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20 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

 

Would love some unheard of manager from the other side of the globe to turn up unexpectedly, just got something interesting to happen as much as anything else, but Rudkin doesn't have that kind of imagination.

Hey now, I still want to believe he was seriously pushing for Preki

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Taz_The_Fox said:

Are we settling, or are we just that unattractive of a proposition at the moment, that it's literally the best we can get?

Regardless of the PSR stuff, I bet there's an absolute load of managers not based in England who would probably jump at the chance to manage us

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Posted
9 minutes ago, kingfox said:

Would O’Neil or Wilder even be considered if they weren’t Wasserman clients? I have my doubts. 
 

Look at O’Neil for example, some of the Championship jobs on offer this summer, Boro, Norwich, Bristol City, QPR. Any of those clubs could easily be viewed as an ideal next step for him, yet none of those clubs wanted him. 
 

There’s worse ownerships in English football, but in terms of unimaginative and lazy ownerships, we might be the leading candidate for that. 

It's all because they're Wasserman clients.

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Have no fear people, ive just taken on the job on Fifa, sat down with Top and Rudders, explained to them that I dont need to be fed any bulls*it, I know where the clubs at

Leave it with me 🤣

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Posted
48 minutes ago, Tielemans63 said:

Why are we settling for the 'best of a bad bunch' - that is totally the wrong attitude.


 

you can only hire those who want to be here…

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None of this makes any sense right now. I understand the club are incompetent. but to not have someone in place at this juncture when the only options are free agents just doesn’t compute. There simply has to be more to it than meets the eye. 
 

We wasted half our time last year waiting for potter, has the same really happened with Rohl? If we were willing to wait this long and sacrifice all the prep time, then surely we’d just pay 1m or whatever it is. in the grand scheme of things that will be less than any transfer outlays, even free transfers will have sign on fees at that level. 
 

I am going to go against my best judgement and assume that the club is going to get Rohl and that all of this noise is a game to get the Sheffield owner to reduce his demands 

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1 minute ago, Lambert09 said:

None of this makes any sense right now. I understand the club are incompetent. but to not have someone in place at this juncture when the only options are free agents just doesn’t compute. There simply has to be more to it than meets the eye. 
 

We wasted half our time last year waiting for potter, has the same really happened with Rohl? If we were willing to wait this long and sacrifice all the prep time, then surely we’d just pay 1m or whatever it is. in the grand scheme of things that will be less than any transfer outlays, even free transfers will have sign on fees at that level. 
 

I am going go against my best judgement and assume that the club is going to get Rohl and that all of this noise is a game to get the Sheffield owner to reduce his demands 

It doesn’t make any sense at all. Unless we so up the creek financially that we can’t afford to pay it. 

Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, Lesta Legend said:

It doesn’t make any sense at all. Unless we so up the creek financially that we can’t afford to pay it. 

If that was the case, we would have seen a fire sale already.  The fact none of our players have gone, goes against this. 
 

if we actually had a cash flow issue, we’d have seen someone like bilal go for 10 m or something daft. They won’t care about psr if actual financial issues hit 

 

The only other reason, could be that we thought we’d get him for 1m but the owner has gin back to demand for 4m and we don’t see the value in it. But I think everyone knows he’s leaving so we just have to wait it out until they crumble… which might be exactly what is happening.  The media release was requested by the club… that’s unusual considering the release was mostly maybe it’s this person or that. Seems like gamesmanship considering how close we keep the cards to our chest ordinarily: 

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4 minutes ago, Lesta Legend said:

It doesn’t make any sense at all. Unless we so up the creek financially that we can’t afford to pay it. 

Screams Mike Ashley's Newcastle when it was up for sale 

Posted
6 hours ago, Skidmark said:

GON - Mate called it months ago. 

 

One huge issue - he called out the owners about a lack of spending at Wolves and did this publicly. 

 

How much is he going to get to spend here? 

Your mate?

 

No idea.

Posted
7 minutes ago, Lesta Legend said:

It doesn’t make any sense at all. Unless we so up the creek financially that we can’t afford to pay it. 

