Conor Coady

[stu]

2 minutes ago, KrispyKreme said:

Because I knew Chris Woods would be a good example to use as he's an ex player of yours?

Also a prime example because of the great record he has against Coady.

Mate, it’s a long running joke on here that his name is Chris Wood.

 

Chris Woods is the old Sheffield Wednesday goalkeeper, hence the ribbing as Leicester fans get it wrong all the time too

 

Cheers for the insight on Coady. 

[The_77]

4 minutes ago, KrispyKreme said:

Because I knew Chris Woods would be a good example to use as he's an ex player of yours?

Also a prime example because of the great record he has against Coady.

No, because you wrote “Chris Woods” instead of “Chris Wood” like so many of my fellow Leicester fans. 😂😂😂😂

 

Spend a bit of time here and you’ll come across “Gary Linekar” fairly regularly too. 

[Lillehamring]

5 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Can't say I'm that enthralled by this but it could be a necessary signing in isolation.

 

I'm more worried by the trend of Coady, Winks, Steffan. These are experienced players coming from PL clubs on big wages where playing in the Championship is a step down and if we return to the PL aren't the profile of player that will necessarily improve or add squad value for resale and reinvestment. There's always a need for the odd one of these players but in 24 hours the 3 concrete links are all this type of player and alarm bells are ringing.

 

I'd prefer Coady if we had to sign one of him or Winks as a leader though.

I assume they see it as building an experienced spine of PL quality players, they can then fill around that with more youthful risky elements - you have to remember how many players we need to bring in - they can't all be inexperienced or luxury-type players.  As others have said - it was a lack of leaders that caused us so much trouble last year, and these are players that have shown they have those qualities, 

[Lillehamring]

5 hours ago, st albans fox said:

He was behind tarkowski and mina

 

When dyche went to a back three for their most important game he brought him back in ahead of Keane - he had previously preferred Keane which most Everton fans thought was ridiculous

 

he’s 30

a four year deal for a thirty year old CB who is a strong character in the dressing room sounds reasonable to me 

 

 

He also has scored 4 goals and registered 9 assists at championship level

[Lillehamring]

3 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Coady isn't walking away from north of 70 bags a week to come to Leicester for half of that. He's got 1 last decent pay day, exactly the type of signings Micky Adams made in 2004 and Sven in 2010/11. These players won't drop down to the Championship out the good of their own heart if there's wedge elsewhere to be had.

 

 

but there's no precedent for playing a championship player that much - 50k seems about the top level, and for an england international that seems like a smart investment.  I get that there is some fear over salary due to the recent amounts being paid (as a PL team, it must be noted), but the chances of promotion increase massively if you pay top dollar to get someone who, on paper at least, will likely be the best defender in the league.

[Dan]

2 hours ago, The_77 said:

I think Coady is a limited player but, come on, Wolves fans adore him. 
 

I do agree that he’s the type of personality needed around the squad, though. 

Up until this thread, they're not the Wolves fans I've been coming across  

[Bluearmyfox28]

7 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Can't say I'm that enthralled by this but it could be a necessary signing in isolation.

 

I'm more worried by the trend of Coady, Winks, Steffan. These are experienced players coming from PL clubs on big wages where playing in the Championship is a step down and if we return to the PL aren't the profile of player that will necessarily improve or add squad value for resale and reinvestment. There's always a need for the odd one of these players but in 24 hours the 3 concrete links are all this type of player and alarm bells are ringing.

 

I'd prefer Coady if we had to sign one of him or Winks as a leader though.

See I would see it as the opposite, they are building the spine of the team with experience, leadership and very good technical ability.
 

Once your spine is in place you can have fun with your creative players from fullbacks, wingers, attacking midfielders etc.

[Bluearmyfox28]

5 hours ago, Bert said:

Souttar Coady Faes

Ricardo Winks KDH Justin 

 

Then sort a front 3 out. 

Oscar Bobb, Vardy/Daka and Kel… I would be happy with that.

[CloudFox]

I'm in favour of this transfer as I think he adds some great leadership qualities to the squad, and should be solid at Championship level.

 

However, just for balance I asked my Dad about him (he's a Wolves fan):

 

He’s a cheerleader full stop. Pretty hopeless defender, way too slow. He shouted a lot and to be honest I don’t know how our multi-National lads understood a bloody word. Southgate took him to the World Cup with no intention of playing him.. he was like the mascot!!

 

So he's not a fan of Coady's, but there you go 😅

[Ric Flair]

8 hours ago, Lillehamring said:

I assume they see it as building an experienced spine of PL quality players, they can then fill around that with more youthful risky elements - you have to remember how many players we need to bring in - they can't all be inexperienced or luxury-type players.  As others have said - it was a lack of leaders that caused us so much trouble last year, and these are players that have shown they have those qualities, 

Possibly so, but there's doubts they're actually PL quality any longer, I know had we still been in the PL for example and any of these came in I'd not see it as an improvement. If they were still our most important 1st team players if we do return quickly then I suspect we won't be there for long again either, but that's a separate point.

 

Our rebuild has to be be gotten right. I most definitely don't know what is the right way, none of us do. However, the attitude and desire of the players has to be a stark transformation to the malaise of the last few years. Signing experienced PL players stepping down represents more of a risk than is often said. The main reason being one of motivation and attitude, we've seen a multitude of players who don't care or necessarily want to be here, but do so for the generous wages we pay. This rebuild needs to be a blend of dynamic young players who have the potential to improve immensely and experienced players with the hunger to achieve, but we also need to completely change the financial operation of our club.

