of the club not in the best interests of JV.

😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 

 

Has that just been pointed out to Rudkin?

 

He should of been told this 3yrs ago.

[An Away Move]

I’d rather Vardy walked at 37 than have us over a barrel for a ridiculous wage at this stage of his career. We need to run the club in a sustainable way. I love Vardy but the vast majority of his best days are behind him. That’s just a fact. 

[STUHILL]

15 minutes ago, An Away Move said:

I’d rather Vardy walked at 37 than have us over a barrel for a ridiculous wage at this stage of his career. We need to run the club in a sustainable way. I love Vardy but the vast majority of his best days are behind him. That’s just a fact. 

We have no idea what wage Vardy wants or will accept. I suspect he will stay and accept a reduction on the 140k. Anything sub 100k would be OK with me. 

The club will want as low as possible without insulting him and his achievements, and Vardy will want as high as possible, without talking himself out of a deal altogether. Balancing act for both him and the club now, and both are in good positions really, that is why I expect they will eventually meet in the middle. Some fans will still think that is too high, whilst others will see the bigger picture and what he brings to the club as a whole.

[filthyfox]

3 hours ago, STUHILL said:

We have no idea what wage Vardy wants or will accept. I suspect he will stay and accept a reduction on the 140k. Anything sub 100k would be OK with me. 

The club will want as low as possible without insulting him and his achievements, and Vardy will want as high as possible, without talking himself out of a deal altogether. Balancing act for both him and the club now, and both are in good positions really, that is why I expect they will eventually meet in the middle. Some fans will still think that is too high, whilst others will see the bigger picture and what he brings to the club as a whole.

80k, 20k bench fee, 20k appearance fee, 40k start fee, and 100k per goal/assist

[5waller5]

Just been reading about how much infrastructure / process / expertise David Moyes has been setting up at West Ham. 
 

if you believe it’s down to him then he’d be an amazing DOF!!! 

[foxile5]

13 hours ago, filthyfox said:

80k, 20k bench fee, 20k appearance fee, 40k start fee, and 100k per goal/assist

This is unhinged. 

[sm1]

1 hour ago, 5waller5 said:

Just been reading about how much infrastructure / process / expertise David Moyes has been setting up at West Ham. 
 

if you believe it’s down to him then he’d be an amazing DOF!!! 

He's an old school manager that will look after the whole club, hence why Fergie handpicked him for the United job. They've not really made much progress since they sacked him and pissed billions up the wall, something Moyes wouldn't allowed. Even West Ham fans were moaning about him buying Ward Prowse and he's ended up being one of their best players. Guys like him and Pearson are slowing going out of fashion.

[Claudio Fannieri]

An unnamed premier league club is actively recruiting for a Sporting Director role on LinkedIn via specialist football recruitment company. 
 

Can only hope this is us 🙏🏼

[AjcW]

2 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

An unnamed premier league club is actively recruiting for a Sporting Director role on LinkedIn via specialist football recruitment company. 
 

Can only hope this is us 🙏🏼

It's Newcastle

[gerblod]

On 06/05/2024 at 16:16, An Away Move said:

I’d rather Vardy walked at 37 than have us over a barrel for a ridiculous wage at this stage of his career. We need to run the club in a sustainable way. I love Vardy but the vast majority of his best days are behind him. That’s just a fact. 

That's a 'fact' is it? It's your opinion - nothing more than that. He may be slower and he might have lost some of his timing, but he's still capable of being a thorn in the side of a number of Premier defences. I'll never understand the alacrity with which certain 'fans' are willing to write him off. Who has been a better striker than he has been this season - Daka, Cannon, Iheanacho?

[EastAnglianFox]

5 minutes ago, AjcW said:

It's Newcastle

Bet you’re fun at a party 😂

[AjcW]

I've said this in a few different threads over the years. But for me, taking all emotion, anger, frustration etc out of it, the most startling thing is that Whelan, Rudkin and Herlihy are ALL still here after so many years/successes.

 

Susan has overseen the most successful period in our history

John has been DOF during our famed 'buy cheap, sell high' phase

Anthony has been comms director during arguably the trickiest bit of comms anyone will ever have to deliver, amongst also overseeing the above periods of success.

 

WHY have none of them been poached or been ambitious enough to further themselves?

If i've got that on my CV i'm getting myself a place at the City group table, or chasing some of that Chelsea cash! 

