Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[adejo92]

45 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Yea it was Coopers coaching staff..

 

a gk coach who ? 

 

After 1 game he realized he wasn't up to scratch surely that's a good thing ?

Never realised Justin, Coady, Faes, BDR, Ayew & Soumare weren't upto scratch and continues to play them.

 

I think it was the sheer levels of toxic abuse that ensured Ward didnt play again. If there wasn't fan backlash, im convinced hes still be in goal for us now.

 

RVN is incompetent in every way as a manager.

[Gubbins]

1 hour ago, whoareyaaa said:

I can see where you are coming from, I'd agree on most points... just think the additions of Brain Murphy and King along with Ruud we would have a good chance of getting promoted.

 

He has been here 6 months has more knowledge of the squad and whats req.

 

It would be nice of him to interact with the fans at Ipswitch if he wants to stay though... I think he has the authority for sure, maybe he was playing it safe with selections I dunno... could be a different story next year though.

 

I think its harsh to judge him after 6 months esp after what he was brought into 

Murphy and king were brought in a couple of months ago and we remain utter shit. They've made no noticeable difference. 

He was brought into a bad situation where really he should have only been able to make improvements but as has been shown ad nauseum he, against all odds, made us considerably worse. Es that bad. It's utterly mad that a win against the 2nd worse Prem team ever, a single commendable result against a fading Notts Forest and the fact he's realised that Winks and Vestergaard are c***s has people prepared to give him time next season. He's got to go. We have to stop rewarding failures.

[Mickyblueeyes]

Jesus. Still some thinking this guy might come good next season. What do they see. Fair enough he couldn’t buy anyone worthwhile in Jan. Noted we have utter shite. However, what has he done. Hasn’t improved one position. No sign of some organisation. No reduction in shots face. No example of good/decent man management. Leadership ? Nope. Nothing. 
 

Even with a shit squad, there has to be something to throw your hat on. There isn’t. 

[Realist Guy In The Room]

Simply has to stay.

[Dr The Singh]

5 minutes ago, Realist Guy In The Room said:

Simply has to stay.

You are defo the realistic guy in the loo

[Dr The Singh]

13 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Jesus. Still some thinking this guy might come good next season. What do they see. Fair enough he couldn’t buy anyone worthwhile in Jan. Noted we have utter shite. However, what has he done. Hasn’t improved one position. No sign of some organisation. No reduction in shots face. No example of good/decent man management. Leadership ? Nope. Nothing. 
 

Even with a shit squad, there has to be something to throw your hat on. There isn’t. 

Yes please

[foxfanazer]

10 minutes ago, Realist Guy In The Room said:

Simply has to stay.

Away from the club. I agree

[Raj]

Spoke to a neighbour who is RUUD in.

Reckons he hasn't had a transfer window to get his own players in, has been dumped with the calibre of players at the club at the moment, reckons Ruud will have loads of contacts in PSv etc who he can tap up etc...

 

Needless to say i called him a fecking idiot who needs to take his arse out his head and realise Ruud is just as shit as Top and Rudkin.

[SafewayFox]

6 minutes ago, Raj said:

Spoke to a neighbour who is RUUD in.

Reckons he hasn't had a transfer window to get his own players in, has been dumped with the calibre of players at the club at the moment, reckons Ruud will have loads of contacts in PSv etc who he can tap up etc...

 

Needless to say i called him a fecking idiot who needs to take his arse out his head and realise Ruud is just as shit as Top and Rudkin.

I’m genuinely surprised that people have any positivity about Ruud to stay.

 

I can’t shake that people have given him a “free pass” because of him dumping Winks and Jannik out, with us all despising 95% of the squad.

 

He has proven zero managerial credentials and as others have said his lack of care for our fans compared to opposing players is one of my biggest bug bares on top of our various unwanted records.

