Hamza Choudhury

[shen]

1 hour ago, bmt said:

This is fair, I do think that it is a spectrum though and depending on where he falls on that (ie did he have 2 pints which many people drive on) is important. 

 

I like Hamza but he definitely needs to grow up a bit

But he got charged for three transgressions, one of them being refusing to cooperate. This wasn't your standard 'oh I'm slightly above the limit' situation as I read it.

[Jon the Hat]

What a dickhead.  His employer has a right to expect him to work though, and with the shortage of players they made that call.  Once he is prosecuted / sentenced they can and no doubt will take disciplinary action.

[sylofox]

50 minutes ago, Bert said:

Surely they would have to have known about it. I’m pretty sure most employees are obliged to tell their employer if they’ve been arrested? Especially given that it’s gonna come out in the media anyway. 

Yes but did he tell them before the game if at all.

 

Not having a dig at you Bert.

 

But some on here having a go straight at Enzo and the club for playing him is ridiculous. None of us know if Enzo or the club had prior knowledge of his arrest. But straight away many are blaming both of them because he played on Monday.

 

Moan moan fvcking moan. Some of you must be a joy to live with.

[Mickyblueeyes]

One of the biggest problems this club has under this regime is an unprofessional culture. We went down last year due to it. Yes, there were a host of other things but an unprofessional set up was a major part of it. Owner, board, players, the lot. This is disgraceful, Choudhury should be suspended and out of the team. If the club knew and STILL played him, it’s unacceptable. 
 

if he is found guilty, he has to be out. There are standards that have to be set to encourage success. 
 

As for “oh but he Muslim they don’t drink”. Of course there are people of a Muslim background/persuasion who break the rules you dipsticks. Everyone’s human. It’s why asking everyone to answer for the actions of group just because they share a similar background is so insane.

Edited 24 January 2024 by Mickyblueeyes

[Balders65]

8 hours ago, LFox99 said:

Pretending he's some hero of social justice when he's put out racist tweets in the past, tweets mocking mental health issues, cheating on his missus.

Footballers tend to not be the smartest bunch but my word he's thick even for that standard. 

Think he’s just about reached the Kyle Walker level of Thickery 😂

[lgfualol]

What an absolute moron

[ARM1968]

IF found guilty I would come down hard on him. Standards have to be set. I like him as a player but there is no room for this for anyone. You can only expect professionalism if all aspects of your business are run professionally. 

[Hales]

The fact he refused the breatalyser says it all. He knew he was over the limit. He can more than afford a taxi or uber!

He isnt a kid. He is 26 and a father. Its about time he grew up.  

I doubt Enzo will take it lightly. There is no excuse for drink driving and its lucky he didnt hurt somebody.

He got in his care knowing he was drunk. No excuses whatsoever....

[bmt]

1 hour ago, shen said:

But he got charged for three transgressions, one of them being refusing to cooperate. This wasn't your standard 'oh I'm slightly above the limit' situation as I read it.

I agree unless he's marginally over the limit and thinks he's big braining it by giving a blood sample rather than a breath one. I know that's not how it works but some think it does

[PhillippaT]

39 minutes ago, ARM1968 said:

IF found guilty I would come down hard on him. Standards have to be set. I like him as a player but there is no room for this for anyone. You can only expect professionalism if all aspects of your business are run professionally. 

Definitely no longer the kind of twat we need in the team/squad 

Edited 24 January 2024 by PhillippaT

[Paninistickers]

I'm more concerned that the players all.live in Nottingham now. An unintended consequence of moving to seagrave! 

[Stevosevic]

He’s crap on the pitch too. 

[Daggers]

Anyone who drunk drives is a cvnt. The court will punish him. 
 

That’s the only important consideration. Lad should use it as a wake up call that he acts like a pr1ck and needs to sort out his priorities. 
 

People lose licenses not jobs from this offence. Demanding he’s sent to the reserves or made to train with kids is just kneejerk fvckery. 
 

If he uses a lawyer to introduce technicalities rather than accept judgement like a man on a guilty plea then he can royally go fvck himself and all bets are off - then I’d like to see him placed in a suspended cage outside the ground for ten years. No food, no water.  

[foxile5]

8 minutes ago, Daggers said:

People lose licenses not jobs from this offence.

I'm not advocating for him to lose his job but this much isn't precisely true.

 

For regular folk this kind of conviction absolutely can cost a job. Anyone in the driving trade right off the bat but a lot of public sector jobs have a little strapline in the contract about reputational damage and this is certainly the kind of conviction that can and has cost jobs. 

[Finnegan]

1 minute ago, foxile5 said:

I'm not advocating for him to lose his job but this much isn't precisely true.

 

For regular folk this kind of conviction absolutely can cost a job. Anyone in the driving trade right off the bat but a lot of public sector jobs have a little strapline in the contract about reputational damage and this is certainly the kind of conviction that can and has cost jobs. 

 

I work in the public sector. Couple years ago a tradesperson I know got shit faced and wrapped their car around a lamppost. Lost their licence. 

