Enzo Maresca frustration boils over as he says 'moment there's doubt about the idea, I will leave'

[5waller5]

16 hours ago, Itsthejoeker said:

It’s happening with everything these days, people like to draw these all encompassing Ven diagrams where if you think some of our performances haven’t been great, you must also hate Enzo, love Rudkin, punched people who disliked Rodgers, use clap banners, be over 70, travel to away games in coach one etc etc etc. 

 

This forum is getting horribly tribal of late. 

Indicative of the world unfortunately. Everything in life is becoming binary / tribal / opinionated. Conversation and respect for alternative opinion on the decline

[NaijaFox]

16 hours ago, Itsthejoeker said:

It’s happening with everything these days, people like to draw these all encompassing Ven diagrams where if you think some of our performances haven’t been great, you must also hate Enzo, love Rudkin, punched people who disliked Rodgers, use clap banners, be over 70, travel to away games in coach one etc etc etc. 

 

This forum is getting horribly tribal of late. 

I belong to what’s known as Gen Z but 100% agree with you.

 

Sometimes, different is just that - different! Not necessarily better (or worse). Intelligent life preceded Football Manager, YouTube and Social Media.

[Chrysalis]

1 hour ago, mozartfox said:

The away support has been fantastic.  These fans are hard core Foxes Fanatics and deserve considerable credit.  Looking at the results this season both home and away, you would expect the majority attendees at the KP to be really happy , BUT this is not the case.

 

May be some need transfer their allegiance to Manchester City ?  as this season is all about undoing the Fvck-ups created by the Rudkin-Rodgers. Unfortunately the Financial conundrum and the clearing out the dead-wood is going take another year or so.

 

Get behind the Team!

I still remember the away fans not getting behind smith and singing we lost the ball whenever we didnt have it.   So they not innocent.

[Lionator]

7 minutes ago, Chrysalis said:

I still remember the away fans not getting behind smith and singing we lost the ball whenever we didnt have it.   So they not innocent.

It would’ve been hard to be positive in that Fulham game

[Pliskin]

12 hours ago, bovril said:

I was going to write something similar to worth the wait above.

 

People are conflating two things I think. I really don't know loads about modern football. I'd struggle to tell you the Liverpool first XI. I enjoy the posts about tactics on here because I know little about that side of the game. I find the style of football these days more boring than Pearson's team, and I won't ever think of this team like I do the 96-2000 or 13-16 team. I have to admit to loving a "Vardy cameo" as someone above put it. But when I go and try and be vocal and I don't leave early if we're winning. I don't constantly slag off or even shout abuse at our own players when we're top of the league, which, unbelievably. I've heard some of our fans do this season. 

 

There are lots of factors at play here - our bowl stadium, the recent history of the club, the shit match day experience that the club has created, the Leicestershire mentality, the fact it's a one club county. It really has much less to do with appreciating the tactics as some fans or Maresca thinks - if he actually does think that which to be honest we can't tell from this pretty cryptic interview. 

Another good point, our match day experience is dreadful, it’s like a lame version of Disney land sometimes! 

[Chrysalis]

23 minutes ago, Lionator said:

It would’ve been hard to be positive in that Fulham game

Hard or not, need to be consistent with the point made.

[Wolfox]

A lot of deeply patronising posts getting a lot of support on here…. 

[mozartfox]

1 hour ago, Chrysalis said:

I still remember the away fans not getting behind smith and singing we lost the ball whenever we didnt have it.   So they not innocent.

That game was a total shite show with Players not respecting the shirt.   

[Chrysalis]

1 hour ago, mozartfox said:

That game was a total shite show with Players not respecting the shirt.   

I think you dont understand the point I am making.

 

If you going to moan about moaners, you cant excuse other moaners, because then you are being selective of your treatment and are showing a clear bias.

 

You either want fans to back the team or you dont.

 

Because anyone who says its ok to moan about Smith's team but not Enzo (or Rodgers before it was obvious we was doomed), is just showing double standards.

 

It translates to, its ok to moan if I dont like what I see but you not allowed to moan when I am liking what I see.

 

I dont think I could ever bring myself to sing or cheer whenever my own team loses the ball, to witness that was something else.  I could see at the time it clearly affected the players as soon as it started.

Edited 5 February by Chrysalis

[mozartfox]

2 minutes ago, Chrysalis said:

I think you dont understand the point I am making.

 

If you going to moan about moaners, you cant excuse other moaners, because then you are being selective of your treatment and are showing a clear bias.

 

You either want fans to back the team or you dont.

 

Because anyone who says its ok to moan about Smith's team but not Enzo (or Rodgers before it was obvious we was doomed), is just showing double standards.

 

It translates to, its ok to moan if I dont like what I see but you not allowed to moan when I am liking what I see.

 

There is people who have not enjoyed football under Enzo for one reason or another, to those people, its the same as that Fulham games was for you, and your post suggests you dont respect that.

 

What my post actually said was the away support this Season appears to be very positive. Whereas at home no so - this despite the results.  The Fulham game and Smith was introduced into this by yourself and is irrelevant in the scheme of things.  I do not recall actually referencing it was ok to get onto Smiths back?

 

Frankly speaking, people are indeed entirely free to moan about what they want and they continue to do so whatever you and I think. My point was get on to the Players and Enzo's back during home games seems a little strange given where we currently stand in the League Table.   We are not going to get out of this League beautiful football although the Stoke game was very pleasing on the eye. So if fans are expecting this, then may Manchester City is a better option.