[FrankieADZ]

pretty sure more would be for him to stay if he actually stayed true to what he has said in press conferences

"build for the future"

if you are going to do that then, then dont play the sodding players who have been gash all season/wont be here next season,

 

give the youth a chance

but no, still picking the same old same old

[fox_favourite]

3 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

pretty sure more would be for him to stay if he actually stayed true to what he has said in press conferences

"build for the future"

if you are going to do that then, then dont play the sodding players who have been gash all season/wont be here next season,

 

give the youth a chance

but no, still picking the same old same old

Keep picking Faes over Okoli is one that gets me. Okoli showed passion and desire to defend. Faes just spends most of his time throwing his arms around when it's his fault. I can't stand him! 

 

Playing pass back at any cost Ayew is another. Play someone who can go forward, can attack and someone who doesn't look like he's playing Sunday league and had a heavy night. 

 

To me, yes he hasn't been helped by the board, but he hasn't helped himself. Like your comment on "build for the future". Prove it. 

[Chown]

23 hours ago, JimJams said:

They have almost the same number of points from the games involving the same teams.

Cooper win against Saints, draw with Spurs, Palace and Everton, loss to Forest. 6 points.

RvN wins against Spurs, Saints, draw against Forest, loss to Everton and Palace. 7 points.

 

RvN's win against West Ham and draws vs Brighton are void for comparison because  Cooper didn't play them.

Coopers additional 4 points came from Ipswich and Bournemouth who Ruud has yet to face.

 

So in terms of the only real stat that means anything, points, there's still 2 games for Ruud to fall 3 short of Cooper or go 3 better.

 

However the fact that Cooper inherited a squad on a positive trajectory, had a full preseason, had a full transfer window with decent money spent, had a fully fit squad to choose from and basically didn't do any better than Ruud with all of those advantages over him just goes to show how truly shit Cooper was.

 

They're both wank.  But the revisionism is mental.

The classic ‘you can only compare the games against the same teams’ nonsense . Which obviously avoids the weeks and weeks of no goals and terrible records set by RvN that will never be broken. RvN managed against Newcastle twice. 7-0 aggregate defeat. RvN managed against Wolves twice. 6-0 aggregate defeat. Brentford at home 4-0 defeat. Cooper lost one league game in 12 by a 3-0 score line and we scored in every single other league game under him.

 

By your logic, Plymouth had a better season than Liverpool. You can’t compare any of their results as they played against different teams. But Plymouth beat Liverpool in the cup so they must be better. Nonsense.

 

They is no revisionism. Just stats like points per game, goals scored, goals against etc.

[CosbehFox]

Cooper would have been buried six feet under by these players. He’d lost them as the Copenhagen scenes told you. 

[CosbehFox]

Btw there’s a scenario where your DoF does his actual ****ing job and works out the bad egg stuff that Ruud has done. Then shapes the squad accordingly. While at the same time, you get rid of Ruud and bring in someone that you’ve admired, fetched references for and think he can share your vision. 
 

I am at the point where I’m convinced Top and Rudkin think the manager should control everything and this likely influenced by Pearson because he liked the autonomy of everything. It doesn’t recognise Steve Walsh role and let’s face that error was on Vichai. The bloke lived in Leics and we could have made him the thread to shape everything. 

Now that’s 15 years ago and time has moved forward in how clubs are organised. Top doesn’t have the knowledge nor the business nous. Rudkin doesn’t have the knowledge at that level or he hides that from Top while avoiding responsibility. I’ve been told he’s like a filter in anything going to the chairman. Everything on the footballing side through him. On the last relegation, that wasn’t lessened rather a double down
 

We can talk about Ruud until we are blue in the face but it’s at the top again. 
 

If we say to ourselves, if Ruud was a head coach only and we are viewing him on his decision making/tactics only then he’s not been good enough. The for argument to keep him is being held that he MIGHT come good because he gets to shape the squad and bring his players but that shouldn’t be his role. 

