Cooper - OUT

[Wymsey]

22 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Obviously. Absolutely terrible appointment.

 

Most knew that this season would be a tough one, though.

To be fair, he keeps us up this season, then job done.

 

 

Then, in the Summer, Top might tell him to kindly move on; as they have a higher-calibre manager in place, ready for the club's next target.

 

 

Actually can see Top thinking about next season manager-wise already in January/February, if we're pretty clear of the bottom-end.

 

Don't think he's as stupid as some think he is.

[Royston.]

2 hours ago, lcfcbluearmy said:

Maybe if the people that kept complaining about the fans not "finding their voice" or being "happy clappers" turned up to a game and expressed there discontent others would join in and things would change.

 

But it's easier to moan on here isn't it

certainly cheaper than ticket, travel and food all the the sake of having a direct moan

[winteriscoming]

7 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Most knew that this season would be a tough one, though.

To be fair, he keeps us up this season, then job done.

 

 

Then, in the Summer, Top might tell him to kindly move on; as they have a higher-calibre manager in place, ready for the club's next target.

 

 

Actually can see Top thinking about next season manager-wise already in January/February, if we're pretty clear of the bottom-end.

 

Don't think he's as stupid as some think he is.

If he’s thinking Jan Feb time he’s not that clever because we’ll be adrift by that time with this clown in charge. Get rid asap. 

[Gamble92]

17 hours ago, Gazza M said:

I think it is easy to fall in to the trap of of thinking we are back 2 years ago with a reputation to lose and we are massively under performing. 

This squad still managed to lose 11 times last season at Championship level. 

We are back in the big time, but with no real expectation other than to survive. The other two promoted teams showing how hard it is. 

Cooper as weak as he is so far has at least kept us above 3 other teams. Until that changes he ain't going. Just get on and deal with it. 

The issue isn't how many points we have but how we have got them. I was all for Cooper and still supportive of him even up until recently, but you cannot just blindly say because of the points tally he should stay when all the stats and performances show we are lucky to even have that many. 

 

I even think he would have a decent amount of support if the majority of performances had been bad but you could see what he was working towards. The bar is pretty low and our fans on the whole are quite patient. 

 

I don't think it's a case of delusions of grandeur at all. In the main we are all pretty accepting of where we are now as a club. Probably too accepting. 

Edited 15 November 2024 by Gamble92

[FosseSpark]

is he out yet?

[Tuna]

Never mind...

Edited 14 November 2024 by Tuna

[murphy]

1 hour ago, Wymsey said:

Most knew that this season would be a tough one, though.

To be fair, he keeps us up this season, then job done.

 

 

Then, in the Summer, Top might tell him to kindly move on; as they have a higher-calibre manager in place, ready for the club's next target.

 

 

Actually can see Top thinking about next season manager-wise already in January/February, if we're pretty clear of the bottom-end.

 

Don't think he's as stupid as some think he is.

Wouldn't it be more clever to get a higher calibre manager in the first place? 

[cruzFOX]

The writing is being scribbled on the wall. One more calamitous loss and cooper should be gone. This group of players are not premier league elite but they’re not that shite either. We need a manager who knows what he’s doing and can inject so confidence, belief, motivation and direction into this team asap.

Edited 15 November 2024 by cruzFOX

[fox_favourite]

5 hours ago, Wymsey said:

Most knew that this season would be a tough one, though.

To be fair, he keeps us up this season, then job done.

 

 

Then, in the Summer, Top might tell him to kindly move on; as they have a higher-calibre manager in place, ready for the club's next target.

 

 

Actually can see Top thinking about next season manager-wise already in January/February, if we're pretty clear of the bottom-end.

 

Don't think he's as stupid as some think he is.

I completely get where you're coming from, but I think Cooper will fully lose the dressing room before then if not already. if top does wait till the end of the season, it will already be too late. The players are struggling with his lack of tactics and direction that is clear to see. Evidence is how many times they run into each other or caught out of position. 

 

End of the season maybe too late and that is the mistake they made with Rodgers. Blind faith until it was too late to react, and this scenario will be the same I feel. Only this time the EFL will throw the book at us. Is that a gamble worth taking?

 

I keep referring to it, but if this does happen what did they learn in their end of season 'review' when we went down?

Edited 15 November 2024 by fox_favourite

[Sly]

2 minutes ago, fox_favourite said:

I completely get where you're coming from, but I think Cooper will fully lose the dressing room before then if not already. if top does wait till the end of the season, it will already be too late. The players are struggling with his lack of tactics and direction that is clear to see. Evidence is how many times they run into each other or caught out of position. 

 

End of the season maybe too late and that is the mistake they made with Rodgers. Blind faith until it was too late to react, and this scenario will be the same I feel. Only this time the EFL will throw the book at us. Is that a gamble worth taking?

I think it’ll be early January personally. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

I honestly believe if Chelsea beat us the pressure will really be on Cooper going into the West Ham game as it will be 5 without a win and slipping ever closer to the bottom 3, would be interesting if there is a clause that if we go into the bottom 3 after so many games have been played then if he does get sacked it’s a greatly reduced pay off……..

[Mickyblueeyes]

8 hours ago, Wymsey said:

Most knew that this season would be a tough one, though.

To be fair, he keeps us up this season, then job done.

 

 

Then, in the Summer, Top might tell him to kindly move on; as they have a higher-calibre manager in place, ready for the club's next target.

 

 

Actually can see Top thinking about next season manager-wise already in January/February, if we're pretty clear of the bottom-end.