 

Its that reason I have the most concerns about signing perceived PL quality experienced players, they're not coming here out the goodness of their own hearts. We'll pay big wages for Championship standards and put pressure on our finances, this represents a huge risk that I think isn't worth it. In the same manner of the argument we needed an experienced new manager with promotion from the Championship under his belt, as opposed to an unproven young manager with potential, I do think we need to be clever in our rebuild. We shouldn't be afraid to focus on Championship experience as opposed to just assuming PL players on the decline are better equipped for us. We've failed with that before, see Micky Adams in 2004 or Sven in 2010/11.

 

There's been loads of players from the PL drop down and be quite poor/not worth the salaries they command. I suspect West Brom would say that of Marc Albrighton last year for one.

 

Anyway, I'm more concerned about the collective approach than the individuals. Coady has some qualities that could well be an asset to us, I just hope the club get it right because if they don't we could be in for prolonged pain we've not felt for many a year.

[lcfc sheff]

Percy hasn’t reported on Coady has he? Maybe there’s nothing in it. I don’t see him being the middle centreback surely Souttar is the guy for this as hasn’t got the pace to be the Outer centreback? 
 

mind you I wouldn’t mind him for his passing abilities but we need two/ three wingers with pace and probably a striker with some hold up abilities 

[Mickyblueeyes]

He would replace Maddison as the one to give a “great” post match interview after a disgusting loss. 
 

I’ve never really paid attention to Coady. He was in the World Cup squad six months ago. As long as he can defend he is a massive upgrade on Amartey.

[LestaLad]

So the bid was £5m that we had rejected. 

This is from the Percy article on Winks.

[Dames]

30 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

He would replace Maddison as the one to give a “great” post match interview after a disgusting loss. 
 

I’ve never really paid attention to Coady. He was in the World Cup squad six months ago. As long as he can defend he is a massive upgrade on Amartey.

I find it mad that we are potentially getting 2 recent England internationals when we are the Championship. I just don't know if that means we are pulling off coups or the England squad is actually very mediocre... 

[filbertway]

Coady in and Evans out sounds like good business to me. Would be nice to have a genuine captain option as well.

[moore_94]

2 minutes ago, LestaLad said:

So the bid was £5m that we had rejected. 

This is from the Percy article on Winks.

Disappointed we are having to pay more than what Everton could’ve got him for

[Sambiasso]

2 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Disappointed we are having to pay more than what Everton could’ve got him for

It was the structure of the deal, was around 2m up front with add ons etc. 

[filbertway]

12 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Disappointed we are having to pay more than what Everton could’ve got him for

Especially as he's going to turn 31 this season and seemingly surplus to requirements at Wolves.

 

With Rudkin negotiating though anything is possible. £10 million and 75k p/w should do it

 

[HybridFox]

Wolves owe us Coady after Ryan Benett 

[Baldricks Cunning Plan]

Wolves fan here in peace.

 

If Maresca wants to play with a back 3, at £5m Coady will be a terrific signing for you. Never stops talking and organising, can ping 60 yard passes out to either flank, and is good mopping up any danger. As mentioned by other Wolves fans on here, he was deemed surplus to requirements due to the Portuguese Deano (Saunders not Smith!) wanting to move away from a back three to a back four and deciding that Coady wasn't part of his plans. He can play in a back 4 as he has done so for Wolves, Everton and England (when Maguire was sent off against Denmark) and will be fine there in the Championship. His weaknesses in a back four are more exposed though against pace and physicality but I'd have no qualms in playing him there if it was Wolves facing life in the Championship this season. 

 

Good luck for the season ahead and I think with just a couple of shrewd signings you should walk the league. Residing in Leicestershire, I hope that will be the case as I want to take the opportunity of picking up another a couple of bargain tickets in the Kopparberg lounge the next time we meet!  

[Baldricks Cunning Plan]

1 hour ago, moore_94 said:

Disappointed we are having to pay more than what Everton could’ve got him for

I would imagine that Everton paid a loan fee which would have made the overall deal above £5m. Those who questioned his spell at Everton should take a look through this thread where he is often praised during his time there. Being a Liverpool fan worked against him when the team were struggling but as mentioned in an earlier post Dyche played him in the final game (in a back 3) when their survival was on the line. Plenty of Everton fans on there thought that for the fee involved he should have been signed.

 

 https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/conor-coady.115825/

Edited 28 June 2023 by Baldricks Cunning Plan

[It'sblueupnorth]

53 minutes ago, Dames said:

I find it mad that we are potentially getting 2 recent England internationals when we are the Championship. I just don't know if that means we are pulling off coups or the England squad is actually very mediocre... 

England squad is just very average. Coady can only play in the middle of a 3 and isn’t brilliant then. Wolves fans call him the cheerleader cause all he does is stand and shouts and points

[Tuna]

9 minutes ago, It'sblueupnorth said:

England squad is just very average. Coady can only play in the middle of a 3 and isn’t brilliant then. Wolves fans call him the cheerleader cause all he does is stand and shouts and points

See the two posts directly above yours.

[when_you're_smiling]

1 hour ago, Dames said:

I find it mad that we are potentially getting 2 recent England internationals when we are the Championship. I just don't know if that means we are pulling off coups or the England squad is actually very mediocre... 

Said this in another thread - it shows up how much it depends on who you play for.

 

Less so with Coady but England have struggled with centre backs.

 

It’s mad though Winks has more than three times as many caps as Maddison while only being a year older.

 

 

[The Bear]

Another potential position is for him to be moved forwards to DM in a John Stones stylee.

 

He started his career as central midfielder at Huddersfield, and scored a belter against Wolves. One of the reasons I think we bought him. 

 

https://youtu.be/5iA3cjPd010&t=47