Edited 15 May 2025 by CosbehFox

[foxinsocks]

1 hour ago, CosbehFox said:

Btw there’s a scenario where your DoF does his actual ****ing job and works out the bad egg stuff that Ruud has done. Then shapes the squad accordingly. While at the same time, you get rid of Ruud and bring in someone that you’ve admired, fetched references for and think he can share your vision. 
 

I am at the point where I’m convinced Top and Rudkin think the manager should control everything and this likely influenced by Pearson because he liked the autonomy of everything. It doesn’t recognise Steve Walsh role and let’s face that error was on Vichai. The bloke lived in Leics and we could have made him the thread to shape everything. 

Now that’s 15 years ago and time has moved forward in how clubs are organised. Top doesn’t have the knowledge nor the business nous. Rudkin doesn’t have the knowledge at that level or he hides that from Top while avoiding responsibility. I’ve been told he’s like a filter in anything going to the chairman. Everything on the footballing side through him. On the last relegation, that wasn’t lessened rather a double down
 

We can talk about Ruud until we are blue in the face but it’s at the top again. 
 

If we say to ourselves, if Ruud was a head coach only and we are viewing him on his decision making/tactics only then he’s not been good enough. The for argument to keep him is being held that he MIGHT come good because he gets to shape the squad and bring his players but that shouldn’t be his role. 

I have no idea if ruud could be good or bad.  I will say he has not made the best of what he found here... but with his own lore he might be better.   No idea.

[RonnieTodger]

Extraordinary that Ruud could survive that run with the fans.

 

Two games without defeat are enough to make people forget that?

 

I’m a slight hypocrite because I can’t bring myself to hate him, no matter how bad he has been. 
 

I really wanted it to work for him, but he is out of his depth.

[Dmitry]

May I remind the optimists and RVN revisionists that he put Danny in the goal against the Wolves…that alone is  enough to diagnose him as a terminal clueless dunce.

 

[markko]

5 hours ago, RonnieTodger said:

Extraordinary that Ruud could survive that run with the fans.

 

Two games without defeat are enough to make people forget that?

 

I’m a slight hypocrite because I can’t bring myself to hate him, no matter how bad he has been. 
 

I really wanted it to work for him, but he is out of his depth.

He surely cannot survive. He has been absolutely pitiful. Nothing about him makes me want to get behind him. We need big change otherwise we will get more of the same. Rudkin out first. Replace him and then appoint a new coach. I hope they have been planning and searching as relegation has been nailed on for months. The rats can all leave and then we can rebuild. It is not going to be easy to shift some of the players but aI would only retain those that want to be here. 

[whoareyaaa]

9 hours ago, Dmitry said:

May I remind the optimists and RVN revisionists that he put Danny in the goal against the Wolves…that alone is  enough to diagnose him as a terminal clueless dunce.

 

Only for one game then dropped him after realising how shit he was, Rodger’s played him all season 

[VLC86]

9 hours ago, Dmitry said:

May I remind the optimists and RVN revisionists that he put Danny in the goal against the Wolves…that alone is  enough to diagnose him as a terminal clueless dunce.

 

100% the inexcusable moment I completely lost faith in him, and the leadership of the club.

[Foxin_Mad]

9 hours ago, Dmitry said:

May I remind the optimists and RVN revisionists that he put Danny in the goal against the Wolves…that alone is  enough to diagnose him as a terminal clueless dunce.

 

May I remind the LCFC revisionists that whilst the DOF and clueless owner remain, we are likely to end up with someone equally clueless who we need to sack in 6 months. We are becoming the new Watford/Hull/Stoke how exciting! 

[Bluearmyfox28]

I have an awful feeling they are going to stick with him if they beat Ipswich on Sunday.

[Gazza M]

9 games in a row at home without a goal is sackable alone. This board will be swayed by results when no pressure on like they did at end of 21-22 when Rodgers did the same. No lessons learnt. 

Edited 16 May 2025 by Gazza M

[Unabomber]

I reckon he would do alright for us in the champ

[CrispinLA in Texas]

26 minutes ago, Unabomber said:

I reckon he would do alright for us in the champ

okay.....😶