 

Don't think he's as stupid as some think he is.

In 22/23, there were multiple reports the board had this opinion we “would be fine”. And all we had to do was get through the season and sort in the summer. We ended up getting relegated with arguably one of the strongest squads ever and definitely the 7th highest wage bill in the squad. 
 

If Top actually thinks he can wing it to survival again and “sort in the summer” (and don’t know if he does). Then he is an even bigger ****ing idiot than I thought. 

[Gazza3]

Just get on with it .  Shows again how useless our chairman and DOF are. Can't see the obvious even though it's staring them in the face. I wonder if there's a clause to sack him if we re in the bottom 3 and it's cheaper.  I despair with this club . How far we have fallen due to mismanagement 

[winteriscoming]

So that’s another week wasted. 
As stated earlier we are so reactive instead of being pro active as a club. Should have been speaking to available managers this week instead this clown will be here for the Chelsea game. 

[Happy Fox]

36 minutes ago, Gazza3 said:

Just get on with it .  Shows again how useless our chairman and DOF are. Can't see the obvious even though it's staring them in the face. I wonder if there's a clause to sack him if we re in the bottom 3 and it's cheaper.  I despair with this club . How far we have fallen due to mismanagement 

 

Unless we paid Cooper top dollar, which seems very unlikely! I cannot imagine it will be too expensive to pay him off. Just get rid of him because he will take us down there is no question in my mind that's what's going to happen.

[DezFox]

9 hours ago, Wymsey said:

Most knew that this season would be a tough one, though.

To be fair, he keeps us up this season, then job done.

 

 

Then, in the Summer, Top might tell him to kindly move on; as they have a higher-calibre manager in place, ready for the club's next target.

 

 

Actually can see Top thinking about next season manager-wise already in January/February, if we're pretty clear of the bottom-end.

 

Don't think he's as stupid as some think he is.

Sorry but on what planet are we going to be pretty clear of bottom to plan for future. This suggests that Cooper is just going start winning loads of game and completely change everything he is doing? 

[CosbehFox]

I’ve said this before. The club got a lot of stick in football circles for sacking Ranieri when they did. They didn’t like the criticism off the media nor agents when they were asking about replacements. 
 

Hence they will hold on with any manager until the very end. There is no one who thinks away from the norm at LcFC Towers 

Edited 15 November 2024 by CosbehFox

[Fox92]

11 hours ago, Wymsey said:

Most knew that this season would be a tough one, though.

To be fair, he keeps us up this season, then job done.

 

 

Then, in the Summer, Top might tell him to kindly move on; as they have a higher-calibre manager in place, ready for the club's next target.

 

 

Actually can see Top thinking about next season manager-wise already in January/February, if we're pretty clear of the bottom-end.

 

Don't think he's as stupid as some think he is.

I'm yet to see evidence of backing this up though.

 

We went from a club finishing top 10 to relegation within a year.

[Wymsey]

10 hours ago, murphy said:

Wouldn't it be more clever to get a higher calibre manager in the first place? 

Of course, but who - those classified as a higher-calibre manager - would've wanted a newly-promoted side, though?

[Happy Fox]

20 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Of course, but who - those classified as a higher-calibre manager - would've wanted a newly-promoted side, though?

 

We were hardly a newly promoted side in the sense that we were a long term championship club and got promoted and so would not be able to attract a half decent manager, we were a top 5 premier league side a couple of seasons ago, on paper we could have appointed a better calibre manager than Cooper, and that's not arrogant to suggest otherwise. 

Edited 15 November 2024 by Happy Fox

[Dusty]

10 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

 

We were hardly a newly promoted side in the sense that we were a long term championship club and got promoted and so would not be able to attract a half decent manager, we were a top 5 premier league side a couple of seasons ago, on paper we could have appointed a better calibre manager than Cooper, and that's not arrogant to suggest otherwise. 

The possible points deduction would have played a part too, as well as the clear financial problems at the club over the last few years. Top that off with one of your best players leaving - it wasn’t the most appealing job.

[Happy Fox]

Just now, Dusty said:

The possible points deduction would have played a part too, as well as the clear financial problems at the club over the last few years. Top that off with one of your best players leaving - it wasn’t the most appealing job.

 

True, but we still could have appointed a better manager than Cooper, or should I say a manager that has the same playing style that the players are used to..

[filbertway]

14 hours ago, lcfcbluearmy said:

Maybe if the people that kept complaining about the fans not "finding their voice" or being "happy clappers" turned up to a game and expressed there discontent others would join in and things would change.

 

But it's easier to moan on here isn't it

I think the general rule is that if you express any discontent at the ground you get swore at and spat at.

[winteriscoming]

1 hour ago, Wymsey said:

Of course, but who - those classified as a higher-calibre manager - would've wanted a newly-promoted side, though?

Even though we’re newly promoted I still think we should have looked abroad. 
Diego Martinez imo would have been an option who was readily available and has stated he wanted to manage in England. Recently took over at Las Palmas and won 4 of his first 5 games. 
Has a decent track record and someone we should have tried to get. A similar appointment to Araolo at Bournemouth. 

[FLAN]

5 hours ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

I honestly believe if Chelsea beat us the pressure will really be on Cooper going into the West Ham game as it will be 5 without a win and slipping ever closer to the bottom 3, would be interesting if there is a clause that if we go into the bottom 3 after so many games have been played then if he does get sacked it’s a greatly reduced pay off……..

Unlikely given we expected a points deduction?