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Just now, Trav Le Bleu said:

Because Borthwick failed to respond to the SA subs, so they gained momentum.

 

Bad management.

Naa because England were coping with their replacements. 

 

Sinckler is a myth in his effectiveness and their scrum picked on. 

 

That and Pollard is terminator 

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Just now, st albans fox said:

Their replacement props destroyed ours - as simple as that 

Yes ..our Dunkirk was sunk on the Prop changes…

We might have hold on 5-10 mins,before those changes…

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Another thing I dont get - offsides. I thought players couldn't effect play ahead of the ball, yet in the ruck quite often defending players were going around and behind the attackers. Happened multiple times

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If I'm being proper critical then the game management from England wasn't up to spec in the last quarter, but then every scrum they were getting utterly beasted. Saffers too powerful in that one element and it turned out to be crucial.

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1 minute ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Is it just me that finds Faf de Klerk irritating

Nah just proven fact

 

Although South Africa by coaches and players have the highest ratio of punchable faces. 

 

Think that's why Lions tours are always better v them

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1 minute ago, leicsmac said:

If I'm being proper critical then the game management from England wasn't up to spec in the last quarter, but then every scrum they were getting utterly beasted. Saffers too powerful in that one element and it turned out to be crucial.

Superior in the line out too. 

 

England's tactic was keep the ball mostly dead and away from our end of the pitch. They forgot the part about keeping the ball down the other end at the same time. Very Borthwick Tigers v Saracens. 

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3 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Superior in the line out too. 

 

England's tactic was keep the ball mostly dead and away from our end of the pitch. They forgot the part about keeping the ball down the other end at the same time. Very Borthwick Tigers v Saracens. 

Don't think there was that much of a difference at the lineout tbh, though I've not seen the stats.

 

I can't fault the game plan for the first three quarters of the game, but then they simply got outmuscled.

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6 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Is it just me that finds Faf de Klerk irritating


My Mrs has no interest in Rugby whatsoever but after the camera being on him for no more than 10 seconds called him a “slimy fvck” that made her shudder 

 

Knowing her she’ll be dreaming about him all night now so obviously I think he’s a cvnt lol

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A few of you will be wondering why s Africa got that penalty at the end to win - it wasn’t very clear who had offended 

 

this is where the previous scrums come into play - when you get continually hammered in the front row and then there is a 50/50 call, you nearly always lose the call. 

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That was very unlucky for England - on top for most of the game .

 

Played well generally but caught out at the end after the scrum changes.

 

Guess it shows why SA are champions for now.

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Even with a 15-6 lead, it just felt like it was going to happen. We’d have been trounced by NZ anyway, but it would’ve been great to topple SA. The South African scrum was a complete repeat of 2019.

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4 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

England really struggled to score tries against anyone with a semblance of defensive organisation. Their luck was going to run out sooner or later. You're not going to beat the big nations 3 points at a time. You've got to score tries.

The 2003 winners did pretty much exactly that. Perhaps the game has moved on a bit since then though.

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6 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

The 2003 winners did pretty much exactly that. Perhaps the game has moved on a bit since then though.

But they had the flair of Jason Robinson who had the ability to unlock any defense at any moment. I don't see anyone like that in this England squad.

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