 

5 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

If that was the case, we would have seen a fire sale already.  The fact none of our players have gone, goes against this. 
 

if we actually had a cash flow issue, we’d have seen someone like bilal go for 10 m or something daft. They won’t care about psr if actual financial issues hit 

 

The only other reason, could be that we thought we’d get him for 1m but the owner has gin back to demand for 4m and we don’t see the value in it. But I think everyone knows he’s leaving so we just have to wait it out until they crumble… which might be exactly what is happening.  The media release was requested by the club… that’s unusual considering the release was mostly maybe it’s this person or that. Seems like gamesmanship considering how close we keep the cards to our chest ordinarily: 

On the flip side and this is why I’d said against my best judgement… this might just be total arrogance. The club think we will go up whoever comes in  and there’s no rush as it’s all going to work out fine… that also wouldn’t surprise me with these buffoons 

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9 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

None of this makes any sense right now. I understand the club are incompetent. but to not have someone in place at this juncture when the only options are free agents just doesn’t compute. There simply has to be more to it than meets the eye. 
 

We wasted half our time last year waiting for potter, has the same really happened with Rohl? If we were willing to wait this long and sacrifice all the prep time, then surely we’d just pay 1m or whatever it is. in the grand scheme of things that will be less than any transfer outlays, even free transfers will have sign on fees at that level. 
 

I am going to go against my best judgement and assume that the club is going to get Rohl and that all of this noise is a game to get the Sheffield owner to reduce his demands 

Totally agree so maybe there is some truth in what Dorset said about a couple of options being looked into that haven’t been leaked to the media yet ? Perhaps one or both of them are still in a job ? 

Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

If that was the case, we would have seen a fire sale already.  The fact none of our players have gone, goes against this. 
 

if we actually had a cash flow issue, we’d have seen someone like bilal go for 10 m or something daft. They won’t care about psr if actual financial issues hit 

I agree. But it that backs up the notion that this makes no sense. I’ll be infuriated if we end up with O’Neil after all of this. To dither and end up worse off is what we’ve seen on repeat of the last half decade. Now at the point if they get this wrong then they’ll have completely fcked it, with years out of the top flight. So it has to be Rohl or this is just the board being their old usual incompetent selves, I’ve no faith it’s anything but the latter - I really hope it isn’t. 

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51 minutes ago, kingfox said:

Would O’Neil or Wilder even be considered if they weren’t Wasserman clients? I have my doubts. 

 

I dunno, I'd like to think we aren't actually fishing in the kind of pond where Wilder is a big fish but I don't know that he's the single worst candidate ever. Recent promotion from this division obviously isn't the worst cv ever. 

 

I'd like to say the answer to your question would be no but I can see us definitely interviewing Wilder regardless. 

 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Taz_The_Fox said:

Are we settling, or are we just that unattractive of a proposition at the moment, that it's literally the best we can get?

I’ve said it before but this only applies if you are trying to hire a name.

 

Well run clubs don’t hire names with experience. They hire people based on talent, potential, ideas, philosophy.
 

You know full well a German 2nd division manager, South American coach in their mid 30s or a Spanish assistant coach doesn’t think we are an unattractive proposition. Otherwise Wilder and O’Neill wouldn’t even be on the shortlist. They’re on the shortlist because we’ve not tried to hire the best manager, we’ve tried to hire the best known manager.

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I don’t want him but based on the shitty options we seem to have lasered in on, Wilder would be the most sensible option. He’s been promoted from this league, he got a cracking points tally last season and he shows some flexibility in tactics when needed. He’s a bit of an aggro knob but I’d be more than happy to see him fall out with our board and call them out for the incompetent twats they are. 

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Just now, Finnegan said:

 

I dunno, I'd like to think we aren't actually fishing in the kind of pond where Wilder is a big fish but I don't know that he's the single worst candidate ever. Recent promotion from this division obviously isn't the worst cv ever. 

 

I'd like to say the answer to your question would be no but I can see us definitely interviewing Wilder regardless. 

 

As @Ric Flair said on Saturday, it would be no surprise if certain managers from certain clients get linked, a day later Wilder gets linked, then O’Neil yesterday, it’s just very coincidental. 
 

As we know with the names mentioned, it’s clear as day that there’s no plan in place. We could still land Danny Rohl, but it’s also no surprise to see us potentially turn to the same client that we love to deal with. 
 

As for Wilder himself, there’s more strings to his bow than O’Neil imo, but if it ends up being one of them, it’s yet another unimaginative, lazy appointment. 

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