Tom Cannon

[AjcW]

Clearly being brought in as a long term JV replacement.

 

I wonder if long term with this tactic, once he settles in, Casadei is meant to be the hold up/pass out to the wingers man, and the striker is free to do as they please. 

 

3 at the back, 3 in midfield with the rb tucking in, Casadei in a roaming AM hole, wingers key to everything and the striker ready to pounce.

[FLAN]

Everton season ticket colleague says he’s really good. So why aren’t they using him given how toothless they are? 

[ROB-THE-BLUE]

Just now, AjcW said:

Clearly being brought in as a long term JV replacement.

 

I wonder if long term with this tactic, once he settles in, Casadei is meant to be the hold up/pass out to the wingers man, and the striker is free to do as they please. 

 

3 at the back, 3 in midfield with the rb tucking in, Casadei in a roaming AM hole, wingers key to everything and the striker ready to pounce.

Won't be long term if Casadei only stays a year

[AjcW]

Just now, ROB-THE-BLUE said:

Won't be long term if Casadei only stays a year

42 games this season was 'long term' enough for me  

[Lionator]

Cannon good with Ball?

[Swarles Barkley]

3 minutes ago, FLAN said:

Everton season ticket colleague says he’s really good. So why aren’t they using him given how toothless they are? 

I would probably think its because he's too much of a risk to use in the prem and Everton are well in the shitter financially and need money. Don't see them raising much cash with the squad they have

[goose2010]

5 minutes ago, FLAN said:

Everton season ticket colleague says he’s really good. So why aren’t they using him given how toothless they are? 

definitely doesn't fit the Dyche 'big man' style. 

[volpeazzurro]

19 hours ago, RowlattsFox said:

Doesn't mean he's good enough but Preston fans i know were keen to sign him again. 

They were keen to sign Iversen too.

[volpeazzurro]

7 minutes ago, FLAN said:

Everton season ticket colleague says he’s really good. So why aren’t they using him given how toothless they are? 

I thought that too 🤔

[Happy Fox]

Everton need the cash I don’t think they want to sell either him or Iwobi but they need the cash.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

Anyone who suggests this lad isn't good enough is bang out of order . . . 

[Blanchflower78]

Unfortunately unless you are the next Rooney, teenage strikers just don't get game time in the prem regardless of the teams fortunes. Even more so likely to be protective of them in that type of environment. 

 

He's very young, great youth record and scored nearly 1 in 2 games whilst in championship last season, our current level.

 

On the basis players generally improve with age then question is does he have the immediate credentials to help the team and can those attributes be developed and bettered with time.

If the answer is yes it's a no brainer

[AjcW]

9 minutes ago, FLAN said:

Everton season ticket colleague says he’s really good. So why aren’t they using him given how toothless they are? 

 

1 minute ago, volpeazzurro said:

I thought that too 🤔

If he'd started him in these first 3 games, and he hadn't scored, their horrific fans would be on top of him. Dyche probably doing his best to protect him from that toxic waste.

[Stadt]

17 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Yes but 5th percentile is still crazy. I don't care what style of play Preston play, if 95% of other strikers have attempted more passes than you then you're probably not coming in to play the Iheanacho pseudo-10 role. 

 

For context, Patson Daka is in something like the 55th percentile. 5th is very much peak Jamie Vardy. 

Cameron Archer on loan at Preston, as a 20 year old (18 starts, eerily similar) was in the 19th percentile for passes attempted.

 

48th percentile last season.

[urban.spaceman]

11 minutes ago, FLAN said:

Everton season ticket colleague says he’s really good. So why aren’t they using him given how toothless they are? 

Everton are thick as pigshit?

[Stopharage]

1 hour ago, Simmo86 said:

Write a strongly worded letter to the club, I'm sure they'll value your opinion!

Or delegate to The Foxes Trust, sure they’ll do a grand job. 

[Pliskin]

12 minutes ago, FLAN said:

Everton season ticket colleague says he’s really good. So why aren’t they using him given how toothless they are? 

Because Dyche likes mukkeh footeh 

[volpeazzurro]

1 hour ago, Chrysalis said:

Feels like our scouting has fallen so far, I remember we used to sign unknown stars from lower league like vardy or mahrez from france, now we going for a everton striker reject.

Weren't Albrighton, Simpson and Huth all considered rejects or surplus to requirements when we signed them?

[Finnegan]

8 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Cameron Archer on loan at Preston, as a 20 year old (18 starts, eerily similar) was in the 19th percentile for passes attempted.

 

48th percentile last season.

 

That's not exactly that same as expecting Cannon to go from 5th to 73rd (Iheanacho.)

 

I mean come on man. 

 

 

I think we're going back and forth largely for the sakes of it here. I'm not criticising Cannon, I've actually become quite positive about this, I think he's a good move. 

 

But I don't care what the sample size is for the data or how Preston compare to us, there's no chance that we have the same expectations for TC that we do for Kel. This kid pretty obviously has more likeness to a Vardy/Daka and that is almost certainly why we value him. 

 

His passes attempted will almost certainly be higher this year by virtue of our dominance but I still expect we will be valuing his take-ons and his movement off the ball more (and a low key shout out for his defensive contributions.) 

 

Edited 1 September 2023 by Finnegan

[Gravel]

19 minutes ago, FLAN said:

Everton season ticket colleague says he’s really good. So why aren’t they using him given how toothless they are? 

Tell them by reply that Ward is really good...

[ARTY_FOX]

4 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

Weren't Albrighton, Simpson and Huth all considered rejects or surplus to requirements when we signed them?

Along with drinkwater and James.

[AjcW]

6 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

That's not exactly that same as expecting Cannon to go from 5th to 73rd (Iheanacho.)

 

I mean come on man. 

 

 

I think we're going back and forth largely for the sakes of it here. I'm not criticising Cannon, I've actually become quite positive about this, I think he's a good move. 

 

But I don't care what the sample size is for the data or how Preston compare to us, there's no chance that we have the same expectations for TC that we do for Kel. This kid pretty obviously has more likeness to a Vardy/Daka and that is almost certainly why we value him. 

 

His passes attempted will almost certainly be higher this year by virtue of our dominance but I still expect we will be valuing his take-ons and his movement off the ball more (and a low key shout out for his defensive contributions.) 

 

Question for you, stats aside do you think a good coach can still get a 20 year old to learn new tricks? 

 

His stats above are playing for a VERY direct manager whose teams set up to concede barely any goals and hit teams on the break. 

Edited 1 September 2023 by AjcW

[volpeazzurro]

11 minutes ago, AjcW said:

 

If he'd started him in these first 3 games, and he hadn't scored, their horrific fans would be on top of him. Dyche probably doing his best to protect him from that toxic waste.

As someone rightly commented, he might just not be suited to Dyches football approach. Maresca probably sees something entirely different in him. If that's the case, for the money and age he is it has to be worth a try, particularly if he's to run alongside initially with Vardy, Daka and Iheanacho. I doubt at least two of those will be here next season also.

[5waller5]

3 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said:

Along with drinkwater and James.

Drinkwater was POTY the season before signing for us?? 

[STUHILL]

Happy with this! 

Perfect 3rd option striker behind Nacho and Vardy. 

Glad it is not a loan either, as he will really want to develop and push for starts here. 

Vardy the perfect mentor.