[Chrysalis]

1 minute ago, mozartfox said:

 

What my post actually said was the away support this Season appears to be very positive. Whereas at home no so - this despite the results.  The Fulham game and Smith was introduced into this by yourself and is irrelevant in the scheme of things.  I do not recall actually referencing it was ok to get onto Smiths back?

 

Frankly speaking, people are indeed entirely free to moan about what they want and they continue to do so whatever you and I think. My point was get on to the Players and Enzo's back during home games seems a little strange given where we currently stand in the League Table.   We are not going to get out of this League beautiful football although the Stoke game was very pleasing on the eye. So if fans are expecting this, then may Manchester City is a better option.

Well yeah, I did actually agree we shouldnt be moaning in the ground and instead supporting the team.  My issue was just about demonising those fans.

 

My opinion is when it comes to supporting the team, positive singing and so on, we should do winning or losing.  Any type of protest would only ever be aimed if there is dissatisfaction with the manager or the directors of the club, but never the actual players.  However I think there is no merit in booing/shouting or whatever at Enzo at games currently, we are top with a nice margin, if I am unhappy about a performance or something, its made on foxes talk.

[koop.]

On 31/01/2024 at 09:44, adejo92 said:

Agree with him to some extent, but baring in mind the squad he has, and the standard of opposition in comparison,  let's not pretend he's worked miracles.

You're full of shit aren't you...enough said 

[koop.]

Some of our fan base are a total joke tbh, always have been, probably always will be 

[Daggers]

9 hours ago, ozleicester said:

Im not having a go, as everyone is entitled to enjoy their support however they wish.

But the Im a tactics knowitall, Ive played FIFA and Football Manager concept is a funny one to me.

I play 4D chess

[bmt]

1 minute ago, Daggers said:

I play 4D chess

You're missing out...

 

 

[Daggers]

Just now, bmt said:

You're missing out...

 

 

That’s for poseurs

[Finnegan]

20 hours ago, Itsthejoeker said:

This forum is getting horribly tribal of late

 

 

[bmt]

Just now, Daggers said:

That’s for poseurs

I'm sure Enzo did his dissertation on football and chess and multiverse time travel or something similar...

[Mr Weller 2]

It’s excruciating reading posts on this thread since Saturday as the critics do somersaults in their efforts to justify their comments earlier in the thread.

 

Just admit it. You got it wrong and you’re feeling a bit embarrassed.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Seems the fanbase really nailed it's colours to the mast on Saturday in terms of backing Enzo over Rudkin etc. Great to see and hopefully more to come Saturday.

Edited 5 February by Sol thewall Bamba

[coolhandfox]

There is nothing wrong with enjoying one style of football over the other. 

 

The beauty of football is contrasting styles, whether that be the Wimbledon Crazy gang, Pep's controlled football, Klopps Heavy Metal football or Tony Pulis Stoke on a cold Monday night.

 

Your level of knowledge give you no right to be critical of someone preference, just because I've got my coaching badges doesn't mean I can tell causal Carl he's wrong about what he enjoys.

 

Let just get behind Enzo and the boys, and make some noise.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 5 February by coolhandfox

[volpeazzurro]

4 hours ago, Pliskin said:

Another good point, our match day experience is dreadful, it’s like a lame version of Disney land sometimes! 

I suppose that's another issue that's purely a matter of opinion. What you think is 'dreadful' others may think is a 'great day out'. Age and previous personal history comes into it I suppose but I do think some people seem to think that 'their' way is the right way and should be adopted by the masses in order to be considered a 'proper' supporter.

 

Personally speaking I don't go for the match day 'experience', I just go to watch the football. I make certain personal choices I suppose like others along the way, like get there at a particular time suitable to me, don't buy any food and drink because I personally think it's a rip off and slow, but I appreciate that there may be those that like it and good luck to them. I take my own supplies in.

 

I have banter and conversation with those around me that have been there some time, it's always good to see them. I  don't mind the clappers, some hate them. I sing occasionally but not all the while but absolutely don't care whether other people do or don't. A lot of my reactions tend to occur depending what's happening on the pitch if I'm to be absolutely honest.

I  usually stay until the end and clap the players off but don't care about the one's that leave early, it's their choice  ... as long as they just go and don't just stand there in no-mans land blocking my view!

 

We're all different as are our individual tastes. Buying loads of merchandise, drinking club beer before a game, waving flags or continually singing throughout the game in a singing section doesn't make anyone the 'better' supporter'. A lot of the time a good 'match day experience' is down to the mindset of the supporter and the effort they put in to enjoying it. If the players play crap and lose badly then that will always put a dent in the experience anyway 🤣. 

 

 

[ozleicester]

43 minutes ago, Daggers said:

I play 4D chess

take the queen take the queen... too slow

[volpeazzurro]

16 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Seems the fanbase really nailed it's colours to the mast on Saturday in terms of backing Enzo over Rudkin etc. Great to see and hopefully more to come Saturday.

I saw it as backing Enzo but I don't think Rudkin comes into it. For all we know, Enzo is possibly fully aware of why nobody was signed and, although perhaps disappointed, accepts the reasons why. Nobody knows any different. 

[Daggers]

6 minutes ago, ozleicester said:

take the queen take the queen... too slow

Is what I wanted you to think.