 

The problem isn't just people being held accountable for performance, it's comfort, they must have it SO good here that nothing could shift them, and that in itself is a problem. Whether it's the thai genorisity, flexibility, who knows? But that's what needs fixing.

 

It must be demoralising for their teams too. Where is the ultimate progression?

Edited 7 May by AjcW

[AjcW]

Just now, EastAnglianFox said:

Bet you’re fun at a party 😂

Did realise how blunt that was after posting haha

[An Away Move]

1 hour ago, gerblod said:

That's a 'fact' is it? It's your opinion - nothing more than that. He may be slower and he might have lost some of his timing, but he's still capable of being a thorn in the side of a number of Premier defences. I'll never understand the alacrity with which certain 'fans' are willing to write him off. Who has been a better striker than he has been this season - Daka, Cannon, Iheanacho?

Yes. Vardy has a greater number of his best days behind him compared to what lies ahead. That is a fact. Not just opinion. Unless you want to argue that the essence of time itself has no relationship with performance and depreciation? 

[gerblod]

3 hours ago, An Away Move said:

Yes. Vardy has a greater number of his best days behind him compared to what lies ahead. That is a fact. Not just opinion. Unless you want to argue that the essence of time itself has no relationship with performance and depreciation? 

An erudite argument indeed, but rather specious. 

Depreciation applies to cars and office equipment more than athletes and you appear to be applying a sell-by date to him as if he were a time-limited asset rather than a professional footballer still in possession of the ability to score and assist in the scoring of goals.

 

[Nolucklcfc]

Still find it staggering that this board that got us relegated hasn’t seen any changes … 

[Daggers]

2 hours ago, Nolucklcfc said:

Still find it staggering that this board that got us relegated hasn’t seen any changes … 

I’m sure there have been changes - there’ll have been a cost of living pay rise for one. 

[pkonline]

Bring back Claude Puel as DoF! He did very well with bringing in decent young players.

[lcfcbluearmy]

17 hours ago, AjcW said:

I've said this in a few different threads over the years. But for me, taking all emotion, anger, frustration etc out of it, the most startling thing is that Whelan, Rudkin and Herlihy are ALL still here after so many years/successes.

 

Susan has overseen the most successful period in our history

John has been DOF during our famed 'buy cheap, sell high' phase

Anthony has been comms director during arguably the trickiest bit of comms anyone will ever have to deliver, amongst also overseeing the above periods of success.

 

WHY have none of them been poached or been ambitious enough to further themselves?

If i've got that on my CV i'm getting myself a place at the City group table, or chasing some of that Chelsea cash! 

 

The problem isn't just people being held accountable for performance, it's comfort, they must have it SO good here that nothing could shift them, and that in itself is a problem. Whether it's the thai genorisity, flexibility, who knows? But that's what needs fixing.

 

It must be demoralising for their teams too. Where is the ultimate progression?

Well I mean yes sort of but not really, Rudkin only became DOF in 2014 which was after we had brought in vardy, mahrez, only very soon before we brought in Albrighton so probably had very little to do with it. 

 

Two years later we had started to shift away from this moddle and Steve Walsh left which we then almost completely shifted away from the model.

 

I would say that Rudkin coming in was the start of us moving away from buy cheap sell high and was not his plan

[Mickyblueeyes]

The sporting/football director is so important in modern day football. It use to be that the buck stopped with the manager. Manager's working with the club secretary to do deals and rightly so, when things went wrong, would lose their job. 

 

The DOF/Sporting Director now makes a lot of those calls. He (or she) should have the same scrutiny/pressure that managers come under. They are just as important as the manager. 

 

Our progress will forever be stiffled by having a low value DOF. We previously have been able to hide that by having a maverick leader like Vichai and/or quality "Heads of Recruitment" like Macia and Walsh. Let's hope Glover fits that bill too. The problem with having this hybrid role is that at some point a quality candidate will want the top job. With an incredibly poor, underqualified owner like Top and an equally under qualified DOF like Rudkin, we will just keep hitting brick walls and having seasons like we did last time we were in the PL. Because we are dependent on the decisions of a few well though of employees going well. 

 

Either Top or Rudkin need to leave (I prefer the latter first), or they will keep causing harm to the club (whether that is intentional or not). Because two equally inept people cannot paper over the cracks.