 

Their job involved constant daily driving of a van on their own. 

 

They just got partnered with someone else and doubled up in another van. That was it. 

 

Obviously if they'd done it on work time in their work van it would almost certainly have been a dismissal, probably likewise if they'd been in the work van on their own time actually. But in their own car on their own time? Apparently not our business. 

 

[Finnegan]

2 hours ago, Jon the Hat said:

Once he is prosecuted / sentenced they can and no doubt will take disciplinary action.

 

I mean he might get a token fine that'll mean nothing to him but that's probably all. We're not going to rip up the contract of an asset worth probably still eight figures in this market purely because of this incident. 

[Mickyblueeyes]

1 minute ago, Finnegan said:

 

I mean he might get a token fine that'll mean nothing to him but that's probably all. We're not going to rip up the contract of an asset worth probably still eight figures in this market purely because of this incident. 

You dont rip up a contract. You do however place him on the transfer list and actively work on selling that 8 figure asset. Our skills at selling quickly would probably mean he signs a renewal in years time though!

[Finnegan]

2 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

You dont rip up a contract. You do however place him on the transfer list and actively work on selling that 8 figure asset. Our skills at selling quickly would probably mean he signs a renewal in years time though!

 

He's fairly obviously not good enough for the Premier League, he'll be on the list to be replaced anyway. 

 

[Daggers]

24 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

I'm not advocating for him to lose his job but this much isn't precisely true.

 

For regular folk this kind of conviction absolutely can cost a job. Anyone in the driving trade right off the bat but a lot of public sector jobs have a little strapline in the contract about reputational damage and this is certainly the kind of conviction that can and has cost jobs. 

Clearly drivers lose their jobs because they lose the ability to drive.

 

I’m telling you as fact that teachers do not lose their posts.

[foxile5]

Just now, Daggers said:

Clearly drivers lose their jobs because they lose the ability to drive.

 

I’m telling you as fact that teachers do not lose their posts.

This wasn't a remark that deals with teachers exclusively - there are more public sector workers than the education sector.

 

But, fair enough, I suppose some teachers may not lose their jobs. Although, as far as I'm aware, they do have the strapline in contracts about reputational damage so that would be an objective call based on the morality/ethics of the head teacher. It certainly is a possibility. 

[filbertway]

21 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

He's fairly obviously not good enough for the Premier League, he'll be on the list to be replaced anyway. 

He's only just signed a 4 year contract.

 

Can't imagine he's going anywhere. Like Kingy he must be aware that nobody will pay him anything close to what we pay him and he'll happily sit on the bench or u21s taking the money.

[LCFCJohn]

3 hours ago, Pliskin said:

Drink driving has claimed the lives of many innocent people, destroying lives and families. Clubs need to take a firmer stance on incidence like this, it appears no one was hurt, but if you’re willing to sit behind the wheel of a car drunk, you’re willing to take the chance that you may recklessly seriously injure or kill someone. 
 

If he’s got an issue I’m all for the club helping him through it, but he probably shouldn’t be playing for the club again. You can’t be complicit in behaviour like this, not with this kind of profession.

I agree with this. A car, in the wrong hands, is a weapon that can kill, the same as a gun or knife. 
 

If someone was recklessly firing off a gun but was fortunate enough that nobody was hit, it doesn’t make it ok. Same with drunk/drug or other reckless driving (excessive speeding etc).

[Bert]

3 hours ago, sylofox said:

Yes but did he tell them before the game if at all.

 

Not having a dig at you Bert.

 

But some on here having a go straight at Enzo and the club for playing him is ridiculous. None of us know if Enzo or the club had prior knowledge of his arrest. But straight away many are blaming both of them because he played on Monday.

 

Moan moan fvcking moan. Some of you must be a joy to live with.

Oh I know mate, don’t worry. 
 

Even more of an idiot if he didn’t say anything. You’ve f’ed up, hold your hands up and be the bigger man. I hope that was the case anyway. 

[Chelmofox]

22 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

I agree with this. A car, in the wrong hands, is a weapon that can kill, the same as a gun or knife. 
 

If someone was recklessly firing off a gun but was fortunate enough that nobody was hit, it doesn’t make it ok. Same with drunk/drug or other reckless driving (excessive speeding etc).

I completely agree about the car, but what i will say is there is a lot of ignorance about what the limit actually is. I see people on match days getting in their cars after pre match and halftime pints, blissfully unaware that they are very likely over the limit. I bet those same people will think what Hamza has done is outrageous, not realising they are likely doing the same (note, i have no idea if Hamza was smashed or a little over the limit). I was astonished to find out a few months back that a client I had a few beers with drove home (i though he used the train). 

 

It does boggle my mind why someone who earns more in a week that most do in a year why they would put themselves in that position. Uber isnt even lose change.

Edited 24 January 2024 by Chelmofox

[Guest Lako42]

3 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

I completely agree about the car, but what i will say is there is a lot of ignorance about what the limit actually is. I see people on match days getting in their cars after pre match and halftime pints, blissfully unaware that they are very likely over the limit.

Oh they know, don't be naive