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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

It may not be but I actually think most of the reactions and posts are aimed at the terrible treatment of the staff and the impact this may have on their and their families Christmas. 

Fair enough absolutely not trying to defend that. Its poor from both My input was more to say we might not necessarily be going the way of Sheffield Wednesday which has been suggested! 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said:

Fair enough absolutely not trying to defend that. Its poor from both My input was more to say we might not necessarily be going the way of Sheffield Wednesday which has been suggested! 

In which case it won’t be difficult to move a bit of cash around and change the payment date back to Monday (and admit publicly that it was an error and apologise for any distress caused to staff) 

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm not a KP defender at all but I am someone who once worked in a payroll department. This could just be an admin error and nothing more sinister.

 

Payroll software can be complicated. I used to work for a company that payrolled over 100 different payrolls a month and I saw a situation worse than this. Someone will have had to go in and manually change the pay dates on the system. If you forget it's a special month it can be easy to miss as it's rare, but there should be controls in place to prevent it. Where I worked two people missed that it was set to a bank holiday and so did the supervisor who authorised it. All the paperwork had the correct dates. But on the system it was still set to the last weekday of the month which happened to be a bank holiday. If someone has run the payroll and submitted the BACS Transfer with the incorrect date it's not so easy to recall it without paying costs - it's probably thousands of individual payments that have gone in bulk.

 

It's so poor to just give people a days notice at this time of year. As shambolically run as we are I just don't understand why they'd do that if this was planned. But then nothing would surprise me with these clowns.

 

 

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You give staff a nice benefit, you get absolutely caned if you then reverse it one day. They certainly forget the good they were doing in the first place. It’s best not giving the gesture in the first place. 

 

If I was to reverse this though, I’d have communicated it months ago  so staff knew what they would be facing. This has been their real error which is naughty. 
 

I’m not sure paying staff on 19th of any month when they usually get paid at the end of the month is very wise either. It then becomes a case of people spending too much and suffering big time in January. Maybe it was seen as a nice gesture, but not sure it’s really helpful in reality 
 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Happy Fox said:

 

They probably would have been informed earlier this month re the 19th, and then subsequently yesterday informed them that they are changing the payment date.

Was informed late last night

Posted
26 minutes ago, The_77 said:

But they were told they were getting paid early this month (as reported by media outlets and confirmed by others on this thread). 
 

As asked by another in this thread, why would you possibly look for angles on behalf of the owner instead of advocating for community members who are just trying to scrape together a decent Christmas for their families? 

Pretty sure I’ve retracted my comments once understanding they were told they’re getting paid earlier. 
 

If they were communicated being paid on the 19th and then changed last minute then this is terrible by the club. 

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Posted
Just now, Stevosevic said:

Pretty sure I’ve retracted my comments once understanding they were told they’re getting paid earlier. 
 

If they were communicated being paid on the 19th and then changed last minute then this is terrible by the club. 

My apologies. Sorry, I missed that. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Happy Fox said:

 

Exactly mate it's in breach of employment law, staff by their contract would know their pay dates for the year, so to drop this news is abhorrent really.

Unless they’ve had it in writing that their pay date was for before Christmas, then it isn’t. 

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ANY defence of this is laughable. It would be terrible if it was a small local firm let alone a football club that were paying Ryan Betrand a weekly wage that that probably covers a good chunk of the 'regular' staff's payroll lol

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Posted
50 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Crazy to defend a duty free company from the other side of the world over normal people from your own city. Noted!

This is the big one. How much of a bad person do you have to be for your first thought to be to defend a billionaire in Thailand instead of those in your own city. 

 

Those people need to seek help. 

Posted
51 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said:

Not to stick up for the club but I work for a ftse 100 company making record profit who have done something very similar this year. We normally get paid 24th in December but found out yesterday it's going to be the end of the month as normal. 

 

City doing it Could be the sign of something deeper especially with other things like lack of signings etc but it also could be an innocuous accounting thing which is what I hope it is at my work. 

 

 

I think it’s poor practice for any company to change payment dates on something that has previously been agreed, and to do it such late notice no matter how big or small the company 

 

Top only made a PR statement a few weeks back about rebuilding and respect is apparently a big thing for him too, for him to do it is appalling. I think what makes it even worse, is the highest earners have no effect on this matter. It’s bad if it’s an across the board decision but to divide as to who is and isn’t getting paid on an agreed set date is a disgrace and shows no respect or empathy towards the staff especially considering the time of the year 

Posted
2 hours ago, gazzaa2 said:

The next Sheffield Wednesday under these clowns. We're in trouble when the parachute money runs out (if out the top flight).

Didn't we borrow against the parachute payment to pay the bills, last season? 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Happy Fox said:

 

They probably would have been informed earlier this month re the 19th, and then subsequently yesterday informed them that they are changing the payment date.

Last communication was payment will be made on 19th. 
 

Only late yesterday afternoon it was confirmed there will be no payment on 19th and will now be after Xmas. 
 

Agree if this had been discussed in advance then there is time and understanding to manage, unfortunately this has not been the case. 

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I would genuinely hope the reason for this is because of financial restraints rather than any other reason. At least there's a genuine reason for it, even if its worrying. The thought that they are either that incompetent or care less about their hardworking employees is much worse in my opinion. Especially at this time of year with only several hours notice. 

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Posted (edited)

Surely a quick fix can be made like an apology and promise staff, payment will go through on Monday instead. Not sure why staff would need to wait till after Christmas despite confirmation of an early payment. Wouldn't blame the staff for downing tools.  Feel sorry for staff that have needed to buy christmas presents or shopping tomorrow, those plans could have been ruined.

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Its awful and a complete lack of respect for the staff.  You do not messaround with pay.....you just don't. They need to remember its these staff that run the club on a day to day basis...looking after the players, feeding everyone, manning the tills, selling tickets, social media, ground staff..........its disgusting. You do not do this.  It shows how little they respect and think of them.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

If this were the case here then why claim its to do with aligning payroll with the rest of the King Power Group? Be easier to admit the error (if that's it) and say that they will help support ANY staff who need their wages earlier. 

I agree, but the way they communicate nothing surprises me. This was just the first thing that came to my mind - it probably didn't happen. I just don't understand given how unhappy the fan base are with them why they'd do this on purpose knowing it would hit the media. Everyone is still going to be annoyed, but they'd be less annoyed with more notice.

 

But let's just say this did happen. Technically they could recall the BACS transfer and correct it - it would be possible. But it's highly irregular and not easy after the process has started. They'd have to pay fines/costs/admin fees to the different banks. Which they wouldn't want to do. So that could be why they wouldn't admit it. And I guarantee you if they made that offer to all staff, then almost everybody would claim financial hardship and ask for their money around xmas.

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